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Toxic reworks: Fizz The tidal trickster

lowrankhero··4 votes·1,563 views

Is he op is he not?i don't know and that is not why i am here to day i am here because Fizz is not fun to lane against. Him being able to dive you under tower is something that when he does feels unfair,him dodging any and all skills feels unfair . I'm not saying he is unfair i'm saying he is unfair feeling he feels toxic and his style of play supports toxicity(when was the last time you met a frequent fizz player that wasn't childish and whiny because i seriously can't remember if i have) so here are some ideas to make fizz feel less for lack of a better term Teemoie

Passive:nimble fighter:fizz can no longer pass through units and takes full AA damage,but if he damages a unit he can momentarily run through units and is given a speed boost. Explanation:nimble fighter is a really really boring passive and with this it makes his passive matter more,also it adds to his on foot chase potential.

Q:Urchin strike:now has a minimum range before he can fly at someone. Explanation: this skill is one half of what makes him annoying.Why? because being able to tower dive someone at lvl 3 with as much ease as fizz has is annoying and no one likes it.This will make it so his dives are much more risky (since he will have to go farther into turret range to use it)and make dueling him less annoying

W: Seastone trident:total ability overhaul

New W:Trident toss: passive:fizz naturally does DotT damage when he auto attacks active:fizz throws his trident at an enemy for (massive) damage and a dot,but he also becomes silenced while his spear is away from him he can either walk up to it and pick it up again or he can reactivate w to immediately fly at the spear and grab it,however if he does the his DoT will be gone until w is off cooldown again Explanation:skills that do nothing but enhance auto attack damage with no form of;charge up,cc,unique effect,and/or aoe are not skills

E:nothing change still the same E

E:if a targeted shot(Ex: Annies Q) is flying at fizz before he is able to trickster it will still hit him,but at reduced damage

R:when it is off cooldown a small fish will swim around fizz Explanation:It would look cool

I tried to change up fizzs skillset as much as possible while still making it feel like fizz,and while his q was nerfed he is now better at chasing and poking(but not significantly so).

please tell me what you think

17 Comments

Ovari2 votes

Your ideas are aimed at destroying fizz's strenghts without any reason. If you are frustrated playing vs him, just use your ban. For example i always ban zed, because i hate zed.

lowrankhero1 votes

Oh no i don't go mid(never get to)so i encounter fizz very rarely,but when the i do it is annoying to play against him.You can,but you can also play against Teemo it is just very annoying and that is the point here.When playing league neither side should feel annoyed when playing against a champion they should feel challenged.

Ovari1 votes

As far as i understand, you use "annoying" instead of "i die to it/i can not play vs it". There are too many "annoying" champions in league for your statement to be correct.

lowrankhero1 votes

As i said before i don't encounter fizz often.also i dont want him changed because of his kill potential(zed has more kill potential and can juke even harder late game and i'm fine with the way he is) but i want fizz changed because his play style is a mix between pantheon and teemo,the pantheon part is fine but the teemo part isn't. His slipperiness and kill potential at such a low skill ceiling makes him annoying when you die to a (not fed) zed you go"shit that zed out played me" but when you die to a (not fed) fizz you go"GOD FUCKING DAMNIT THAT STUPID Q E COMBO AND DOT" you don't feel good when you play against a fizz is what im trying to say here also when you kill a (fed) zed you feel a certain reward to it like "yeah i just fucking did that" when you kill a (fed) fizz you don't feel victorious you feel "and another bucket drop fucking whatever he'll be up soon anyway fuck you fizz."(actual quotes me and my friends have made while playing against either champion)

Ovari1 votes

Okay, illuminati confirmed, riot captured by aliens, fizz is evil. The only part i cannot catch is why on earth fizz is teemo-panteon hybrid. Thats ridiculous.

lowrankhero1 votes

Teemo DoT and slippery,pantheon tower diver with good engage

Ovari1 votes

Yes, you are right. I finally got it, you are totally correct in your every statement. I suggest playing dota2 as a sign of protes untill riot fixes fizz. Let riot know how much they disappointed you, and that you are not going to forgive.

lowrankhero1 votes

sarcasm never helps.

Malix Farwin1 votes

Oh no i don't go mid(never get to)so i encounter fizz very rarely,but when the i do it is annoying to play against him.You can,but you can also play against Teemo it is just very annoying and that is the point here.When playing league neither side should feel annoyed when playing against a champion they should feel challenged.

Every champion in this game has a set of champions that are annoying for them to go against (Especially Fizz). If you are playing league with this self perceived notion that this will never happen if they somehow rework fizz you a kidding yourself.

lowrankhero1 votes

i'm not saying every single match up should be fair,but at least most of them should not be hair tearingly annoying(like say fizz).Some champions have a hard time against TF,but if you die to him you don't feel like its because of an annoying mechanic(dash invincibility under tower) you feel like its because of his play style(long range poke) fizz for the most part shouldn't piss people off when playing against him because that is toxic.

Leblancs Boob2 votes

Take power away from he Q+E and add power to his ult. That's really all he needs. He should have to land his ult to assassinate his target not shoot it in the wrong direction and 2 shot your target anyway with Q>E. It would also make his pre-6 more manageable.

SoapySeahorse1 votes

I don't think adding a third dash is the answer if you feel he's too slippery right now... I do like the way you made the ability. He throws the trident and then he can't use his other abilities because they require the trident. The redash is necessary though because otherwise Fizz will only use it when he is already next to the trident.

The passive change could help...

It's hard to fix him while keeping his flavor. He's supposed to be a slippery fish so the player playing Fizz should feel rewarded for being immune to a lot of skill shots and stuff. They heavily nerfed his damage to compensate and I think that reduced his OP potential, but he can still feel very annoying. How do you stop him from killing a squishy if you can't target him?

Malix Farwin1 votes

Ziggs is not fun to lane against, Xerath is not fun to lane against, zed is not fun to lane against, thresh and blitzcrank are not fun to lane against, morgana is not fun to lane against. The list goes on....

lowrankhero1 votes

then why not change them so they are fun to lane against?

XLC1 votes

Because fun to lane against probably means getting a kill every time they spawn because their nerfed to below-urgot levels. The game doesn't work that way. Deal.

lowrankhero1 votes

always winning is also boring,fun means being challenged once in awhile its fun to face roll but not always.

Ovari1 votes

Urgot is terribly underrated. You'll be surprised to death when you see one. I mean, IF you see one:)

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