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[Champion Concept] Narian Koh, the Facewalker

THE RlVER KlNG··20 votes·2,823 views

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##Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUNOfNad59Q&list=RDdUNOfNad59Q&index=1

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#OVERVIEW

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Name: Narian Koh Gender: Male (assumed) Race: Unknown Allegiance: Unknown Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Class: Skirmisher Role: Top, Jungle

A legendary cutthroat with hundreds of documented kills, the enigmatic figure known only as Narian Koh has taken on many identities throughout his uncannily long lifespan. A mysterious and charsimatic purveyor of the beauty of masks, Narian Koh sees the world and those who inhabit it as an elaborate dance that only he understands fully, and punishes those who fail to keep up with a fan of razor-sharp knives and a spray of blood. The black markets and shady underbellies of Runeterra have learned to fear not only their enemies but also their friends, unwilling to risk Narian Koh's knife in their back should he turn out to be their allies' murderer. The victims of the Facewalker's blades find their indentities stolen by the mysterious assassin after death, for a face can only be fully and perfectly captured in a mask at the moment of their demise, when the twilight of life is at its most pure. In-game, Narian Koh is a crafty and opportunistic melee fighter who blends his form into that of his surroundings, and hunts down enemy targets under the guise of their allies.

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#STATISTICS

|Stat-------------------------------|Value at Levels 1-18| |- |Health:| 573 - 2103 |Health Regen:| 8.51 - 21.3 |Focus:| 400 |Focus Regen:| 50 |Attack Damage:| 61 - 120.5 |Attack Speed:| 0.679 - 1.01 |Armor:| 27 - 88.2 |Magic Resistance:| 32.1 - 53.4 |Attack Range:| 125 | |Movement Speed:| 340 |

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#ABILITIES

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#INNATE: He Who Walks Unseen

Narian Koh is a crafty soul, and can merge his form with that of his surroundings. While out of combat, Narian Koh may right click terrain to channel over 2.75 / 2.5 / 2.25 / 2 / 1.75 / 1.5 seconds, based on level, before becoming a flat, 2D image of himself on that segment of terrain, hiding his health and resource bar in the process. Narian Koh retains the ability to move along the face of the terrain so long as it continues, and can curve around corners and edges if need be. In this form, Narian Koh is only visible to enemies if they have vision of the side of terrain he currently inhabits.

Narian Koh cannot utilize basic attacks or cast spells, and is effectively disarmed, grounded, and silenced so long as he remains fused with terrain. Narian Koh can take damage from abilities and basic attacks, but cannot be targeted by point-and-click abilities or affected by crowd control. Narian Koh also cannot receive any other effects from champion sources, including friendly heals or shields. Narian Koh will die as normal if he loses all his health while in this state. Narian Koh additionally gains 25 / 35 / 45 / 55 / 65 / 75% bonus movement speed while fused with terrain. He can exit the terrain at any time by holding the right click for 1 second, emerging 75 units in front of the segment of terrain, prioritizing close to his cursor's location.

Narian Koh will retain a Mask's disguise of any champion he had before entering a segment of terrain, and the 2D image that appears on terrain will correspond accordingly to the champion whose form he inhabits.

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#Q: Sleight of Hand

ACTIVE: Narian Koh flings a fast, narrow dagger in a line, dealing an initial 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 ( +90% bonus AD) physical damage to the first target struck. The dagger will remain embedded in the target for up to 4.5 seconds, granting sight of them for the duration.

Narian Koh's next basic attack against the target will rip the dagger out, dealing an additional 6 / 7.5 / 9 / 10.5 / 12% ( +3% per 100 bonus AD) of the target’s maximum health (capped at 250 / 300 / 350 / 400 / 450 versus minions and monsters) as bonus physical damage, slowing them by 70% for 0.5 second, and restoring 50 Focus. Half of this damage is dealt initially and half as a bleed over 2 seconds. Minions and monsters take an additional 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 bonus magic damage.

Range: 1050 Projectile Speed: 1600 Cooldown: 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 seconds Cost: 130 / 120 / 110 / 100 / 90 Focus

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#W: Deception

ACTIVE: Narian Koh turns an enemy's weapon against them, gaining a spell shield for 1.5 seconds. If he successfully blocks a spell, then he can reactivate this ability within 1.5 seconds to blink behind the champion from whom the spell originated. Narian Koh's next basic attack within 5 seconds will deal bonus damage equal to 25 / 35 / 45 / 55 / 65% of the damage the spell would have done, dealing either bonus physical or magical damage based on the type of damage of the spell blocked. This basic attack is treated as a critical strike.

Range: 800 (blink) Cooldown: 22 / 20 / 18 / 16 / 14 seconds Cost: 75 / 85 / 95 / 105 / 115 Focus

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#E: Dance of Masks

ACTIVE: Narian Koh surrounds himself with a ring of masks, gaining 25 / 30 / 35 / 40 / 45% bonus movement speed that ramps up over 2.5 seconds. During this time, the masks revolve and expand. After this time has expired, the masks turn inward, causing all enemies within the ring to take 70 / 105 / 150 / 195 / 240 ( +70% AP) magic damage and become charmed towards Narian Koh for 1.25 seconds.

