So let's list why the new boards suck (I can use that word right?)

Report Team GG·Oct 18, 2014·11 votes·1,223 views

Moderation is still retarded. "Don't be a jerk". Gee, thanks Riot I still have no idea what post you're punishing me for. Not knowing what I did wrong won't help me change my behaviour.
The colour scheme is awful First off, I understand dark colours make you edgy and cool (not srs) but the Geneva convention of designing webpages basically says light backgrounds work best. Always. Bright = upbeat and lively. Dark = letdown.
It's got the reddit voting system. As in, butthurt randoms downvote your posts for no reason other than that one time you spliced a comma and they have to OCD laser in upon that comma. If GD's upvote/downvote system was bad, this board is 10x worse.
The traffic basically died. The same threads are on the front page..... for the last month. Smart move Riot (not really), but I really suggest you maintain chronological view as default.
The boards are basically circlejerks now. Controversial opinions get downvotes faster than Master Yi with Le Highlander xD lelelelele 420 quickscope. Upvotes and downvotes create a sheep mentality. It's like a snowball. If people see upvotes they're going to upvote because of human nature. If they see downvotes, other people are going to downvote.

If you really wanted to promote intelligent discussion then there are only a few things you should do.....

Merge all the boards. You don't have enough traffic Riot to actually break them up like that.
Moderate better. As in, actually tell people what they did wrong and not just a generic rule statement.
Get rid of upvotes/downvotes or at the very least HIDE THEM
Go back to the old forums you goofs and retain your more dedicated moderation. These boards offer nothing. You are literally Presidents Choice Cola right now. No one wants to come on your boards when they can get the real thing at reddit. But then again, I doubt anyone's surprised. The LoL team hasn't innovated anything since League was released after beta. Trying to act like champions like Zyra were groundbreaking concepts cause you could play farmville with her seeds.

12 Comments

x1cuPpjgKeOct 18, 20143 votes

I actually like them just because of the looks :(

DaenOct 18, 20143 votes

K. Let me preface this by saying that I agree there are a lot of...rough edges on the Boards. Anyway, on to your thread.

Moderation is still retarded. "Don't be a jerk". Gee, thanks Riot I still have no idea what post you're punishing me for. Not knowing what I did wrong won't help me change my behaviour.

Yep. The moderation message is pretty unclear still from what I've gathered, especially since it's supposed to be a learning tool rather than a punishment.

The colour scheme is awful First off, I understand dark colours make you edgy and cool (not srs) but the Geneva convention of designing webpages basically says light backgrounds work best. Always. Bright = upbeat and lively. Dark = letdown.

Matter of opinion. I'm not sure if I agree or not, though the color scheme doesn't necessarily bother me.

It's got the reddit voting system. As in, butthurt randoms downvote your posts for no reason other than that one time you spliced a comma and they have to OCD laser in upon that comma. If GD's upvote/downvote system was bad, this board is 10x worse.

It's...exactly the same as GD voting except that you can change your vote and depending on the sorting it can function differently. I'm not sure what you're going for here.

The traffic basically died. The same threads are on the front page..... for the last month. Smart move Riot (not really), but I really suggest you maintain chronological view as default.

Which sorting method are you using?

The boards are basically circlejerks now. Controversial opinions get downvotes faster than Master Yi with Le Highlander xD lelelelele 420 quickscope. Upvotes and downvotes create a sheep mentality. It's like a snowball. If people see upvotes they're going to upvote because of human nature. If they see downvotes, other people are going to downvote.

This is just part of human nature. How would you propose fixing such a problem without depriving players of the ability to quickly and visually show their feelings on content?

Merge all the boards. You don't have enough traffic Riot to actually break them up like that.

This is one of the reasons GD failed so hard as a discussion platform. This would be one of the worst possible things Riot could do to this platform.

Moderate better. As in, actually tell people what they did wrong and not just a generic rule statement.

Agreed. Moderation is really impersonal and doesn't seem to accomplish the goals that are really desirable.

Get rid of upvotes/downvotes or at the very least HIDE THEM

...why?

Go back to the old forums you goofs and retain your more dedicated moderation.

This is one of the few things that has been completely and logically explained. The old forums had distinct mechanical limitations that made change functionally impossible; I'm not saying that the transition was a good idea (pls), but realistically speaking the switch had to happen sometime.

