SummonersLab, Part 6: Wits End

Lord Desert·12/8/2016, 9:04:31 PM·4 votes·982 views

Welcome back folks, we are now taking a closer look at Wits End and possibly getting it back in the inventorys! http://imgur.com/7peBzwA

Currently those are the topics and their (hopefully) release date: SummonersLab, The Introduction Here SummonersLab, Part 1: An additional Crit Item Here SummonersLab, Part 2: Crit Algorithm Improvement Here SummonersLab, Part 3: Tower Changes Here SummonersLab, Part 4: Ohmwrecker Here SummonersLab, Part 5: Support Role Improvement(1) Here SummonersLab, Part 6: Wits End Here SummonersLab, Part 7: Smite Buffs Here SummonersLab, Part 8: Plants Here SummonersLab, Part 9: ** Support Role Improvement (2)** _ Here _ SummonersLab, Part 10: ** General Improvements (1)** Here _ SummonersLab, Part 11: ** General Improvements (2)**_ Here

Ill put links to the posts here, so you can easily view all of them.


Introduction:

This one will be way more open and we will look at a wider range of possible changes then with the Ohmwrecker! But we will still leave at it around its current idea/place, we will not make an 180° turn and make it an Ap item or so. If you want to go to the Ideas directly scroll down till you see this:



Ok, lets get startet!


#1. Analysing Wits End

Wits stats are:

  • 2500g cost
  • 40% As
  • 40 Mr
  • 40 OnHitMagicDmg
  • Passiv: 5 Mr steal (25 max) for 5sec onhit.

And now hold your horses! Costefficency: 108% without the passiv, and full 164% with maxed passiv stacks! ON TOP:_ OnHitDmg_ is valued lower then normal AD, but if you dont have any AD ratios we can value it as if it would be AD! So that boosts us to full 180% Costefficency! Why are you still reading? BUY IT NOW!

Oh, and did you think that was all? Nope! You can technicaly reduce the Mr from 5 guys! not just 1! So the finally max possible Costefficency is: Are you ready? Sitting straight? having something to grab on? Here it is: #329%!!!

Yes, this is not a joke, not a hoax! it is possible to get 329% costefficency! Getting all 5 stacks on 5 targets (which will requieres atleast a runans! And this is extremely unlikely but possible) And this counts the MrReduction as MagicPen, but magic reduction technicly more powerful since it can reduce the Mr below 0. As we see the stats and especially the costefficency is relativly decent, bit on the weak side but decent :P So why does nobody buys it?


#2. The Problem

Since we now know that this item is technicly a monster in terms of efficency, lets see if its usefull!

AS: AS is one of, if not the worst Solo Offensive Stat that an item could possibly offer! You ether need to have already high amounts of AD/Crit or other onhits. Making it interesting as a 1st-2nd buy only for OnHit Users. And AA-reliant Champs already have fantasic Items: item 3115, item 3085, item 3153, item 3124, item 3078, item 1416, and other item 3086 items. So an overcap of AS is likely possible!

MR: Next up the MR. MR is technicly weaker then Ar since towers, minions and monster only deal physical dmg! (except baron). But also everybody has MR alternatives already, all of them with excellent itembuilds. Lets list all rivals: item 3156, item 3814, item 3139, item 3065, item 3102, item 3512, item 3026, item 3060, item 3190, item 3001, item 3111 Specialy those subitems: item 3211, item 3155, item 3140 are extremely powerfull! Those items fullfill close to everything you could wish for: Vs Burst, Dive, Vs CC, Sustain, CC, Splitpush/Lanepressure, vs Assasins, Splitpush, Teamshield, Ap vs Ap, Anti CC. So only focusing on giving MR will not cut it. Some HP or Ar would help alot!

OnHit and MR Steal: OnHit dmg is never wrong, it is, of course, not as strong as flat ad/ap, but since everybody has the ability to AA it is not awefull and sometimes helps to bypass weak ad/ap scalings!

MR Steal is also not terrible since its basicly better MagicPen, but with the stacking mechanic it needs time before its fully applied. So Burst or abilitys with long cds that are used to engage/set up more dmg will not benefit at all from the potential pen. MagicExecutes on the otherhand will more likely benefit from this.

It can be stacked on multiply targets( but you will only get +25Mr max.) and it beeing a debuff, gives your teammates the oppertunity to deal more dmg, which is quiet usefull! But first you need to apply those stacks! A hurricane helps alot in this regard! The Magic OnHit and the MR Steal passiv synergyses very well.

Now lets bring it all together:

Wits End is usefull on AA-reliant Champs that have alot of/high sustained MagicDmg or an MagicExecute. Futhermore they should NOT find other MR Items that appealing (so having no/low Ad scalings, no sustain, ranged makes Wits End more appealing). Extra magic Onhit effects/making use of Onhits are welcome too.

That leaves use with: Teemo, Kayle, Jax, KogMaw and also, but a bit weaker, Mordekaiser, Shen, Warwick, Varus, TahmKench, Shyvana, DrMundo, Udyr.


Teemo, KogMaw and Varus are quiet squishy and there is no Ar/Hp item from them. So getting the full Pen before they get blown up can be tricky. This requiers good positioning which is a skill that needs to be learned first, and Varus likes ArPen more then MRPen.

Mordekaiser needs mobility/utility first and only Mr and no HP/Ar hurts a bit.