Casting this ability will only break a Mask's disguise if it affects an enemy champion.

Range: 125 (initial) | 425 (maximum) Cooldown: 15 / 14 / 13 / 12 / 11 seconds Cost: 50 Focus

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#R: Facewalker

PASSIVE: Upon scoring a takedown on an enemy champion, Narian Koh crafts a Mask of them and stores it in a separate inventory above his HUD bar. This inventory is hidden while** Narian Koh** is in combat with an enemy champion. Narian Koh can additionally inspect the corpses of enemy and allied champions (in the case of the former, this includes those he has not necessarily slain) for 1.5 seconds to craft a Mask of them as well. Upon being crafted, Masks are acquired permanently and cannot be lost in any way.

ACTIVE: Narian Koh equips the selected Mask, taking on the appearance of its respective champion (including their skin, bounty crest, and any other visual indicators) indefinitely. For the duration, Narian Koh's base movement speed will change to that of the champion whom he is impersonating, as well as their item bar, however, this effect is purely aesthetic and does not actually affect Narian Koh's stats. Allies will see Narian Koh as the champion he is impersonating, but still see his icon on the minimap and his health bar as blue to denote an ally.

Narian Koh does not gain any of the abilities or attributes of the champion he is impersonating, and casting a spell or initiating combat with an enemy champion will end the disguise, putting that Mask on a separate 120 / 100 / 80 second cooldown. Enemies can damage and affect Narian Koh as normal, even if he is disguised as one, but allies cannot.

  • "Narian Koh has many faces. Perhaps he will show a few of them to you."

Cooldown: 25 / 20 / 15 seconds Cost: 150 / 100 / 50 Focus

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#LANING AND SKIRMISHING

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#TEAMFIGHTS AND LATEGAME

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#LORE

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#QUOTES

Narian Koh refers to himself in the third person and speaks with an accent, akin to Syrio Forel from Game of Thrones (spoiler warning).

##Upon selection:

  • Ah, so you have come to Narian Koh at last.

##Upon being banned:

  • Who is to say that Narian Koh does not simply come in through back door, eh?

##Upon game start:

  • Narian Koh is happy to be amongst.....friends.
  • What a lovely coterie of fools!
  • So many new faces to add to Narian Koh's collection!

##Movement:

  • Narian Koh enjoys the feel of the breeze on his mask.
  • This is a strange place, no?
  • Narian Koh rolls very nicely off the tongue.
  • Narian Koh is stranger to all.
  • This is a good day for killing.
  • This is a good day for dancing.
  • Narian Koh's first profession was a traveling salesman, you know.
  • Narian Koh's knives grow impatient.
  • Narian Koh's masks yearn to be worn.
  • Narian Koh is an enigma.
  • Narian Koh is the broken string on a aged fiddle.
  • Narian Koh is the bloodstain on a shard of stained glass.
  • Narian Koh is the water that puts out a dancing flame.
  • Narian Koh is the storm that sinks a beautiful wooden ship.
  • Narian Koh is the flag that still flutters long after the battle is done.
  • Narian Koh is the knife in your father's throat.
  • Who are you, to judge a master at his craft?
  • This is but one mask, of many.
  • Let us go, and find new adventures.
  • Narian Koh takes things as they come.
  • There are faces everywhere, if only one cares to look.
  • Every rock, every blade of grass, has a story.
  • Narian Koh only wishes he could see his own reflection.
  • They cannot run if they do not see Narian Koh coming.
  • Let us simply skip along, and enjoy life's trivial moments.
  • Narian Koh will find them.
  • Do not worry.
  • Narian Koh has many masks.
  • Narian Koh lives his life on the knife's edge.
  • There are many faces that Narian Koh still yearns to see.
  • Narian Koh will make short work of them.
  • Narian Koh is the best at what he does.
  • There is no price too high for Narian Koh.
  • All men wear masks. Narian Koh just makes it more easy to tell.
  • This world is in need of a new face.
  • Which of these ten are friends, and which are enemies, Narian Koh wonders.

##Movement (while on terrain):

  • Ooh-hoo, that tickles.
  • That feels good on the back.
  • Narian Koh calls many planes his home.
  • This form is but a mask of Narian Koh's true self.
  • Narian Koh likes this method of movement
  • Narian Koh quite likes this.
  • Many titles have been given to Narian Koh. Facewalker is his favorite.
  • They will not see Narian Koh coming.
  • It is beautiful work of art, no?
  • Narian Koh knows many tricks. This is but one of a collection.
  • Even Narian Koh's feet grow tired sometimes.
  • Narian Koh misses his friends.
  • This is a queer plane of existence.
  • Even now, they wonder where Narian Koh has gotten to.
  • The shadows suit Narian Koh, but then again, so does the daylight.
  • Does this make Narian Koh's masks look fat?
  • Narian Koh feels like work of origami.
  • Narian Koh was already beautiful work of art before.

