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[Fun with Mechanics/Resources] Making another Heat Champion

Keagn··11 votes·4,062 views

Okay, I needed something to distract me from my epic fail, so I started looking through old Riot Topics, two of which that I seen, one regarding heat champions, and the other was referring to a champion with a pet. Here's the takes on both:

"I've wanted to make an engineer with a pet robot that follows her around for a while now. The idea would be the robot fights for her while she constructs things to help it out. Robot would keep her alive and she'd do the same for it. Possibly you could swap control between the 2 at will :X" - @gypsylord

"We've talked about using Heat on another champion occasionally, it's not something we feel must remain a Rumble only thing. Would definitely want to offer a different take on it while retaining the same core rules (build heat through ability casts, at max heat lose some functionality) though, avoid just rehashing Rumble's gameplay." - @Meddler

What I don't get is why they didn't put these two together. Its like taking apples and oranges (and a blend of mystery fruit) to make a kick ass fruit salad. Let's do this:

Widget and Bolt, The Sparks of Ingenuity (Literally making this all up on the fly, don't judge)

The trick here is that in all honesty, its the Robot that's the champion, and the Girl is the pet. But you need to portray it the other way around. The two will move simultaneously. The robot will generate heat, then go offline, at which point its up to the lass. Its like Lulu and Pix if Pix was a robot and could be attacked and killed. Annie and Tibbers on a much bigger scale. I'm not going to do names for abilities, just actions.

I believe the Mobile invention kit should have the same sort of process as Kha'Zix and Rengar (with his bonetooth necklace). It makes the most sense. But the amount of upgrades paths would be highly varying.~~ We'll talk about Widget's Mobile invention kit after we discuss the abilities~~. So overall, you will see this concept is mathematically like this: (Widget & Bolt) = Gnar(Kha'Zix+Rumble). You'll see why.

For this particular example, Widget is a 14 year old girl, and Bolt is a giant mechanical dog.

Here's a nice little 3D model fromhttp://adam-willis.squarespace.com/ that accurately depicts the direction I want Bolt to go in:

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5036210fc4aa2d2d31527dfb/51b77308e4b03ee97be27ae8/51b77e78e4b0b1ab92018e63/1370979964962/robodog+03.jpg?format=1500w

Primary: Fighter Secondary: Mage

Stats:

Widget:

Health: 538.36 (+76 per level) Attack Damage: 52.12 (+3.0 per level) Attack Speed: 0.625 (+2.7%) Movement Speed: 340 Health Regen: 6.52 (+0.55 per level) Armor: 22 (+3.5 per level) Magic Resist: 30 (+0 per level)

Bolt:

65% of Widget's health (350.09 at level 1) 120% of Widget's AD (62.544 at level 1) 110% of Widget's AS (0.6875 at level 1) Movement Speed: 120% of Widget's (408 at level 1) Health Regen: 90% of Widget's (5.868 at level 1) Armor: 130% of Widget's armor (28.6 at level 1) Magic resist: 100% of Widget's (30)

Passie: Bolt generates heat as he uses abilities. Once Bolt has reached maximum heat, he shuts down at that location and begins to cool down. The summoner will have command over Widget only during this cool down time. Widget can either let Bolt cool down where he shuts down (faster), or store him in her Mobile Invention Kit (Takes about 1.5x as long, but is a better alternative than him being destroyed.) In addition, when Bolt is in the danger zone, he has added effects to his abilities. When cooling down, a magic damage AoE surrounds the shut down Bolt, dealing damage to enemy units nearby. Bolt (Unactive) can also grants standard vision range where he rests. If Widget wanders off, and Bolt is still active by the time his cool down has ended, he will seek out Widget, and gain a movement speed bonus. The farther away Widget is, the greater the movement speed bonus.

Tentative: Upgrade paths may be determined by trinket color (Red, Blue Yellow)

https://40.media.tumblr.com/e3a7575db24eb9788c68b9dd7cadae3b/tumblr_njbd7og3RZ1smb6iho1_75sq.png

Q: Bolt bites a nearby enemy champion, dealing physical damage. He and Widget also gain an Attack Damage boost for x seconds. Danger Zone: X% of the damage that would be dealt is true damage.

