What Type of Old Lady Champion Do We Want?

Tasgal·8/16/2015, 3:53:45 PM·25 votes·12,284 views

Creating this thread because in this thread: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/vgnG3WYN-petition-to-have-an-old-lady-champion Meddler said that Old Lady in itself was not enough justification for a character.

So Boards, what kind of Old Lady do we want?

My personal vote is for a voodoo queen type. We have nothing like it in the game. Since champs with special items are a thing now, she could have her doll as an item and bind it to someone a la Kalista (though probably not permanently) to toy with them. She could sacrifice minions (or if she gets the last hit on someone, champions) for rituals (abilities). She could do simple hexes on people. Hell, for entertainment value her autoattack could be shrunken heads.

The types brought up in the other thread are: Mage/Shapeshifter. Example: Flemeth from Dragon Age. http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110219195420/dragonage/images/6/6b/Flemeth03.png

Traditional Hag. Example: Baba Yaga, stereotypical witch hag, etc. (Voodoo Queen is a kind of variation of this, imo.) http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/pawnstarsthegame/images/b/b5/Hag_Cronenberg.png/revision/latest?cb=20111214221636

Warlord. Example: I actually don't have one off hand. Maybe because warlord is usually depicted as a short lived position gained through combat? Not sure. If you have one I can edit it in to here.

109 Comments

Shénzhì8/16/2015, 7:23:28 PM12 votes

Voodoo lady of some sort. Not so old, is black and knows many of Runeterra's magical ailments, hexes and visages, and how to alleviate and cure them. Gameplay-wise, I'd imagine her being a Support class.

http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/4667433_f520.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5323/9176778642_30c2039e9c_m.jpg

She'd understand curses and hexes like it's her first language but does not practice them. She may also be homed in the Kumungo Jungle with her tribe, and so we can assume lenience towards nature and animal kingdoms (e.g Rengar, Zyra, others). LoL's tribes seem to be around Mount Targon somewhere so who knows.. She'd be of neutral alignment whose knowledge and skills may attract those who seek her aid. Ryze may want to learn what she knows for his own quest for knowledge .. but I get the feeling she will be disappointed for his reasons for visiting and conflicting ideas (Ryze misuse magic; old voodoo lady does not).

What Soraka is and her purpose may easily be shared with this old voodoo lady .. but this voodoo lady may not be on any pursuits.

Zilean's ailment, his chrono-displasia magical disease, may be important for him to find this old voodoo lady. Maybe she can help him! This would be a more loving and caring interaction between two characters. This specific story may be very interesting. :)

She may be intrigued by other magics particularly that of which Karma practices. The discipline of Karma wouldn't be the same as this old voodoo lady's but they understand when to not misuse magic. It could be that Karma 'sought an old lady's guidance who lives in the jungle' after the battle from Noxus against Ionia. Karma's magical disciplines were breached during this battle so she may have needed to ..err.. find enlightenment from her recent troubles and knew exactly who could consult her best (because who else can do what old voodoo lady can do?).

How can she know so much? She'd have learned from all travelers who sought old lady's great grandmother, and all that was learned has been recorded and passed through generations in her tribe to this old voodoo lady. Zilean may also have traveled his mind across time and brought back stories of future and past events. All this knowledge of events and magics unknowing of how to practice them would instead be translated to more of a story-telling fascination for immersion and escapism in a jungle world where there's nothing much to stimulate their imaginations without travelers.

What her magic is may actually be the ancient mysteries of Gems incorporated in her adverse abilities. Imagine grinding herbs and minerals with a mortar and pastel. Most of the time she just says the right thing for people but other cases may need those Gems. I suppose Taric and Gragas would pay a visit, too. With this in-mind she has some tolerance for Gem magic as it probably cannot be misused (unless Taric can prove her wrong).

Many other champions who believe in this old voodoo lady may also have sought her consultation. Can you think of who else?