Shen, TahmKench, DrMundo scale far to good with HP to buy an item only with a bit of Mr and no HP! Mundo and Tahm will also build Spirit too!

Kayle, Jax, Warwick, Udyr, Shyvana Those 5 are the best user of Wits End! They have enough mobility to get AAs off, good sustained MagicDmg, tanky enough to not get blown up, make use of the MrPen and have room to build this item!

Only 5 champs out of 130+... Yes Champions like Irelia, Cho build it in certain situations, but they waste a ton of potential! Specialy Irelia! Our aim here is to increase its overall viability!



3. The Ideas:

I will list here all possible Changes/ideas and then put them together to actual items!

Stats:

  • Lower Mr, but extra Ar/HP
  • %ms/OOC Ms(OutOfCombat)
  • Tenacity
  • Flat AD/AP

Onhit Passiv

  • Onhit scaling with Lvl/AS
  • OnHit vs Same target scales up (x1.5/x2)

Passiv/Activ

  • Mr and Ar Steal
  • 10/15% magic dmg reduction vs last target hit (~like phantomdancer passiv)(suggested by a guy named Irelia Bot)
  • gain tenacity vs the AAed Target only
  • target gets a negativ tenacity debuff (so CC lasts longer on them)

New Wits Versions

Wits End v1: "Hybrid Wits"

  • Stats: **2700g **costs (item 1043 + item 3105 + 600g) (can be lowered by ~100g/200g) 42% AS 30 Ar 30Mr Passiv: 30 MagicDmg OnHit Passiv: Steals up to 5 Ar&Mr Onhit, stacking 3(4) times to a max of 15(20)

Wits End v2.: "Zephyr Wits"

  • Stats: ** 2500g** cost (same path) ** 42% AS** ** 40Mr** ** 7% Ms** Passiv: 50 MagicDmg OnHit Passiv: Flat 25% Tenacity Gained when AAing a champion and a flat -25% Tenacity REDUCTION debuff to a Target hit by an AA.(champs only)

Explaination: Only CC duration is increased, not the dmg done! They will just be longer CCed. (no impact on knockups surpressions etc.)


Wits End v3.: "AntiMage Wits"

  • Stats: 2700g cost (same path) ** 42%As** 40Mr Passiv: 30 MagicDmg Onhit, every additional hit deals 33% more basedmg, max at 3 stacks(60 Dmg OnHit) At 3 Stacks the target deals 15% less magic dmg towards the owner. (or each stack gives 5% magic dmg reduction) Passiv Reduces Ar and Mr by 4, stacking 4 times (16 total)

Wits End v4. "Tank Wits"

  • Stats: 2700g cost (item 1043 + item 1028+ item 1031) 300HP 40 Ar 42 AS% Passiv: 40 MagicDmg OnHit Passiv: 25% Tenacity and 5 Mr Steal/AA stacking 4 times.

Those are the the main themes that i came up with. Obviously all can be tweaked!

All of them are targeted to stay in the 2700g range. But we could make it a 3000+ item too! This would obviously increase the amount of ideas by a lot, but I personally think it should stay in a more tanky/bruiser area. To not mess with its old identity to much.

What is your favorite? Hybrid, Zephyr, Antimage, Tank, or a full 3000g+ item? My personal favorite is Hybrid :D Any other ideas or themes? You know where you can put them :P Ill be waiting!

Thats it for now! Remember you can find this series easly by typing: "SummonersLab" in the searchbar in the top left! Hope you liked it and maybe got some new crazy ideas :D

9 Comments

Doomyous12/8/2016, 9:15:01 PM1 votes

I see what you did there with the 42 [slayer-jinx-wink] Hybrid looks really nice! +1

TakaDama12/8/2016, 9:53:46 PM1 votes

Neat, though stealing both resistances would probably necessitate a severe drop in the cost efficiency since ADCs would benefit greatly from survivability steal while having relevant stats. Doesn't hurt that it synergizes with Runaan's Hurricane as well (or, in other words, Kog would be insane with this).

My suggestion:

Wits End v5 -2800g (Recurve Bow + Ruby Crystal + Ruby Crystal) -42% AS -250 Health -Unique Passive: 20 true damage on-hit -Unique Passive: Steals 5 Armor and MR on hit. Stacks up to 4 times.

Health over resistances to help make the most of the stealing, lowered on hit damage as true damage to make this item viable even if not able to stack quickly.

Champion Skin2/12/2017, 5:08:48 PM1 votes

Wits End v2.: "Zephyr Wits" Stats: 2500g cost (same path) 42% AS 40Mr 7% Ms Passiv: 50 MagicDmg OnHit Passiv: Flat 25% Tenacity Gained when AAing a champion and a flat -25% Tenacity REDUCTION debuff to a Target hit by an AA.(champs only) Explaination: Only CC duration is increased, but not dmg ticks! They will just be longer CCed. (no impact on knockups surpressions etc.)

Hmmm it seems quite powerful... if the stats weren't so "bad" it would be amazing on support/CC champions after all it is pretty much the item 3031 /item 3089 of CC given that CC only scale with CDR and also this if it existed though applying the effect before using your CC might be somewhat difficult

AgeOfTheMage2/17/2017, 8:41:21 PM1 votes

Jesus, i'm gonna bookmark this, and read it for later