The rest of your post kind of devolves. Look. Constructive criticism is fantastic and it's what forces improvement and innovation. Bashing Riot and/or the platform for completely arbitrary reasons like Zyra not being groundbreaking is not constructive, however; it's basically just spam.

Report Team GGOct 18, 20141 votes

K. Let me preface this by saying that I agree there are a lot of...rough edges on the Boards. Anyway, on to your thread.

Moderation is still retarded. "Don't be a jerk". Gee, thanks Riot I still have no idea what post you're punishing me for. Not knowing what I did wrong won't help me change my behaviour.

Yep. The moderation message is pretty unclear still from what I've gathered, especially since it's supposed to be a learning tool rather than a punishment.

The colour scheme is awful First off, I understand dark colours make you edgy and cool (not srs) but the Geneva convention of designing webpages basically says light backgrounds work best. Always. Bright = upbeat and lively. Dark = letdown.

Matter of opinion. I'm not sure if I agree or not, though the color scheme doesn't necessarily bother me.

It's got the reddit voting system. As in, butthurt randoms downvote your posts for no reason other than that one time you spliced a comma and they have to OCD laser in upon that comma. If GD's upvote/downvote system was bad, this board is 10x worse.

It's...exactly the same as GD voting except that you can change your vote and depending on the sorting it can function differently. I'm not sure what you're going for here.

The traffic basically died. The same threads are on the front page..... for the last month. Smart move Riot (not really), but I really suggest you maintain chronological view as default.

Which sorting method are you using?

The boards are basically circlejerks now. Controversial opinions get downvotes faster than Master Yi with Le Highlander xD lelelelele 420 quickscope. Upvotes and downvotes create a sheep mentality. It's like a snowball. If people see upvotes they're going to upvote because of human nature. If they see downvotes, other people are going to downvote.

This is just part of human nature. How would you propose fixing such a problem without depriving players of the ability to quickly and visually show their feelings on content?

Merge all the boards. You don't have enough traffic Riot to actually break them up like that.

This is one of the reasons GD failed so hard as a discussion platform. This would be one of the worst possible things Riot could do to this platform.

Moderate better. As in, actually tell people what they did wrong and not just a generic rule statement.

Agreed. Moderation is really impersonal and doesn't seem to accomplish the goals that are really desirable.

Get rid of upvotes/downvotes or at the very least HIDE THEM

...why?

Go back to the old forums you goofs and retain your more dedicated moderation.

This is one of the few things that has been completely and logically explained. The old forums had distinct mechanical limitations that made change functionally impossible; I'm not saying that the transition was a good idea (pls), but realistically speaking the switch had to happen sometime.

The rest of your post kind of devolves. Look. Constructive criticism is fantastic and it's what forces improvement and innovation. Bashing Riot and/or the platform for completely arbitrary reasons like Zyra not being groundbreaking is not constructive, however; it's basically just spam.

Honestly, if you're going to break down a post one by one, literally no one is going to put the effort into arguing with you unless they have some insatiable need to be right.

I have no interest into branching a topic out into 20 more topics.

And I have no interest putting in the effort to quote each and every individual response.

And I have no interest in organizing this.

There needs to be a PSA. The whole I disagree with every single point you made shit is completely ineffective cause no one actually gives a shit enough to put the effort into arguing on 20 different levels at the same time.

Rewrite and make it more concise thx

GranspearZXOct 18, 20144 votes

This is the real reason people liked GD. In a discussion on GD, you could cherry pick points and ignore another user's rebuttal and few would question it because the format made it difficult to even have that sort of response.

With this format, that kind of ad hominem idiocy is exposed. Doesn't feel good when you can spout nonsense and people actually notice. "I'm right and I have no interest in discussing it further."

Why are you even here?

DaenOct 18, 20143 votes

If you're going to break down a post one by one, literally no one is going to put the effort into arguing with you unless they have some insatiable need to be right.

Let me get this straight; you would rather I just put everything into a giant paragraph and not address your specific concerns? Why did you even put the effort into writing a bulleted list of grievances if you didn't want them addressed?

I have no interest into branching a topic out into 20 more topics.

Seeing as I literally copypasted from your topic, I think it's safe to assume it's still one topic. Not 20.

And I have no interest putting in the effort to quote each and every individual response.

Again, then why are you even bothering to use a forum? That's the beauty of long-form communication; you get to have very specific and deep conversations.