Nidalee's shitty background could be updated with a visual update, too. A black Nidalee could be of this same tribe as this old voodoo lady's tribe. It could be that she sought the old voodoo lady on how she is able to polymorph.


This character has so many connections it could update many champion's backgrounds with it in one scoop.

Garlyle Wilds8/17/2015, 4:19:16 AM9 votes

I think the character I'd like to see is someone who was a hero of her age. Someone who fought long and hard in her younger days, whatever her career - healer, soldier, whatever. She rose up the ranks, she sits as a well respected authority now, etc. etc. ; but she's getting old. She knows it. Yet the world keeps calling on her, time and time again, even as it continues to demand and take from her personal life, her country (maybe even the whole of Runeterra, really), needs her to continue doing her thing.

Someone who is unafraid to fight, but simultaneously weary of battle. Someone who does what's necessary for the greater good, but no longer because she wants to. Someone who's ready to make sacrifice, but is so tired of having to do so. Someone who's ready to pass the world onto the next generation, but it just won't leave her hands.

On a conceptual level, I think that's what I'd most like to see when I just think of 'age' as a part of someone's character, within the bounds of Runeterra, is just what the world might demand of someone like that.

Ironclad Dragon8/16/2015, 3:54:55 PM5 votes

Just want a character who's actually feeling the effects of their age.

RiotRiot Galetta8/17/2015, 11:42:52 PM5 votes

I just want the biker granny's from Mad Max to be in our game, they were so badass! :3

Blainezy8/16/2015, 6:39:57 PM4 votes

I would say some sort of Gypsy/Fortune Teller type person, although that sounds like a type of champion that would be support based and I'm tired of support champions at the moment. Haha.

I also like the idea of a witch. I said that I feel like Zyra is sort of a witch/necromancer because of the ability to make her plants really "live".

However, a champion that is some sort of deity or "ghost" that actually speaks and makes their age known could be a fun idea, although I don't know what kind of abilities they would have. Very spectral like :)

EDIT: But I do LOOOOVVEE the idea of a voodoo witchdoctor kind of thing. they can do lots of fun things! I think that would be an amazing time champion to add to the game. But feels like it would be a bunch of DoT type abilities..Plagues, etc.

SpecterVonBaren8/17/2015, 4:54:14 AM3 votes

For me, this is what I imagine for an old lady in LoL.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/darkcloud/images/d/df/GreatSageCrest.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090521185541

P.S. Props if you know what game she's from.

Doctor Dyment8/17/2015, 4:38:49 AM3 votes

Hm, okay got it: Old black voodoo woman who once lived in the Kumungo Jungles, and knows many herbal recipes that can heal, and just a bit of magic. That's what everyone thinks she knows anyway. A master healer who knows how to fix nearly any injury. Nothing to fear, just an old woman who knows a bit of magic. But what everyone doesn't realize, is that this woman is older than all of them. She even rivals Lissandra herself for age over the rest of Valoran. Inside, she is the most powerful mage in all of Runeterra. She laughs at the likes of Syndra and Xerath who believe themselves to be the epitome powerful magics. Through the use of her ancient healing spells, she has kept herself alive for thousands of years. And yet, she is not evil. She is rather, more like Bard. A neutral character who knows right from wrong, and helps only when deemed necessary. I don't know, I think this would be a good idea.

Blade of Justic8/16/2015, 8:31:44 PM2 votes

Why it gotta be magic?

Why can't she just be ready to jump right at the enemy like these "Cougars with a Bone to Pick"?

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=163397&d=1422937063

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UfTROGEbL._SX342_.jpg

Scryer8/17/2015, 5:41:30 AM2 votes

I really feel like this obsession over having an old lady champion is fucking dumb, how about we obsess about having a fun champion with a balanced kit.

Traxicus8/17/2015, 6:24:41 PM2 votes

I had a concept for a formal, refined lady of Noxus with a nasty side. Kikyo Zoldyck of HxH was a big design inspiration.