##Attacking:

  • Are you a knife, or a mask, friend?
  • Narian Koh will put a knife right....there.
  • See this knife? You and it will soon be much closer acquainted.
  • Narian Koh can see the fear in your eyes....
  • Do not worry. Narian Koh is a gentle killer.
  • Narian Koh always cleans up his messes.
  • You will make a nice mask for Narian Koh to wear.
  • Narian Koh will take good care of you.
  • You are a fool to stay this long.
  • Narian Koh laughs at his enemies and dances with his friends.
  • This is a beautiful dance we share.
  • Who is Narian Koh, to judge your ineptitude?
  • Narian Koh will eviscerate you, but look good doing it.
  • You called?
  • Narian Koh has a special knife just for you.
  • When you die, do not weep at the beauty of it.
  • Narian Koh does not take kindly to poor dance partners.
  • Is that a knife in your chest, or are you just happy to see Narian Koh?
  • Narian Koh does not dance with cowards.
  • Narian Koh will craft you a new face.
  • Narian Koh is the best at what he does.
  • This knife hungers.
  • Narian Koh fears no man, or woman.
  • Your true face....is this it?
  • Knife, sword, bow, wand...these things make no difference to Narian Koh.
  • Narian Koh is saving a special knife, just for you.
  • Narian Koh keeps his mercy in a little jar, but he never opens it.

##Upon death:

  • Never worry. Narian Koh will return.
  • Run along, children. Narian Koh is resting.
  • An unexpected respite, but Narian Koh is not picky.
  • It seems you were the better dancer.....for now.
  • Ah, so that's how it will be then, eh?

##Upon casting Recall:

  • It is time once again, to take up inventory of Narian Koh's many masks.
  • Narian Koh has more important things to do.
  • Do not worry, friend. Narian Koh will be back shortly.

##Upon casting Sleight of Hand:

  • Here, take this knife. It suits you.
  • A knife to the throat is a lot more fun than it sounds.
  • Narian Koh has a surprise for you....
  • Take this knife, so that Narian Koh may take your mask.

##Upon ripping a knife out:

  • Narian Koh will be taking this back now, thank you.
  • Ah ah ah.....this one belongs to Narian Koh.
  • Narian Koh is impartial to his knives.
  • Now how does that feel?

##Upon blinking to an enemy champion with Deception:

  • Surprise, friend.....
  • As they say it, boo!
  • Not so clever now, are you?

##Upon casting Dance of Masks:

  • Ah, hello my friends!
  • It is always good to share a dance with your friends.

##Upon detonating Dance of Masks:

  • Come to Narian Koh.
  • Dance with Narian Koh.
  • The masks have beckoned you.

##Upon equipping a Mask:

  • Ah, this new face suits Narian Koh nicely.
  • Narian Koh could get used to this.
  • Narian Koh wonders if this is his true face.
  • Is this the their true face?
  • Ah, this mask is Narian Koh's new favorite.
  • Narian Koh quite likes this one.
  • Narian Koh will try this one on in front of a mirror later.
  • Narian Koh does not think he has worn this one before.....

##Joke:

  • Man feels down, and goes to see doctor. Doctor asks him what is wrong, man responds: "The whole world seems a frightening and cruel place. I no longer want to live in it." Doctor says: "Ah, that is easy. The great entertainer Narian Koh is in town today. You should go and see him. That will cheer you up." The man bursts into tears and replies: "But doctor, I am Narian Koh."

##Dance: Narian Koh holds one of his masks out as his dance partner and performs a waltz with it, humming the Waltz of the Flowers as he does so.

##Laugh: Narian Koh wraps his arms around himself and chuckles.

##Taunt:

  • Fool you once, shame on Narian Koh. Fool you twice, shame on you. Fool you thrice.....well, then you'd just be stupid.
  • If life is like bowl of soup, then you are like a fork.
  • Narian Koh laughs when he sees your face.
  • Do not meddle in the affairs of Narian Koh, for he is clever and good with a knife.
  • Narian Koh will send you home in many different pieces.

##Upon killing an enemy Ahri Ahri:

  • Ah, such beauty. A great shame to see it spoiled.
  • Narian Koh will enjoy wearing your mask, darling.
  • Narian Koh can be quite charming as well.

##Upon killing an enemy Amumu Amumu:

  • You have died as lonely as you lived, child.
  • Narian Koh regrets the killing of one so tormented.

##Upon killing an enemy AurelionSol Aurelion Sol:

  • So does this mean Narian Koh is a dragonslayer?
  • Ever since he was little boy, Narian Koh has wanted to be a dragon.

