Why isn't there an AD support, or any AD support items (Other than Zeke's Herald)?

Cławhauser·2/10/2015, 11:13:49 PM·3 votes·3,528 views

I've always wanted to know why this isn't a thing. A support champion with AD scaling would be interesting, and I can't think of a reason why it hasn't been done yet. Any thoughts?

28 Comments

Zazusha2/11/2015, 6:57:03 AM2 votes

Gangplank Ad/Bruiser Support. (my main support) item 3401 item 3025 item 3087 item 3068 item 3065item 3111 (situational: item 3110 /item 3050 /item 3190 )

also, Building icy/blue pirate can work as a build for gp support.

Xtremey2/10/2015, 11:21:52 PM2 votes

Urgot support op try it out. item build looks like item 3302 (you'll sell it later)

item 3025 item 3042 item 3071 item 3111 /item 3047 item 2045 item 3102

MrPerson102/10/2015, 11:18:38 PM2 votes

Leona Nidalee Poppy Sion Volibear

All perfectly viable, all have a decent AD scale.

DAT PYRO2/11/2015, 3:11:35 AM1 votes

this needs some attention for sure. if there was an ad sup item there would be more people trying out support with random champions and it would totally change the lane into a kill lane. making it way faster of a match or challenging to create more teamwork other then a farm lane with warding and the occasional gank. I hope to see an ad sup item in the near future :)

Cindikle2/11/2015, 3:14:07 AM1 votes

Because in most cases, if an AD support can make use of the item. Any other AD champion can.

If we make another support only gp/5 item, sure that can work. But what else will there be? Zeke's is so highly situational. Any buff to it could make a champion like Shyvana buy it. HP, ad, lifesteal(for her Q), 20% cdr and buffs her team. And she's the iffy one. Trundle, J4, Olaf. Hell imagine this being viable on Nasus.

BC can be used by an AD support. But it can be used by any AD.

Only way I can see it working is a new champion that gains the old Atam's bonus as a passive. Bonus HP->AD. But this bonus is reduced. With an ability in their kit that gives this bonus to their target. But this would be far too OP on an ADC. Imagine this guy starting the game with everything HP. Giving a Draven this buff at level 1. It would be toxic as hell. This could of course just be his ult. But how would the rest of their kit fit in without making him a viable AD caster in other lanes? They'd obviously be hard to balance for both. Lulu being a good example, as her AA does scale with AP.

Overall, abilities can be balanced around supporting. AA's cannot. Riot would have to get very creative to make it work.

Willbo2/11/2015, 4:31:22 AM1 votes

Ashe is listed as a secondary support. she's ad. scales AD. But she's also a marksman.

CursedByLight2/11/2015, 5:16:43 AM1 votes

Because they would need items with armor and damage, and we all know how much of a bad idea that is.

Ariaflux2/11/2015, 1:02:53 PM1 votes

Ashe secondary tag is Support... so...

ZhaoYhun2/11/2015, 2:38:42 PM1 votes

AD + AD vs Stacking armor/thorn mail AP + AD = /ff @ 20 in most cases. Consider AD if your top and mid or jungler are AP.

Pantheon is an AD support; Poke, stun, dmg, ult for global support, passive with tower dive-secure kill potential. Don't spam him or nerf threads will errupt. He's extremely oppressive.

AMYS GRAVE2/11/2015, 2:41:43 AM1 votes

Leona Shen Sion Thresh TwistedFate

Although most have been poached from another lane, i think thresh is probably the closest. we could use another AD support though.

ClutchCrux2/11/2015, 2:55:59 AM1 votes

because people would take said champion top or jungle then build bruiser.