Generates 5 heat

https://41.media.tumblr.com/167308cffe619047e0ff0d8e64508e93/tumblr_njbeq4i8PO1smb6iho1_75sq.png

W: Widget throws a wrench at a target location, which deals physical damage and sticks if it hits an enemy unit. Bolt will then rush to the target location, dealing physical damage to enemy units that he runs through/collides with and lands on. Danger Zone: Enemy units that Bolt comes in contact with are applied with burn (debuff, deals x magic damage per second, for y seconds)

Generates: 20 heat Cooldown: 18/16/14/12/8 seconds.

https://36.media.tumblr.com/27088c5843bbf86e840e0f3cb306949b/tumblr_njbd7og3RZ1smb6iho3_75sq.png

E: Widget whistles for Bolt to come to her side. If Bolt is already nearby, Widget can mount Bolt, gaining a movement speed boost, but generates more heat when casting abilities. Danger Zone: Bolt leaves a steam trail behind him for 3 seconds, dealing x magic damage to enemy units behind him.

Generates: 15 heat Cooldown: 9/8/7/6/5 seconds

https://36.media.tumblr.com/ac06e3443bcc7256b44500c4fafe176a/tumblr_njbd7og3RZ1smb6iho4_75sq.png

R: Widget has bolt combust wherever Bolt is at that time, dealing a large amount of magic damage. Depending on the position of the cursor, this will either be an AoE, or behave like Lux's laser. (If you've ever generated a gradient on a paint application, gimp for example, it behaves like that). If Bolt kills an enemy champion in the blast, his cool down time is reduced slightly. Heat that Bolt has stored up already gives extra damage to the blast. Cost: 20% of Bolt's Max Health Generates: 100 heat

When Playing as Widget:

Q: Next Basic attack deals bonus magic damage. W: Throws a wrench (Behaves similar to Olaf's axe) (Skillshot) which sticks to an enemy, ally, or location. E: Blows whistle, confusing and silencing nearby enemies. R: Spawns Bolt.

Now, for Widget's M.I.K. (As @FlameHalbrdOkido has dubbed it)

Unique Item: Widget and Bolt may buy a Mobile Invention Kit from the shop upon entering the game. The MI Kit allows for Widget to perform on the spot Upgrades to Bolt as needed in combat. Widget carries her Mobile Invention Kit with her into combat, ready to make upgrades to Bolt whenever he's offline.

Icons for Mobile Invention Kit:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/a695625c2a7eb7c9867d3dad96949c42/tumblr_njb1t4cp271smb6iho1_75sq.png

https://40.media.tumblr.com/bdca3732fde4634447bf0bc4994e433f/tumblr_njb1t4cp271smb6iho2_75sq.png

https://41.media.tumblr.com/368d616cffabcf98b78dc12654ca40e3/tumblr_njb1t4cp271smb6iho3_75sq.png

https://40.media.tumblr.com/3a699b3deef8baa02439e0c8d6756d42/tumblr_njb4qiCpTE1smb6iho1_75sq.png

I want each ability to have three possible upgrade paths. This would make for 9-12 variations of Bolt's abilities. And the upgrades would only be for Bolt's kit. The reason for this is that Widget is suppose to adapt Bolt to the situation. I'm not sure if I want his Ultimate able to be upgraded though. Any who, here's what that would look like:

QY: Bolt's jaw has been re-calibrated, and can now bite faster, biting 3 times instead of 1. QB: Bolt's head has been equipped with thrusters, and can now launch 575 units to a target. QR: Bolt's claws are enhanced, and he now does increased damage.

WY: Wrench will bounce if it hits the ground or kills that target, and Bolt will hop from each location it land on to the next one. (Up to 3 bounces) WB: Wrench can home in onto a targeted enemy. WR: Wrench can be thrown at Bolt to heal him for x% of his health.

EY: Bolt breaks apart and reassembles himself by Widget (Instant travel instead of travel time) EB: Widget will equip an armored shell to Bolt, giving him increased armor. This armor is shared when Widget mounts him. ER: Widget modifies Bolt's rig so he's ready to trample. When returning to Widget, he will knock aside all enemy units that stand between him and her. This ability only works for minions and monsters when Widget is riding Bolt.