##Upon killing an enemy Bard Bard:

  • Narian Koh sees that you have already crafted a mask for him to take. Thank you kindly.
  • What is your true face behind that mask?

##Upon killing an enemy Camille Camille:

  • Your enhancements did not save you from Narian Koh.
  • You are as elegant in death as you were in life.
  • You were an entertaining dance partner, Narian Koh will give you that.

##Upon killing an enemy Chogath Cho"Gath:

  • What a large and frightening beast you were. Your mask will be truly terrifying.

##Upon killing an enemy Darius Darius:

  • Well, you know what they say about men with big axes....
  • It seems to Narian Koh that you were overcompensating just a little.

##Upon killing an enemy Diana Diana:

  • The moon is a shallow and faithless patron, girl.
  • Narian Koh prefers you when you wear a mask.

##Upon killing an enemy Ekko Ekko:

  • Time is a mask like any other, child.
  • Your mask is one that is not easily perceived.

##Upon killing an enemy Fizz Fizz:

  • You were an agile dancer, but you lacked resolve.

##Upon killing an enemy Illaoi Illaoi:

  • You had strength, but you wasted it on your paltry god.
  • You would have made a fantastic dance partner.
  • Those tentacles ruin the appeal, darling.

##Upon killing an enemy Jax Jax:

  • If only, indeed.
  • What is it that you hide under that hood, Jax?
  • Your mask will be a strange one.

##Upon killing an enemy Jhin Jhin:

  • Narian Koh sees that you have already crafted a mask for him to take. Thank you kindly.
  • Narian Koh acknowledges a fellow lover of masks.
  • Narian Koh admires your flair, but you were still sloppy.
  • Narian Koh will perfect your mask.

##Upon killing an enemy Kassadin Kassadin:

  • Narian Koh sees that you have already crafted a mask for him to take. Thank you kindly.

##Upon killing an enemy Kayle Kayle:

  • It took more work than it was worth, but, Narian Koh does not complain.
  • Narian Koh wonders what is beneath that helmet.

##Upon killing an enemy Kindred Kindred:

  • Ah, two masks, for Narian Koh? You are too kind.
  • Narian Koh wonders why you still pursue him even in death.
  • Your masks are of exquisite design, even Narian Koh must admit.

##Upon killing an enemy Kled Kled:

  • Does this mean Narian Koh must make two masks?
  • What a curiously meager creature you are. Narian Koh is not talking about the lizard, you know.

##Upon killing an enemy Leblanc LeBlanc:

  • Ah, Deceiver, it seems Narian Koh has caught up to you.
  • You hide behind too many different faces, darling.
  • Narian Koh is the greater of this pair, LeBlanc.
  • Narian Koh will not be outdone.

##Upon killing an enemy MasterYi Master Yi:

  • This is no true mask, but Narian Koh can work with it.

##Upon killing an enemy Mordekaiser Mordekaiser or Nautilus Nautilus:

  • Agh, your whole body is covered in an ugly metal mask.
  • How could you stand such a burden?

##Upon killing an enemy Nunu Nunu:

  • Does this mean Narian Koh must make two masks?

##Upon killing an enemy Pantheon Pantheon:

  • The dance of war is long now past.
  • Your helmet is a grisly and ugly thing.

##Upon killing an enemy Sejuani Sejuani:

  • Does this mean Narian Koh must make two masks?

##Upon killing an enemy Shaco Shaco:

  • Narian Koh sees that you have already crafted a mask for him to take. Thank you kindly.
  • Ah, jester, you were a fine dance partner.
  • You and Narian Koh are not so different, eh?

##Upon killing an enemy Shen Shen:

  • Narian Koh sees that you have already crafted a mask for him to take. Thank you kindly.
  • The balance between light and dark is an ever-shifting one, Ionian.
  • For all your talk of balance, you were a poor dancer.

##Upon killing an enemy TahmKench Tahm Kench:

  • What a repulsive and imbalanced dancer you made.
  • Narian Koh does not relish ever wearing your mask, creature.
  • Narian Koh does like that hat, however.

##Upon killing an enemy Viktor Viktor:

  • Hide behind your trappings of metal and machinery all you want, but you are still a man.
  • Narian Koh sees through your disguise.

##Upon killing an enemy Vladimir Vladimir:

  • Look at what you've done. Now Narian Koh has blood all over his masks.
  • Your dance is a strange and unsettling one.

##Upon killing an enemy Zed Zed:

  • The shadows did not save you, ninja.
  • You hide behind more masks than this one, Ionian.
  • This is but one of many masks you hide behind.

##Upon killing an enemy Zilean Zilean:

  • Time is a mask like any other.

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#CHANGELOG

##V1.0 - 3/5/17 Posted

36 Comments

fugertech3 votes

Getting angry at people will not help you sell your case. I just figured I'd mention something at the beginning of my comment, but this'll be the only time I say anything about it. I'm not here to patronize or insult. I'm here to review.