And I have no interest in organizing this.

I don't think it's possible for that post to be more organized. I quoted the material to which I was replying then replied specifically to each portion.

The whole I disagree with every single point you made shit is completely ineffective cause no one actually gives a shit enough to put the effort into arguing on 20 different levels at the same time.

Except that I agreed with a lot of it...I get the feeling you didn't even read it before writing a post about you being too lazy to read part of a conversation.

K, I'll make it more concise so that you can understand it. It'll be another reply to your comment.

DaenOct 18, 20143 votes

I figure one word responses might be something you can handle, seeing as full sentences were too much for you.

Moderation

Yes.

Color

Opinion.

reddit

...what.

Traffic

Sorting?

Circlejerks

Nature.

Merge

No.

Moderate

Previous.

HIDE

...why?

Back

No.

Nonconstructive.

Shadow MerchantOct 18, 20143 votes

He speaks for me. These boards are trash. I'd much rather have old GD. And yeah they said "we cant do things" with the old boards but that doesn't stop them from being mods does it? No. The only reason they wanted to switch over is so that they can say "look we made it so you have to use it! Why? Cause we think it's in EVERYONES best interest to use our new crap". Paraphrasing of course but it's basically what they said. The color is dreadful. At first I didn't mind it. Kinda liked the darkness for late night browsing. But now it's god awful. It really makes me want to get off after 1 minute. I got a thread deleted for asking how to report bots in games without sending in a support ticket if possible. Seriously. The moderation is bullshit. If they have time to go through every damned thread that pops up and delete the ones they don't like then why couldn't they have done that on old GD? Short answer: They could have.

EDIT: inb4 deleted for being off topic or some crap

Deep Terror NamiOct 18, 20142 votes

I have to disagree with your view on the color scheme. Bright colors are harsh on the eyes, especially in a dark room, or when you're changing between pages that have dark schemes (even the blank white screen the instant before any page loads is harsh).

I don't know why you'd want votes hidden. This is a good indicator to what the community likes, and there is no reason not to let individuals know what other people think of their ideas so that they can either continue posting similar content, or avoid it because it's unwanted for w/e reason.

Finally, please stop making blanket statements like "nobody wants this". You speak for yourself, nobody else.

Report Team GGOct 18, 20143 votes

I have to disagree with your view on the color scheme. Bright colors are harsh on the eyes, especially in a dark room, or when you're changing between pages that have dark schemes (even the blank white screen the instant before any page loads is harsh).

I don't know why you'd want votes hidden. This is a good indicator to what the community likes, and there is no reason not to let individuals know what other people think of their ideas so that they can either continue posting similar content, or avoid it because it's unwanted for w/e reason.

Finally, please stop making blanket statements like "nobody wants this". You speak for yourself, nobody else.

You stop making blanket statements as well. "You speak for yourself, nobody else" sounds like a blanket statement. Are you literally saying that no other person in the world agrees with me?

lmao hypocrite

And downvotes/upvotes are reflective of a herd mentality. If you knew what it was, you'd actually be able to think through your post.

Deep Terror NamiOct 18, 20142 votes

Are you literally saying that no other person in the world agrees with me?

Eh, no, that's not what I said. I'm sorry you had to take it out of context just so you can make yourself happy that you're right (when you aren't). You literally made the claim that no one wants to use these boards; not only is that untrue, nobody has given you the right to speak for them and that is what I was addressing. Only that you are trying to speak for others, NOT that your view is not shared by anyone. Even if someone actual tells you you can speak for them on a subject, that does not mean they agree exactly with you. You're going to have to actually show where I made a blanket statement if you want to accuse me of such. I specified you and your opinion only, or do you not understand what "you speak for yourself" means?

On the subject of herd mentality, I couldn't give a shit what you think about it. If the herd votes, then that's what they want. It doesn't matter if their decisions are uninformed or not, they can get on whichever bandwagon they choose. I'd also like to point out that unless you have data from a survey you took of people voting on these forums, you're only making a guess. More unsubstantiated claims.

MaIevoIentOct 19, 20141 votes

Here's an alternative in the meantime that I made before Riot fixes the boards.

jinxedchefOct 20, 20141 votes

New boards is a clustfuck. No two ways about it. The color scheme is only part of it. There are no discussions anymore because new threads start buried.