You may upgrade an ability once that particular ability has been maxed out, and you have Bolt in your Mobile Invention Kit. For Example, I get all 5 points and want to upgrade Bolt, so when he deactivates, I pick him up, then the option to upgrade Q will become available. (Special thanks to BoyManDog33 for helping make this great!)

Dialogue:

Upon Selection: "C'mon Bolt! Let's go play!"

Upon Starting the Game:

"We got our duo right here, huh boy?" "You ready to have some fun Bolt?" "Let's go get them buddy. C'mon!"

Attacking (With Bolt)

"Sick em' boy!" "Let's get em'!" "Right about in 'Wrench Range'!" "Catch the bad guys Bolt!" "We got em' boy!" "Bolt, play nice! Actually lets just beat em' up." "Hey! Good boy!" "We've got this!" "We got em' right where we want em' boy!" "Maybe we're too good for them to handle." "Good boy!" "Us vs them? I like those odds." "Woof!" "Arf!" "Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..." " Angry Barking " " Rapid Angry Barking " " Biting "

(Without Bolt)

"Take that!" "Haha. Nothing a little elbow grease and Wrench-to-the-face won't fix." "There's more where that came from!" "You are sooooo lucky my dog isn't here. Or not." "This is easier than taking things apart!" "I got these suckers handled." "Y'know, Bolt would have so much fun taking you down too." "I might have to trade out my wrench for a 2x4. Maybe that'll knock some sense into ya." "Complaints? My complaint department is on hold, you'll have to deal with me instead." "Ouch, that look like it hurt." "Break something? I can fix it. I mean I'm not going to, but I could."

Walking (With Bolt)

"C'mon boy!" "Places to go Bolt!" "Hey, c'mon buddy, think of all the things we can see!" "You wanna go? C'mon, let's go!" " Panting (Bolt)" " Isn't this fun boy? (Widget)" "Woof!" "Yeah boy, that's the spirit!" "We're going!" "Woof!" Riding Bolt:

"Giyyup boy!" "Let's go let's go let's go!!!" "Woah buddy! That's the spirit!" "WOOHOO!" "Ruff!" "That way boy!" "Isn't this fun? "Barks in agreement"

Without Bolt:

"Man, this would be so much more fun with someone to travel with." "I'm going! Geesh." "Humming" "Whistles" "Hmm...Very interesting! NOT!" "Where's Bolt when you need em'? Oh yeah..." "I put the SCHEME in SCHEMER. Haha." "Strategic re-positioning and stuff. Yup." "This way? Aight, works for me."

Abilities (With Bolt)

Q:

"Sick em' Bolt!" " Loud bark followed by biting " "Chomp!" "Get em' good boy!"

W:

"Fetch!" "You want the wrench? Go get the wrench!" "Go get the bad guy Bolt. Go get em'!" "Where'd the wrench go boy? Go find it!" "Bolt, I see the wrench over there by the bad guys! Go get em!"

E:

"Whistles C'mere boy!" "Whistles Bolt, where are you?" "Bolt! C'mere boy!" "Where's my good boy? Oh! There he is!"

R:

"Bolt, play dead!" "Boom boom Bolt!" "Self-D boy!" "Nap time buddy. Put em' to sleep!"

(Without Bolt)

Q:

"Imitates laser noises hahaha!" " Imitates laser noises Take that!" "Zing!" "Got a bit of kick on that end doesn't it?"

W:

"Eat wrench!" "Take that!" "There's plenty more where that came from buster!" "Did you enjoy that wrench to your face?"

E:

"Loud whistle blowing*" "Stranger danger!" "Get away!" "SHUSH."

R:

"Nap time's over boy." "C'mon Bolt, wakey wakey." "Rise and shine, its time to beat some people to-daaaay!" "There's my good boy!" "Up and atoms! That's what dad always says."

Lore:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/e78fd50db2802944893742bc96f72e1f/tumblr_nj9zz7K5ED1smb6iho1_500.png

From the audio logs of Weiss Lucile Heimerdinger Widget:

Static

"Aye! Is this thing workin'?"

Taps microphone several times

"Aight, cool. This is Widget's audio log, for my ear's only. Well, that is, up until now of course-"

Door opens

"Weiss, you haven't happen to see my adjustable reverse-ratcheting magnetic box wrench have you?"

"DAD! I'M RECORDING AN AUDIO LOG!"

