Problems I Have With "Cyborg" Yasuo

Nocturnes··42 votes·4,736 views

Let me preface by saying that I've been waiting for this skin since Yasuo's release: a Minuano-esque, cyborg-type skin. While I of course realize that the skin was just put on the PBE and is thus likely to change, my initial impression was quite poor and I was greatly disappointed. While just my opinion, here are my thoughts:

  • Someone really likes their squares, but the effects comes off as senseless and a little silly. I mean, if Yasuo was wielding a square mallet or something along those lines then I could see it (Full Metal Poppy anyone?), but he's using a katana. Instead, it'd be much more fitting if "blade waves" (terrible wording I know) came off of his abilities to better fit with his weapon.

  • The colour scheme irks me. I was expecting something along the lines of Kha'Zix's evolved carapace, a black/red scheme that would contrast the blue/white scheme his base skin has, but the grey/orange/navy blue scheme he's got going on now just clashes a bit too much for me. The white hair is a keeper though...

  • Liam O'Brien has an amazing voice; putting it through a pseudo-digital filter ruins the impact the original lines had and while it worked with the voice of Kha'Zix, I don't believe the same can be said here.

  • The Wind Wall is... boring. In the original skin it had dynamism, the wind curving and flowing as if it was peeling off of a curved surface. The "digital" wall on the other hand just sits there. It'd be nice if it had some kind of "digital noise" effect to give it a bit more impact than just this orange board floating in the air.

  • The simple yellowing of his sword (and hilt) after Last Breath to indicate the armour penetration effect is boring as well as after all, he's a cyborg now! Make his eyes glow a fierce red, have his armour split apart and pulse and come to life, make his blade vibrate and course with energy; make him look powerful!

  • I'm sorry, but the visor needs to be a toggle. Nothing would be more cool than to approach the enemy team with the visor up and then slide it down as you prepare for impending dance of death...

Just my two cents though, and with the utmost respect to those who designed the skin.


Reposting this from General Discussion simply because it fits better here...

33 Comments

bbbbates10 votes

I agree with the windwall stuff, and the toggle stuff... and bascially everything else you said too. This skin could be one of the coolest 1350 or 1820 skins out there.

The problem is that it looks like it will probably be a 950 skin so its gonna be closer to just new clothes and such.Since the community has been asking for more 950 skins then that means sacrificing some of the really cool ideas that could go into interesting skin ideas like this.

Again, I really like all those ideas, and I really like the whole future tech samurai feel of the skin. Dont know why riot hates me saving money...

Sukishoo1 votes

"950"? That's not even a skin tier.

bbbbates1 votes

sorry 975. my bad

InvalidGuest1 votes

it's confirmed to be a 1350 skin

bbbbates1 votes

Oh... then i improvement is definitely preferable

Serpents Embrace4 votes

Very true about the voice. I understand why they'd want to use a filter because of the skin line but it didn't turn out well.

CamoClad4 votes

The "toggle" idea is a cool one and I believe that the general public responded much in the same way about this idea with the Headhunter Caitlyn skin and her helmet's visor. Almost overwhelmingly it was suggested and or requested that her visor be a toggle, but as of yet I have heard no update from Riot or those on the PBE as to if this was accomplished. Both Headhunter Caitlyn and Full Metal Yasuo would be all the better with the toggled function, but I dont know if Riot has any plans or interest in realizing the fans requests for such a thing. Fingers crossed that both are given the feature.

DaIek Caan3 votes

I'm not sure how easy this would be: Couldn't they link it to his sheathing animation? When he attacks his visor goes down/blade comes out. When out of combat his blade is sheathed and the visor comes up. I think that would be even cooler than a manual toggle. They have done it before! They could do it again!

Eapenator1 votes

I think the biggest issue with the visor toggle is not that it is not impossible to implement, but it devalues the uniqueness on the skin it is presently on (VI's Neon Strike). I think they want to save it to make it extra special on certain skins. (Heimerdingers walk is the other toggable feature in the game).

As for the quality of the skin, I am simply going to buy because he looks like Raiden from MGS :), who is bad ass.

Nocturnes1 votes

To correct, Night Hunter Rengar can also toggle whether or not his hood is up or down.

Eapenator1 votes

That is also true, well maybe uniqueness isn't 100% the issue in this case. Speaking of that, there is still hope that a helmet toggle can be added into the skin, because the hood toggle was not in the first iteration of the skin on PBE, and was added after people requested it.

Also, before they implemented the toggle on rengars hood, it was only on his recall animation, so they could definitely already use the visor opening animations (albeit some changes) to make it. The dream is still alive

JGkillya4 votes

Sorry but I highly disagree and I love when people complain about skins :) the skin is awesome believe me people are gonna buy the crap out of it.