I don't have the specifics with me, but she was based around the idea of unearthing and exploiting secrets/gossip about nearby champions, where she'd add stacks to nearby champs both ambiently and on ability/autoattack hits, and after four or five she'd proc a fear.

encyclopedea8/18/2015, 12:53:52 AM2 votes

Posted something similar to the below concept in the old thread, but how about a different approach, building off current champion/lore? (TLDR at the bottom)

_ The hole-riddled cuirass hits the ground with a muffled thump. "Here. Now give me what you promised." A softly glowing figure gets up off a rock, a hook and lantern in his hands. "Your service is appreciated... Lucian." A green aura surrounds the lantern, and the air is filled with the shrieks of the damned. "Free us!" "He tortures us!" "It hurts!" Lucian raises his guns. "Enough with the theatrics. You promised to free her." "Oh, free her I shall," Thresh laughs. He lifts the lantern and a single soul escapes, arcing high into the air before slamming into the ground, raising a wall of dust. Immediately Lucian leaps forward- not at the figure lying on the ground inside the dust, but at Thresh. He fires twice, but Thresh, laughing, raises a wall of congealed souls between them. Unable to pursue Thresh, Lucian turns to his wife, and gasps. What lays before him is no longer the young woman he knew, but an aged crone, struggling to raise herself to her feet. He rushes to help her up, but she waves him off and begins walking slowly towards the wall that Thresh left behind. Upon reaching it, she places a hand upon it and whispers "Be free." The wall evaporates, and she turns to Lucian, a steely look upon her face. "We have work to do." Lucian smiles. She may not be the Senna he once recognized, but she was still the Senna he loved._

TLDR Senna gets released from Thresh's lantern, but she's really old now and has weird soul-powers from sitting in Thresh's Box of souls for too long.

Count Buffon8/18/2015, 5:22:15 AM2 votes

If we can have half a dozen seductresses, then we can have half a dozen women over 40. I don't agree with the premise of this post as stated.

ExecutorDill8/18/2015, 3:17:04 PM2 votes

Martial Artist Old Lady like Genkai from Yu Yu Hakusho:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FF8wzQV5u_0

She could even use flow as her resource bar like Yasuo.

SexySoapTurtle8/17/2015, 1:49:57 AM2 votes

Lets make sure she's super ugly and old so we don't offend any women.

Weesiwel8/18/2015, 12:12:58 AM2 votes

I want a young champion who has sacrificed her youth for some reason. I don't want any of the stereotypes really I want a champion who has given up her youth and potentially more (maybe a limb or something) but is somebody who can be on the front lines and do well. Obviously she didn't just sacrifice her youth for no reason so maybe it was to a god or some sort of monster that was going to get something in return. In addition I had a thought that maybe she does have some sayings like "My mother used to say ..." which is more traditional old lady.

Polaritie8/18/2015, 12:33:51 AM2 votes

Hmm, could a voodoo champion have a way to mark her target... and then her autoattacks can hit the doll to hurt them from something like 1200+ range?

Sorgklaan8/21/2015, 12:17:13 AM1 votes

traditional hag for sure

lambchops98/20/2015, 11:06:01 PM1 votes

Maybe a champion who initially seems sweet and kind (grandmotherly) but is actually a sorceress that became immensely powerful in old age? Her ult or perhaps a form shift would reveal her true nature (which could be manipulative, evil, etc), and create interesting dialogue (reminding herself to bake cookies in one form, absorbing somebody's essence or scaring the bejeezus out of you in the other).

I imagine a Syndra-type figure who got wise early and hid her power in order to blend in and conduct her training in secret.

Chortle8/18/2015, 2:44:22 PM1 votes

We need a traditional witch or hag champion imo

Voodoo/witch doctor is another trope that could work well

But I want a cauldron bubbling, curse casting, luring children into her candy house witch status champion

supermuffin288/18/2015, 3:11:11 PM1 votes

Support "grandma" champion. I mean, come on. What tender loving care a grandma gives. Ability to bake to cookies and deserts that buff allies. So knowledgeable yet unpredictable at the same time.