"Oh, my apologies dear. I don't mean to intrude, but have you seen it?"

Sighs

"No dad. I haven't."

"Hmmm, are you positive? I could of sworn I left it down here..."

"Dad. Didn't you leave the Trydiminiu-thing on?"

"Ah yes, by golly I did! I better get back to it!"

Door Closes

"Ugh, sorry about that. Funny thing though, I got his box wrench right here, but I needed it for this baby right here."

Thud against the table

"Haha, yes. This is gonna be sweet. This is the other set of ears I was talkin' about. Its not literally a pair of ears, but there are some in here too. Dad got me this for my birthday a few days ago and I started putting this bad boy together, with a few additions of my own of course."

Sounds of Widget at work followed by loud mechanical whirring

"HE'S ALMOST DONE! JUST A FEW MORE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS!"

Whirring dies down

"His core processor isn't functioning properly. His instruction node and response receptor aren't communicating for some reason...Aha!"

Unplugs

"These wires aren't connected. Perfect solution right here."

Takes a piece of gum and chews it

"Dis is da real universal solution right here!"

Spits out gum

"See? Works great!"

Plugs back in

"Now for the AI chip. Plug this in right....-"

Click

"There! Fits like a glove. Let's get you tuned on boy."

Mechanical whirring sound and bleeping sound

"HAHA! HE WORKS! NICE!"

"Barking"

"Good boy, who's a good boy? Are you my good boy? Yes you are, yes you are!"

"Barks in agreement"

"Yeah, I thought so. Now, what to call you..."

Bustling sound

"Hey! What are you doing? Get out of there!"

Metallic crunching sound

"No no no. Don't eat those!"

"Barks"

Sighs

"Alright, fine. let's see...name...name..."

Door opens

"Weiss, what is with all the noise down here?"

Hatch opens and mechanical whirring grows louder

"Ah! I see you've gotten the B-07T operational! Well done dear!"

Static cannon fires

"WAAAAAA!"

Whirring dies down

"What was that for boy?"

"Attempts to bark but bottom jaw falls to the ground"

"Here, I gotchya."

Widget at work

"There. Just a loose bolt is all. Bolt. Hmm, what do you think boy?"

"Barks in agreement"

"Bolt it is then, haha. I already know we're gonna have so much fun."

"Barks in anticipation"

"What you said."

-End of Tape-

Fun Combos (Inspired by YOU):

Sick em'! = Q (Upgrade 2) - E: Bolt's head launches out to bite an enemy, and Widget calls Bolt back over to her, bringing the enemy back with him.

Sick em'/Play Dead! = Q-R: Widget throws her wrench at an enemy, causing Bolt to seek out and attack that enemy. Widget then commands Bolt to explode, dealing tons of damage. (BoyManDog33)

(Suggest your own combos and if they're viable, I'll add them to the list!)

This is an EXTREMELY ROUGH representation of the idea. I may flesh the idea out overtime, but I would love for it to be a community project to do with you all, if you're interested. Leave your thoughts, comments, and suggestions bellow! :D

Patch Notes:

Heat values were made more consistent. Wrench now does damage on its initial hit. Added a Fun Combos section. Added an extreme hottweiler effect on Bolt's R. E3 upgrade has been modified (FlameHalbrdOkido* and Shamont, so sorry for the typo!) When waking up, Bolt is a very eager puppy, and seeks out his master at sub set onic speeds. Attack and movement quotes added. Suggest some of your own, and they just might make it up here :D Added some ability related quotes. Nothing better than some good ol' fashion dog commands and whatnot. Added Lore section! Check out Weiss/Widget's audio log! Made the resource section into the passive and clarified some of the wording. Fixed some typos, ignored more than fixed. Began calling Widget's M.I.K. what it is: A unique item. Relocated dialogue and lore sections. Relocated Mobile Invention Kit closer to the bottom and added a few icons for it too. Added Twisted Treeline/Crystal Scar M.I.K. icon. Upgrade paths have been edited, clarified, and renamed to clarify which kit they come with. More ability icons have been added. Apologies for the quality, they're just to get an idea across. Added new pic for cover pic

66 Comments

Keagn3 votes

Reference Images that I think give a decent example of what I'm imagining here:

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee501/rebex1213/chai.jpg

Found on rebex1213's photobucket. Basically what I'm envisioning, except maybe a longer skirt and leggings.