TwinkletoesKat1 votes

Of course they will. I mean, I think Riot Kayle looks disgusting (besides her wings), yet people will buy it anyways. Oh well, at least now I can get Riot Blitzcrank.

DaIek Caan2 votes

I also feel like some of the yasuo lines don't really fit for a cyborg. Thats part of why the filter seems so off. They should have O'brian come back and make some new ones! omergerd.

Nocturnes2 votes

This is true as well. "Face the wind!" doesn't really mean much when you're putting up an orange block of energy instead...

iRetribution2 votes

The skin was JUST put onto PBE, and in the Reign of Gaming News post about him they said he was missing some particles. They put the skin on PBE because it is still a beta skin, not what will be released. When Atlantean Syndra came out they changed everything about the skin before it was released

Nocturnes5 votes

Exactly. The fact that it was just released is exactly why I made this thread. Is it not much better to critique something that's being worked on than something that's about to be released and is effectively "finished"?

Dragon Fang Shot1 votes

I agree with the wind wall for sure. It doesn't do much visually, plus it's hard to see if you blocked something by just looking at the wall.

On a funner note, big yes to the glowing eyes and toggle visor :D

Mesyrn1 votes

While all of these ideas do sound awesome, I'll give you that. It has to be able to run smoothly and, unless it is the ultimate skin, that is a lot of time and resources put into one skin. I'd love to see some of these ideas implemented though!

Falchion1 votes

I think the wind wall looks fine, it fits the mecha style that they've been deploying. The square particles that are used when Yasuo uses Q is underwhelming, I agree that he should have slashes (sort of like Fruit Ninja?). It's still a really good looking skin regardless, and if a Riot Designer is looking at this, kudos to you for an awesome idea and I just wonder exactly where you drew inspiration from.

Eapenator1 votes

I don't think it was intended to fit the mecha skins, which I think are more inclined towards monstrous automatons (which yasuo is not, though a giant cyborg samurai would scare me shitless just them same). Maybe more Head hunter (nidalee) or special ops (gangplank)?

Poppin Boppin1 votes

I love the visor idea. One of the main reasons why I use neon Vi . flips down visor "GET DUNKED!"

Krizalid1 votes

The only thing I would like to be changed is particle's color. To be red, not orange. But I really adore this skin. I also agree about visor being on/off by pressing ctrl+2 or something.

IAmNeverViable1 votes

pls roit! This is good constructive criticism. Very helpful feedback. As for the wind wall, It should have blinking blocks of orange hextagon as wind wall duration.

DaIek Caan1 votes

perhaps they could add something to the windwall so it pulses or ripples when struck with a projectile, that would be awesome

but all in all I'm withBbbates, I'd quote him but I'm sorta new to forum posting and dont know how. Its gonna be 950 and those are 1350 concepts at the very least. I agree though, I think this is one skin whose potential should be saved for a higher quality pricepoint but I think BBBates called it. It wont be.

Lee Sın Bot1 votes

It just doesn't look that great, honestly i like the idea, but i would rather have the skin concept on Commando Yasuo would be even better!

UnBR33vuhble1 votes

Problems I have with Yasuo: Hyper-carry melee ADC (Sound like anyone else? cough YI! cough) Has free CC Via Q (Jarvan IV on steroids) also has a wall (Braum) also has an escape-dash Has a bull-shit double-crit-chance passive That ult... So many problems with that ult. If you couldn't target airborne champs already, it'd be okay and unique. In stead, it auto-aims the person(s) your team is currently CCing to death anyway. Not only that, but he can CAUSE the CC in the first place. Get this broken passive out and make a choice between having EITHER CC OR a wall. He doesn't need both FFS.

Das Trigon1 votes

besides aesthetics from the skin, while playing it, ive noticed a delay when casting moves. to make sure this wasnt my computer, i ran different champions on the same map; and no issues there.

personally; i have no quarrels with the look of the skin, gives me a more "modern" Tron vibe [though i was looking forward to it being more of a MGS feel]. GRANTED. the skin just came out and it's bound to go through some changes [HeadHunter Cait anyone?]

The All Tomato1 votes

Perhaps, instead of a toggle, the mask could come on or off in relation to his sword sheaths.

Macko1 votes

I honestly like the default skin much more

BootySlapp

I think you should change the title to something more appealing like "Cyborg ops Yasuo feedback thread" just my opinion to make it more friendly towards riot and the community

Anyways, i also agree with the statements you made in your original post, i really liked point number 5, that would make the skin really shine and make it like really powerful after the ultimate.

I would also add that i don't find the particles very much appealing to the skin, for me it would be much better to have lightning in his ult and his other spells, it would also add a feel to it, Yasuo its a really fast champion and adding lightning effects would make it more matchable to this skin and overall to the champion.

I'm really hyped for this skin, and i am more than welcome to contribute in any feedback that Riot needs to make it outstanding.

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