People commenting on Concept Champions

DucksAreMagical··4 votes·627 views

Is it just me, or do people not comment at all on Champion Concepts.

I've made around 3, 1 of which had 0 comments but around 100+ views, if it because the champion isnt good comment on why it is bad.

I just want people to comment on concepts because it takes time and effort to think of the champion of balance out the abilities.

10 Comments

Traxicus3 votes

Commenting constructively on a champion concept often takes a lot of time and effort to understand and analyze what the champion is and does. You can't expect any more than a tiny percent of people who see your concept to care enough to leave elaborate comments.

That said, I come on here from time to time just to be the one person who leaves a long, nice comment on ignored concepts. If you're bothered by the lack of constructive criticism too, you should be the one to give it to others.

KrugLyfe1 votes

People are lazy or they just don't like to comment because they're shy who knows.

DucksAreMagical1 votes

Also the board in general gets little love for the effort is put in by the creators

Onimarus1 votes

You shouldn't post with the expectation of comments. You put in the work, yes, but that doesn't mean people need to respond.

It'll be nice if they did, but you should also only be doing these concepts for fun and not so you could get popular for being the best concept out there.

DucksAreMagical1 votes

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You shouldn't post with the expectation of comments. You put in the work, yes, but that doesn't mean people need to respond.

It'll be nice if they did, but you should also only be doing these concepts for fun and not so you could get popular for being the best concept out there.

Im not asking to be the best conceptor, all im asking is for a response. even if it is something like 'bad, champ do better' its still a response and that drives me to do better for other people im not asking for a 4 paragraph essay on the champ I made. Just a comment would be nice now and then.

Onimarus1 votes

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Im not asking to be the best conceptor, all im asking is for a response. even if it is something like 'bad, champ do better' its still a response and that drives me to do better for other people im not asking for a 4 paragraph essay on the champ I made. Just a comment would be nice now and then.

Again, they're not obligated to post anything. If that really bugs you, maybe this place isn't the best to post your ideas.

gemini333

I don't see why people shouldn't expect comments on their work. This place is, first and foremost, a forum. A forum's goal is to socialize; specifically, in this case, about LoL. The type of content varies, but it should be expected that posts should get comments; to expect otherwise means that the forum as a whole, is pointless.

In the case of champion concepts however, I think the problem stems more from downvoting and the lack of communication between actual concept creators. In regards to the former, champion concepts seem to be consistently downvoted without adding meaningful discussion for why they are downvoted. This prevents any discourse from being held from what might be genuinely interesting ideas. Unfortunately, there's not much we can do about this problem, so we'll just have to take it as is. The latter problem may be that concept creation is very unique niche in the forum itself. As such, the audience to whom champion concepts might appeal to are largely comprised of other concept creators. These people are the bulk that both want feedback for their own concepts, and want to facilitate discussion about other concepts. If so, then such creators need to be more proactive in commenting on other people's work, in order to create a more unified community concerning LoL champ conceptualization. The audience isn't the people who simply come here and go out without commenting (possibly because champion creation isn't as interesting as other topics such as skin ideas, balancing issues, etc.), but other content creators who themselves have their own concepts. In which case, it might be better to encourage more commenting among champion concept creators rather than the general audience as a whole (I think one of these ideas in action is the CCOS monthly contest, which is pretty cool).

Anyway, this is just one weird long rant about this topic. I might be super wrong about my analysis though, so take it with a grain of salt.

Onimarus1 votes

{quoted} to expect otherwise means that the forum as a whole, is pointless.

This forum was, more or less, made as a containment board for these concepts. Does that make them automatically terrible? No. But it pretty much means this section is unimportant and, at best, is an out-of-the way fan spam dump.

Riot stated a few times that players have no clue what they're doing in regards to creating champions. I'm inclined to agree.

But I still create concepts because it's fun to think about "what ifs", and there has been a history of fan-made concepts being implemented and/or derived from. Just don't beg for attention, though. It looks unseemly and only makes people want to piss you off more.

gemini333

This forum was, more or less, made as a containment board for these concepts. Does that make them automatically terrible? No. But it pretty much means this section is unimportant and, at best, is an out-of-the way fan spam dump.

Just because the forum is made to contain these concepts, however terrible, doesn't mean that posters shouldn't expect comments. People like creating, but they also like discussing about what they create, which is why they post their ideas on this forum. This is why I focused the second half of my post on what might be other factors contributing to the problem rather than simply blaming it on people who don't comment. Facilitating an open discourse among champion concept creators who are interested in the subject is far better because it helps generate more constructive criticism than if disinterested people commented. Obviously, this requires a bit of compromise for both parties, but it solves the problem without needing to make a huge fuss about it.

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