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/060/3/a/guard_dog_robot_by_mito25-d4rcuh0.png

By BaranyaTamas on DeviantArt

https://mavieenlair18.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/pacrim-mako-suit-e1374249975676.jpg

From Pacific Rim. This is what I imagine Widget wearing in the Mecha Team skin.

http://cdn.desktopwallpapers4.me/media/thumbs_400x250/3/26540.jpg

from embodiedFate on desktopwallpapers4me. This is what I imagine Mecha Bolts looking like. Image is better if you download it from the website.

FlameHalbrdOkido2 votes

I looooove W is like throwing a bone for a regular dog. When playing as Widget and you use W, could you then possibly switch to Bolt, and his AA would deal extra damage to the target with the wrench stuck on them? So Widgets R allows her to pack and unpack Bolt? How would a death Register with this Champion? If either takes fatal Damge would the other just collapse to the ground with grief, or does it work like a second life where the other could run away, how does this work? Or maybe Widget dying counts as death, whereas if Bolt dies, he would have a long rebuild time, and Widget would be very much defenseless? Also what about the M.I.K. upgrades?

Keagn2 votes

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I looooove W is like throwing a bone for a regular dog. When playing as Widget and you use W, could you then possibly switch to Bolt, and his AA would deal extra damage to the target with the wrench stuck on them? So Widgets R allows her to pack and unpack Bolt? How would a death Register with this Champion? If either takes fatal Damage would the other just collapse to the ground with grief, or does it work like a second life where the other could run away, how does this work? Or maybe Widget dying counts as death, whereas if Bolt dies, he would have a long rebuild time, and Widget would be very much defenseless? Also what about the M.I.K. upgrades?

Thank you! The W was a great little mechanic of fun. And Theoretically, you would be able to unpack Bolt and throw the wrench, but it would be a very difficult move to pull off. Not impossible though. As is, Widget's death counts as the champion death, but I'm strongly considering that the other could run away. And yes, Widget's ult allows her to respawn Bolt. Literally unpacking him. Reconstruction does take significantly longer than cooling down, yes, but Widget wouldn't be completely defenseless. She's you may find that she is a very capable girl :)

Still thinking over the M.I.K. upgrades, I want to offer multiple paths of upgrades to really sell that its you who's responding on the get-go.

Keagn2 votes

Update: M.I.K. upgrades have been added in. Also considering a release skin: Mecha Team Widget and Bolt, where Widget would be wearing a suit similar to the ones in Pacific Rim, and Bolt would be styled like the mecha skins. I'll put up some reference images later.

Keagn2 votes

Bump

Keagn2 votes

Updates have been made! I am currently working on stats for Widget and Bolt, so that should be fairly solid within the next half an hour or so.

Keagn2 votes

Stats have been posted.

Embertine2 votes

I like it. It's definately a champion theme Riot is missing.

Keagn2 votes

Some dialogue has been added! Check it out and suggest some of your own!

Keagn2 votes

Bump

Keagn2 votes

Bump for the early risers!

BoyManDog331 votes

Really want some red's on this. I've seen them comment on worse champion designs.

Keagn1 votes

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Really want some red's on this. I've seen them comment on worse champion designs.

Yeah, it would be nice, but its s'all good. Gives me time to polish :D

Keagn2 votes

More dialogue added! Check it out!"

Keagn2 votes

Bump for the night. I'll come up with more stuff throughout the day. Tell me what champions you want Widget and Bolt to have interactions with though!!!

BoyManDog331 votes

Definitely Heimerdinger, Rumble, Tristana, and perhaps Corki. That is if you agree with my lore suggestion of her being raised by Yordles. I imagine the nickname "Uncle Rumble" being used by her. Maybe for Trist she can say "You call that an explosion" etc. Then perhaps the Piltover peeps, Cait, Jinx, Vi, Jayce and finally maybe Blitzcrank? Like a "OOH OOH OOH Can I take you apart Mr. Robot?"