That aside I think it's time to get right into it. I need no introduction (to you, at least), and my disclaimer remains the same throughout all of my posts.

Humor will be used. I will be an asshole sometimes.

And that's the disclaimer :^D

Narian Koh, the Facewalker

##Lore

This is a good lore, and I like it, but I'll level with you here. I'm sick of seeing serial killer esq. champions. I myself made one similar to that (Hush, if you remember him) when I had that strange mania to make a serial killer, but now I'm done with them. They're too similar to Jhin and his view of things.

But don't take that for anything. I do think this is a good lore that highlights Narian's personality and infamy, especially his mask mania. I'm just personally done with serial killers until something new gets brought to the table.

##Kit

[Passive] - He Who Walks Unseen: Well this passive certainly brings a new mechanic to the game. The ability to merge with terrain? That hasn't been done before, as far as I'm aware of. It just doesn't seem...fair, I suppose, from a gameplay standpoint. Sure, we have the obvious negatives: He's grounded and silenced while he's in terrain and he has to channel to get in and out of it but...he gains movement speed whilst in terrain and would become very difficult to see on many of the pieces of terrain on the map. But I can see what you were going for here. It's interesting, but it doesn't offer much in terms of counterplay besides "Look really closely at terrain and hope that he's not hiding from you."

I do like the comedy of basically being Spy from TF2, though. This would've earned you like an extra point or 2 had I been judging ^-^

[Q] - Sleight of Hand: Not much to say here. It's good poke/trading throughout many stages of the game. I've never been fond of large maximum health percentage damage (Kled), but I'll reluctantly admit that it's a useful mechanic in any decent amount

If you could explain the thought process behind the extra minion damage, however, I'd much appreciate it.

[W] - Deception: This ability is good for Narian (who I'm going to call an assassin because Skirmisher doesn't sound as good with this kit), giving him the power to negate someone's heavy damage or hard CC ability if timed correctly. It also grants him extra damage (always good on assassins) and a useful blink so that he can better mask-sassinate his targets. No complaints from me!

[E] - Waltz- I mean, Dance of Masks: Having looked at the rest of his kit, I'm fine with this dealing magic damage since you're going to be dealing AD the rest of the time. Building hybrid on Narian isn't even that good since he's going to need lots of 1-shot potential as opposed to good CC/AOE damage. This flows well with the rest of his kit and would be interesting to use, albeit rather annoying to play against. Would you enjoy having a ham-man run you down with an AOE charm?

[R] - Facewalker: This is by far the coolest ultimate I've seen in the game. Hands down. Novelty is 20/10 in my book.

Maybe that has something to do with me being a Spy main. Maybe not.

My only suggestion? The passive is too overloaded with what Narian can do with acquiring masks, in my opinion. Grabbing the masks from a takedown or assist is fine; he'll be doing a lot of killing. But added to that, he can grab them from dead bodies? It needs to be one or the other since he permanently stores masks. As for his allies' masks, how about he gets their masks if they participate in a kill he gets or vice versa? That way you need to be doing something post-6 to actually grab the masks, and you aren't just getting them from your 0/5 Yasuo Jungle (the bait with that mask would be legendary, though).

As a side note, you should watch someone play Skinwalker or play the game for yourself. I'm not sure how easily you scare, but I've always thought it was a rather creepy game.

#Final Notes

Narian Koh is an interesting character. What with his speaking in the third person, throwing knives at people, stealing their identities, and becoming a 0/25 Yasuo Jungle, he's one of the more unique champions I've seen. He definitely has my upvote and my blessing.

Wishing you the best of luck in all your life endeavors, and as always, wishing you Stay Frosty. -Fugertech

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Just gonna say this real quick.

The Concepts and Creations Board is plagued by a couple of people who will downvote all the threads in the first page or so.

So I shot you an upvote to counter.

Friendly Ram2 votes

Hey link i think you're drunk. but on a serious note really neat concept. Passive has quite a bit of downsides for the power it provides so all and all neat. Q: damage seems high and length of vision is the longest that i know of. W: Really funny and unique. E: movespeed with cc attached seems strong. R: seems kinda weak for an ulti but really thematic.

THE RlVER KlNG2 votes

Done with this community

When this finally claws its way to +1 because of honest members of the community more haters drag it back down to negative

If you are too lazy to read and invest in how much time I put in my concepts then leave without touching the vote counter

midnight oil247 votes

Well I think that just because you put work into something doesn't mean that you automatically deserve upvotes.

In addition, by spewing insults you make yourself look bad. People won't listen to someone who just gets angry.

Also, you're getting mad at people who downvote your work, when you insult other people's work that they put a lot of work into. You need to get rid of your double standards.

THE RlVER KlNG2 votes

Oh what, as opposed to stuff that shows zero effort whatsoever and/or is consistently bad? I in the very least deserve feedback as to what's wrong, which is not what is happening here. People mindlessly click dislike without even reading or explaining why. When you have stuff like Vyrda which is resoundedly criticized and hailed as toxic and uncreative get 15 upvotes in a day, then you know this community is fucked up.