Which reminds me which direction do you want to take the lore in? I've been believing her to be Part-time Lab assistant to Heimerdinger by day, Crime fighting side kick to Rumble by night. Apparantly, as I just learned, Heimerdinger and Rumble don't see eye to eye. This could create an interesting dynamic between the three of them. Heim believes in creation for the sake of creation, while Rumble is closer to finding honor or loyalty in being a Yordle with yordle technology. I could be way over thinking it though. Entirely up to you the direction you take the lore in :^)

Keagn1 votes

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Definitely Heimerdinger, Rumble, Tristana, and perhaps Corki. That is if you agree with my lore suggestion of her being raised by Yordles. I imagine the nickname "Uncle Rumble" being used by her. Maybe for Trist she can say "You call that an explosion" etc. Then perhaps the Piltover peeps, Cait, Jinx, Vi, Jayce and finally maybe Blitzcrank? Like a "OOH OOH OOH Can I take you apart Mr. Robot?"

Which reminds me which direction do you want to take the lore in? I've been believing her to be Part-time Lab assistant to Heimerdinger by day, Crime fighting side kick to Rumble by night. Apparantly, as I just learned, Heimerdinger and Rumble don't see eye to eye. This could create an interesting dynamic between the three of them. Heim believes in creation for the sake of creation, while Rumble is closer to finding honor or loyalty in being a Yordle with yordle technology. I could be way over thinking it though. Entirely up to you the direction you take the lore in :^)

At the very least, she will serve as an apprentice to Heimerdinger in Piltover. I'm really liking the idea that she would be raised by Heimerdinger there, but that's still up in the air.

I'm definitely banking on her having interactions with all the tech savvy people. Main four right now are Heimer, Blitz, Orianna, and Viktor. Others are highly likely to be added, but I'm not thinking she'll have interactions with Tristana. If she does, like you said, it'll be along the lines of, "You call that an explosion? Bolt, show her how its done." At which point Bolt will pretend to arm his self-destruct. I'm hoping to get a lot more people in on this, because as of now its just us two and Okido :P

BoyManDog331 votes

I have an idea regarding the Lore. She could be the apprentice to Heimerdinger; A piltovian baby left at the outskirts of Bandle City raised by the Yordles Heimerdinger and Rumble. That could help flesh out her knack for invention and mechanical canine. (see picture :^) )

As for the kit design, I feel this may fall into a similar trap that Quinn and Valor fell into. The release was "Quinn and Valor" and now it's just Quinn. "Valor" is just an execute part to Quinn's kit. In a similar fashion, when you're playing as Widget, it's just time not playing Bolt. To avoid this trap, I offer the following changes to the kit.

Passive: Bolt is deployed by Widget. While active, Bolt will act as Widget's basic attacks dealing x bonus magic damage. Bolt gains heat with each ability cast. At 100 heat, he activates a shield as he recharges that reflects X% magic damage back to the attacker. Upon taking Lethal damage, Bolt explodes dealing AOE magic damage. 60 Second Cooldown (starting after Bolt's death)

R: Bolt bites onto a targeted champion and pulls them in a targeted direction. At the end of the pull, Bolt detonates dealing massive AOE magic damage to all enemies. Bolt rapidly pulls himself together.

This makes it so 1. Widget is the controlled character but Bolt is the weapon. 2. There's no confusion as to who should be targeted in a gank scenario and 3. There's more play WITH Bolt rather than AROUND Bolt.

Think Azir soldiers mixed with Malzahar's voidlings. I've had an idea similar to this (two champions in 1 at the same time) and this would be a perfect kit to implement it into. In a way he could also act as Orianna's ball.

And I keep getting ideas as I type (hopefully you don't think I don't like what you have already, which I love by the way, just getting fueled for more ideas by reading yours is all). Perhaps the W's wrench could deal damage both ways in that she throws the wrench for Bolt to fetch and if it hits a champion it deals damage. When Bolt goes to fetch he knocks the champion back and deals damage again. This would provide safety in lane and offer some sort of utility.

I'm gonna be watching this thread and hopefully getting more ideas. Tell me what you think of my suggestions :^)

Keagn2 votes

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I have an idea regarding the Lore. She could be the apprentice to Heimerdinger; A piltovian baby left at the outskirts of Bandle City raised by the Yordles Heimerdinger and Rumble. That could help flesh out her knack for invention and mechanical canine. (see picture :^) )

As for the kit design, I feel this may fall into a similar trap that Quinn and Valor fell into. The release was "Quinn and Valor" and now it's just Quinn. "Valor" is just an execute part to Quinn's kit. In a similar fashion, when you're playing as Widget, it's just time not playing Bolt. To avoid this trap, I offer the following changes to the kit.

Passive: Bolt is deployed by Widget. While active, Bolt will act as Widget's basic attacks dealing x bonus magic damage. Bolt gains heat with each ability cast. At 100 heat, he activates a shield as he recharges that reflects X% magic damage back to the attacker. Upon taking Lethal damage, Bolt explodes dealing AOE magic damage. 60 Second Cooldown (starting after Bolt's death)

R: Bolt bites onto a targeted champion and pulls them in a targeted direction. At the end of the pull, Bolt detonates dealing massive AOE magic damage to all enemies. Bolt rapidly pulls himself together.

This makes it so 1. Widget is the controlled character but Bolt is the weapon. 2. There's no confusion as to who should be targeted in a gank scenario and 3. There's more play WITH Bolt rather than AROUND Bolt.

Think Azir soldiers mixed with Malzahar's voidlings. I've had an idea similar to this (two champions in 1 at the same time) and this would be a perfect kit to implement it into. In a way he could also act as Orianna's ball.

And I keep getting ideas as I type (hopefully you don't think I don't like what you have already, which I love by the way, just getting fueled for more ideas by reading yours is all). Perhaps the W's wrench could deal damage both ways in that she throws the wrench for Bolt to fetch and if it hits a champion it deals damage. When Bolt goes to fetch he knocks the champion back and deals damage again. This would provide safety in lane and offer some sort of utility.

I'm gonna be watching this thread and hopefully getting more ideas. Tell me what you think of my suggestions :^)

First off: Great Picture. LOVED that show as a kid.

And I see where you're coming from with the R suggestion, I actually considered this for an upgrade (and it might still happen as a combo between head launch and whistling for Bolt), however, the idea with being able to in a sense deactivate Bolt through R is you're sacrificing a lot of your plays for on the spot damage and escape. As for your points, it very much is that Widget is in control all the time. I haven't worked out Stats or AI behavior yet, but the summoner is always moving Widget, except for when she's riding Bolt, then technically they're moving Bolt through Widget. For your second point, I can see where you're coming from, "Oh snap, Widget's in X lane, do I kill her or the dog?" I think they will tend to gravitate towards Widget, because she isn't completely defenseless with or without Bolt, but taking out Bolt will be a serious strategic approach, as it takes away some of her strategies.

Widget and Bolt have separate auto attacks. When I work out the AI behavior for Bolt, it will look a little something like Widget's attacking X target, so Bolt will also attack that target. Or, in a stupid situation, "Widget is attacking X target but being attacked by Y target, Bolt will take out Y target with extreme prejudice (the actual definition).

I completely agree with your thoughts on the wrench though! It just makes sense. I'll end up making this change with a few others in a bulk, so it may stay as is for a moment until I apply all the clarifications/changes. Thank you for your feedback! :D

Keagn1 votes

Updated with Lore section in the form of an audio log. Should definitely check it out.

Gray Fanchon1 votes

My thoughts after reading: my god, that upgrade system sounds like a ton of work. Making skins would be a nightmare.

I feel like the upgrade system could be more elegant - maybe instead of an item, the upgrades just mean Bolt and Widget are stuck in place while Widget goes to town? It would mean you couldn't do things like upgrade mid-combat, would possibly add a strategic decision into play. I'm picturing this like Kha'zix, only moreso.

Really neat concept! Those were just my initial thoughts, sorry if someone's covered that already.

Keagn1 votes

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My thoughts after reading: my god, that upgrade system sounds like a ton of work. Making skins would be a nightmare.

I feel like the upgrade system could be more elegant - maybe instead of an item, the upgrades just mean Bolt and Widget are stuck in place while Widget goes to town? It would mean you couldn't do things like upgrade mid-combat, would possibly add a strategic decision into play. I'm picturing this like Kha'zix, only moreso.

Really neat concept! Those were just my initial thoughts, sorry if someone's covered that already.

Its alright, everyone's feedback counts, thank you!

I'm thinking about how to make the upgrade system better, and the idea of the item was to throw her in the same boat as Viktor and Rengar, it would count as a trinket and she could get work on Bolt as she gained stacks or something.