Please. I spend days working on each of my champions. If you're talking about yourself, then you are sorely mistaken: your champions are one-dimensional, unoriginal, and have little to no thematic cohestion, to be blunt. I can say that same for half of the content on this sub-board. If I criticize a champion, I in the very least have the balls to do so. You are grossly exaggerating something you have no right to even talk about. I rarely if ever downvote a concept, even if it is bad.

midnight oil244 votes

Actually, I wasn't referring to my concepts there.

Second, you really need to fix your ego. You're kind of a jackass to most people, and while people should certainly be giving you feedback, you can't throw a hissy fit whenever anyone dares to do anything negative. And I still put a lot of work in on my champs.

Back to the main topic: You can't just say who has the right to talk about something, you shouldn't be just insulting people, and you need to show some intelligence. I also give criticisms where I find problems with champ concepts. Does that mean that I have the "balls" to do so? Stop treating yourself like a god and learn some manners. No one will like you if you behave like a 3 year old.

THE RlVER KlNG2 votes

Hyperbole strikes once again, in the seemingly never-ending circlejerk against me......

People expect me to treat them like children and coddle them with reviews. I tell them what is wrong with their champion and how they can fix it. In the very least I expect the same in return every now and then, but ever since Gabriel it seems like people just downvote my concepts just because. I have zero objection whatsoever to people downvoting me or writing reviews that are harsh, but it strikes a nerve when my concept goes to -2 in half an hour after posting with nary a response as to why. Meanwhile, a heavily criticized concept from Skylarke gets to +10 in an hour (four or five times now) and the sheep on these boards don't even care to question it.

Narian Koh is an odd design, to be sure, but far from broken or unfair. If you feel the need to downvote it, tell me why so that we may have open discourse about the topic. I post my champions to foster discussion about the new concepts (phylactery, summons, masks, portals, etc.) that I have worked hard to come up with and elaborate upon. Thematic identities are arguably leagues more important than lore or gameplay - make a pirate necromancer if you want but have it makes sense. Make it cohesive to the world of Runeterra. Don't churn out a generic kit and a cutesty picture and treat it as the same caliber as concepts such as mine or Bobo or fugertech.

It's not ego: I put a lot of work into my champions. That is a fucking fact. They are well-designed, if simply from a thematic point of view since I cannot vouch for hypothetical in-game balance. Show intelligence? What is that even supposed to mean? I don't treat myself like a god and I don't expect others to do so for me. I expect a little respect after the work I put in to not only post in this subforum but also to enrich it. How many CCOS's have you judged? How many have you won? The only people who have done more for this community than me is Echoing and a few other older champion creators like Candurill and Raxistaicho.

The CaC boards should be a merit system, but as of now it is a breeding ground for people who abhor change and cannot take a review - the same people who refuse to write them for actual content creators and mindlessly downvote the names of people they don't like.

midnight oil244 votes

But see, you didn't give a review of, say, Nero (at least not what I saw), you just got mad about how you got downvoted and that one got upvoted (to be fair, there was little effort put into nero). You could have given constructive criticism with Maut, but instead got mad about numbers and said that I shouldn't be allowed to post until I know how to scale correctly, but didn't give any tips on how to do so. Instead you threw the wiki at me and said that that's my guide to scaling.

You say you don't care about downvotes, but then you say you care about them if they come too quickly. That's... you just contradicted yourself.

Many people would be happy to respect you, but you can't just go around acting like this. You aren't being mature, you're being mean to people. I put a lot of work in on Maut, several months worth in fact, but you don't treat that with respect.

And I only started doing CCOS's recently. Don't act like just because you win CCOS's and judge them you're free from consequence. The way you're acting is rude, and if you act the way you do and think you should be getting upvotes just for putting work in, you don't deserve respect.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

Yah bring up the champion you supported me in criticizing and expressed the same sentiment over. Maut was legitimately badly designed and had bizarre numbers, a broken stun, and a 20% HP AoE nuke from level one. He didn't have much cohesion at all and stepped on Maokai's toes a LOT. Are you complaining that I reviewed your champion?

Once again, you fail to read what I wrote. If you give a review, then its fine. Downvotes shouldn't even exist on this forum because they especially push down anything that gets them, since there are so few net posts of value, and it is absurdly easy to shove something out of hot with only 2-3 downvotes while 1-0 vote posts with no concepts waste space. This is a place of learning and creativity and a concept shouldn't be robbed of a spotlight because someone was butthurt over who made it.

Mean? I said you need to learn how to work on numbers. Would you prefer I tell you Maut is perfect and deserves to be in the game despite a total lack of most of what makes a champion desirable?

You think that low-effort stock concepts are in the same tier as something that displays an enormous amount of work and craft and refuse to see why it is unfair to have the former be placed higher than the latter. You haven't done any CCOS's.....at all......so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you are acknowledging your lack of expertise then don't come on here acting like a know-it-all white knight.

midnight oil245 votes

Well I mean, I think that you need to be a bit less rude overall. I'm not saying you should tell everyone their champ is perfect, just you don't need to phrase things so rudely.

I've changed a lot on Maut, he now has to build his nuke (which is now not great early game but builds late game), removed the stun from his ult, and am working on stuff for his E.

Let's see how you phrased things.

Please refer to how champion abilities work and scale before you post, it really ticks me off when I see champions with screwed up numbers, trash bases, etc. "I'm not good at numbers" isn't an excuse when you have a literal archive of champion numbers right here: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Legends_Wiki

Listen, I'll admit you made good points. But you said that my post made you angry. because of numbers. Numbers that you gave no tips on how to fix, you just said that I shouldn't be allowed to post until I can do it better.

Also, I have been in a CCOS. I'm not going to tell you who I entered, because then you'd go over there and gripe about numbers there too, but I have been in one. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

I don't think that mine are on your tier, but I also don't think that that gives you free reign to be rude..

THE RlVER KlNG2 votes

I don't have anything against champions such as yours of others. I just wish people could start to have a little respect for what I do with my champions and invest some time into giving me some honest reviews. It strikes a nerve when inane crap gets to the top of the board when it is resoundedly criticized but good concepts with deep themes and new ideas never get to see the light of day. I am not the only poster who suffers from this, and I will not be the last.

This community has treated me like crap for the last few months and I am sick of it.

midnight oil242 votes

But see, there's one thing getting in the way of your desire for more respect: many people, I'm sure, would love to review your champs. Hell, I'd be more than willing to give Narian a review, he's an interesting champ. But I, along with likely many others, are scared that you'll completely disregard our thoughts because of how you've been acting.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

That's kind of ironic considering I'm one of the few consistent posters who actually listens to advice and changes my concepts, despite that often being uniquely more difficult for me because of my usual method of formatting. I've changed Soz'rath and Ebero and Viatus loads of times throughout my CCOS career, and most of the time because of the feedback I received.

midnight oil243 votes

I mean, you say I know nothing and that I shouldn't be allowed to post. Who wouldn't be afraid of someone like that disregarding their opinions?

I mean, do you want feedback from me? Will you be rude in your response? Will you tell me to learn game design if I make a genuine attempt to help? Think about how your general behavior can cause people to ask themselves these questions.

That being said, do you want me to give a review of Narian?

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

I said you lacked experience and would do well to go on a hiatus to learn, easy on the exaggeration.

I am hostile to those who think their designs are above criticism. I am not such a person. Please, I would greatly appreciate one.

midnight oil243 votes

Okay, so I do have to give you credit: there's not a lot to talk about. This is a pretty well put together champion. That being said, nothing is perfect. Let the judging begin!

First off, lore. I gotta give this an A-. Overall, it's a fantastic lore. It plays up the mysterious quality of him, but also his deadly mastery of disguises. Only thing to say here is to split it in two if you want to submit to CCOS (that's a new rule)

On to the abilities!

The passive is really interesting, but could use some nerfs. Yes, he can die, but only if he gets hit by skill shots and the like. Not to mention that he basically gets to move around unseen (you could say the same of Eve, but control wards and getting too close reveal her), and while he has to get off the wall, there's no cooldown. Only thing I can really suggest is adding a cooldown so that he's not as hard to kill until he decides to enter combat.

Q is great. I got no problems here, it's an interesting move that fits thematically.

W also works fine. No problems there.

E is a bit trickier. While it's certainly an interesting ability, it still punishes melee champs and allows him to waveclear without dropping his disguise, which isn't super great.

R. R is an interesting ability, but it could use some tweaks. If he's disguised, does he show up on the enemy team's minimap? If he doesn't, all the enemy team needs to do to counter his big power is take a gander at the minimap whenever they see an ally.

Overall, Narian Koh is an interesting champ, who just needs a few tweaks to be amazing.

FloRaider422 votes

It's really weird that fleshed out concepts like yours get downvoted when others get upvoted for seemingly no reason, but I think you are overreacting lately (insults and getting mad won't get you upvotes). Have an upvote to get this to +1.

Edit: And it's 0 again

ModEchoing4 votes

Holy cow.

See this comment chain?

This is why it's so hard to upvote you - every slight, perceived or otherwise, is taken as an act of war. Midnight Oil24 is right, by the way - the nicer you are to other people, the more likely they'll return the favor. I'd highly recommend an apology - treat everyone like you'd want to be treated.