But you are right, its elegance leaves much to be desired.

I'm hoping to make a smoother upgrade system, its in the works. I don't want to completely deny upgrade paths, or rehash Kha'Zix gameplay, so it's going to take some thinking. I still want her able to only upgrade Bolt when he's deactivated and in her inventory though. It gives the player incentive to deal with a slightly longer cool down time for a great amount of power. I have some time to roast over it though, we can figure this out together!

And yes, that's an open invitation to anybody.

BoyManDog331 votes

Maybe to help push it in the right direction, Do you get to upgrade when you put a point in your ultimate or when you Max a skill? This would make it seems like less numbers. It would also make it clear when you can upgrade the Q as opposed to the W or E, either way. Also will there be only one upgrade per ability being chosen?

Keagn1 votes

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Maybe to help push it in the right direction, Do you get to upgrade when you put a point in your ultimate or when you Max a skill? This would make it seems like less numbers. It would also make it clear when you can upgrade the Q as opposed to the W or E, either way. Also will there be only one upgrade per ability being chosen?

Yeah, when you choose an upgrade (For example, Q1 for Q), the other upgrades for that ability are no longer available (Q2 and Q3 in that case). I think I'm going to roll with you can upgrade the ability when you max it out. Thanks man!

Keagn1 votes

A few small changes have been made, mostly organization. Still tackling the M.I.K. problem, its not as polished as I'd like right now, but some slight improvement. More will definitely be done.

Keagn1 votes

Added in a few icons for M.I.K. Expect around 6ish more, since one for Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar, as well as unique icons for when you're carrying Bolt. I hope to start making ability icons too, but we'll see how that goes. Expect some big changes on the upgrade paths supporting different play styles associated with the different trinket types, because this ought to allow for the best upgrade paths and possibilities.

Edit: I completely overestimated my skills with icons.

Keagn1 votes

So yeah, I'm bad with icons, but hey, I made another M.I.K. icon.

Keagn1 votes

Edits have been made to Upgrade paths and whatnot (Thanks to BoyManDog33)

Keagn1 votes

4 bad ability icons straight off the press!

WhiteLionspirit1 votes

This is a great looking kit. I'd play the hell out of this champ just because of how unique and diverse the play style is.

Keagn1 votes

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This is a great looking kit. I'd play the hell out of this champ just because of how unique and diverse the play style is.

Thanks, that was the goal. I wanted to make a champ that accommodated several playstyles, and wasn't just rehashing of existing champions. I hope I can get a lot more feedback, and this concept can blow up :P

Keagn1 votes

Bumpin'

Keagn1 votes

bump

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

love the quotes, some are pretty funny! This is all looking very good though, it has developed a lot since I last saw it. Im really hoping that this takes off at some point because its really good, and it deserves attention, because your obviously very dedicated. Also your icons are not that bad, they get the idea across, not everyone is a great artist. Shamont says he's not that good on paper, but I think he is, but we both admit he's not very good at drawing with a mouse at all, so don't feel bad!

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

also although some may not think the upgrade method is very elegant, i think that it fits thematically. I mean it would if it were programmed, and it would be easier to program, and actually do in the game, because of the way you set it up. Upgrades take time, and of course the engine needs to be off to do it so right now i think its ok.

Keagn1 votes

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also although some may not think the upgrade method is very elegant, i think that it fits thematically. I mean it would if it were programmed, and it would be easier to program, and actually do in the game, because of the way you set it up. Upgrades take time, and of course the engine needs to be off to do it so right now i think its ok.

Thanks FHO, I really appreciate your support and feedback. I hoped the icons would work well enough. And you're pretty spot on about being dedicated, I hope to make a career out of it if I can. Shamont probably just needs to try a drawing pad maybe, but I understand that completely!

And yes, I did some spicing up for the M.I.K. , but it is still very rugged, as it should be. Its like mixing Kha'Zix and Viktor with a special twist on it. Thematically sound and mechanically sound is a successful feat in my eyes. Thanks again! :D

Keagn1 votes

Bumparoo

Keagn1 votes

Ba-bump tssss.

Keagn1 votes

Probably just pulling my own leg, but I'll keep trying.

Keagn1 votes

Bump

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