The core kit is actually pretty handy - very assassin-y, with lots of burst and a spell shield. Gives him a unique niche where he excels against high-burst targets like other assassins since he can throw some of that damage back in their face. Primary counterplay concerns involve his really, really powerful burst if he lands his Q - at rank 5, he's tearing off HUGE amounts of health since not only does the max health damage scale with AD, it's still an autoattack and still does AA damage. That's actually about it though - his real issue is that since his ult does zero damage and is 100% reliant on deception, it's entirely possible to shut him down once you learn how he plays, since the Q is the primary damage source and his spellshield won't work if you don't fling a spell back at him or bait it out. He's probably more underpowered than anything else, really, owing to the ultimate being of no help.

Swapping out the ult for literally anything that does damage would smooth things out considerably and give him the punch he needs to end a fight if his autoattacks aren't good enough. With his W and E, he's notably good against other assassins, so you might want to consider thinking along those lines. The max health scaling on the Q is...really unusual - that's effective against tanky targets, which assassins don't normally prioritize. Your intended prey doesn't have enough health to appreciate the boost there. You might want to drop that for just flat damage.

Keep up the good work.

Also, that's Faceless from Prime World. I know because I was like "I need this guy" when I started playing. I never got him since I lost interest before I had the funds to buy him.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

No what I love is going from +3 to 1

and having all my comments downvoted for no reason

that really makes me feel happy and warm inside

and yes now that you say it, it does remind me of Faceless that is funny. Thank you for the review.

midnight oil242 votes

Well actually, what people were downvoting for was because, again, you did phrase things a little rudely. Just work on making your attitude a bit better and people will flock you you like moths to a flame.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

I have zero clue as to how any of that was rude except for saying your champions were unoriginal.

midnight oil242 votes

I was referring to more along this comment line, where you treat many like they're less intelligent than you, or act better than them.

Also, Maut was original, I think. No more original than an assassin that makes masks based on those he kills.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

He was a Maokai ripoff with no new effects

Narian Koh brings two wholly unique (masks and terrain fusion) effects as well as three others ('rip' effect, AoE charm, and damage enhancement based on a spell shield).

midnight oil241 votes

I was thinking more along the lines of concept-wise, not skill-wise. Also "was". That implies that he's no longer a maokai ripoff. Also, I've never actually played maokai or looked at his kit.

And the terrain fusion is a pretty hard to balance effect. First, how does that fit with the concept of masks? He's supernatural or magical, but he basically gets the entire non-combat section of the game to not have to worry about basic attacks? All he has to do is get in a wall and render ADC's worthless against him. Not super fun to play against.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

The art is of a cursed tree thing: Maokai. I don't have much of a story going besides he wanders around and drags peoples souls into the abyss.

Yah, except he can still be targeted by auto-attacks, it literally says it there explicitly.

Please stop beating the dead horse, Maut is not very well designed in his current iteration.

midnight oil241 votes

The art is not of a tree thing. The art is of a weird eldritch horror.

Well then how about some actual constructive criticism instead of getting mad whenever anyone downvotes you and not actually giving reasons for why you dislike them besides "numbers." It's not that I want you to say he's amazing, I just want you to give actual suggestions.

Papa Andrei1 votes

As an assassin/Skirmisher type character he really just does not have a lot of reliable damage. Though if he is low Health and blocks a Vei ult, he can deal alot. Guessing his main strat is to Q, block a spell, tp behind them and aa then?

Other than that everything looks pretty decent, fair and without much issue.

Sidenote: how does one do all the fancy boxes and everything? XD

TakeAGuessNerd1 votes

I gotta say, I like this. Funny enough, me and my friend came up with a champ concept that could disguise themselves... what are the odds? I'll just drop in some comments about the abilities

Passive: Haven't really understand it, but from what I get, he disguises as a terrain and go invis, he can't use attack and spells. Cannot be hit by point and click, but skillshot is ok, and no heal from allies. Overall, I think this is a good passive, because unlike Evelynn who's invis 24/7, Narian Koh has limited invisibility. At the cost of allies can't help him, he has bonus surprise factor. Quite good if you ask me.

Q: Quite a simple skill, and an effective one, While on it's own it's an ok skill, when combined with his W, it's a good skill. I would suggest maybe tweaking the damage and keeping the same 4.5 duration of the dagger, but maybe reducing the vision.

W: So a sivir shield that allows you to blink right? Quite good and unique.

E: Needs a bit tweaking imo. I mean the speed is ok, and Im fine with it doing damage, but with a hard CC? I suggest to change it into a slow.

R: Deceptively weak ult. I can just imagine Narian Koh disguising as the enemy jgl and pretending to gank top lane to help the enemy, but then turns around and kill the enemy. Sure it takes a simple look at the minimap, but it's still a surprise nonetheless.

Overall, a good champion concept.

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Concept is cool, please god not another assassin.

Khadaver1 votes

I love the concept but his ult seems near useless, if the enemy has a brain they can just look at the map. It would be pretty decent if it stole stats and abilities.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

it changes his map icon

Khadaver1 votes

They could easily communicate and see 2 of their teammate on the map though

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