The voting system will only get worse.

MajorPain9·Feb 4, 2015·30 votes·2,182 views

According to Riots knowledge the boards are growing in size after the huge hit the community took after GD was nerfed. (I have my own assumptions as to why I am skeptible about this but that is for another time.)

We are already beginning to see the trend on the most upvoted item. It's the circle jerk. The same circle jerk you were all warned of. It's a communities growing echo chamber of hate that is funneled into upvotes. Don't get me wrong there can be some love to. The skins department has plenty of upvotes to get a few random threads in a day to the front page, but you can't say there is variety.

This is what happens in these types of formats. Organized pitchforks if you will.

Expect more posts attacking riot. This format condones that type of behavior. Expect more spam. This format condoes that type of behavior. Expect less discussion. It will not be voted and it will be ignored. There will be less quality. There will be less depth.

It's only going to get worse. This community was probably the least ready for a reddit style. Now you gave the clowns of GD a way to lock down the main discussion with vitrol. And don't tell me the new topic button is an option. Unless you enjoy reading through thousands of LF TEAM or LCS FANTASY threads.

The thing is, the posters using the format are beginning to notice this trend as well:

I try that. Those posts tend not to get upvoted and viewed at all; my latest attempt did not receive a single comment. Meanwhile, the 'OMG RITO SUCKS FIRE EVERYBODY' threads get tons of upvotes. It's easy to say 'be the change you want to see in life!' but a single person tends not to cause much of an impact, especially online.

There have been quite a few threads like this, but they pretty much get ignored due to how the reddit styled forums work. Only the "OMG RAGE FACE, WHY IS SONA GETTING NERFED AGAIN AND ZED IS HEALTHY???" threads are getting upvoted because everyone is so fucking annoyed by the lack of communication from the balance team.

Unless riot begins to quell the storm brewing you will only see more posts like these. Take my opinion for what you will, its not a fact, just my interpretation on how forums operate. I have been active on these types of discussion for a better part of my own life and am simply using my personal experience to relay my opinion.

19 Comments

MajorMajoraFeb 5, 20154 votes

It doesn't promote discussion, it promotes easily consumed soundbites that please us. Also it kind of sucks aesthetically.

DaenFeb 4, 20153 votes

I agree with you, but not necessarily for the reasons you've given. I think thread voting is actually fine, the more people that participate the more accurate it'll get.

Comment voting, however, is fundamentally flawed. Threads with over 50 responses become extremely difficult to follow, and over 200 it's basically impossible. Due to this fact, the larger the community gets the harder it will be to follow discussions, and it really doesn't seem like this can scale properly. It's very easy to use votes improperly (voting on content just to make your content more visible) or decide not to vote because of the way it affects sorting, and no amount of Riot asking us to vote will change those mechanics.

MajorPain9Feb 4, 20152 votes

Which could be easily rectified if they simply put quotes around replied to nested topics. I don't understand why chronological keeps having this one specific issue ignored, when it would make the entire function actually work. As of now anything over 20 replies is near impossible to follow in chron.

DaenFeb 4, 20154 votes

I'm talking about Discussion, actually. In order to find new content or the most important pieces of a thread, users have to read through TONS of completely useless information to get there.

AmachyFeb 9, 20153 votes

lol this kid got downvoted after using her parents pc while they were away, and somehow thinks an entire community = circlejerk.

Butthurt much? Guess the same circle jerk upvoted you, uh?

MajorPain9Feb 9, 20151 votes

My parents live all the way up the california coastline....but he if that's the best rebuttal you got I appreciate the attempt. The more you try the better you will get. I believe in you dude.

MXXIVFeb 9, 20152 votes

By replying on his post your mental age is set below 20. Please keep in mind that actual age isn't very relevant, especially in the era of internet. Many grown-up people act like kids, violently and recklessly.

MajorPain9Feb 10, 20151 votes

By even insinuating someones mental age from a post applied to his discussion makes you just as retarded as him. Keep in mind that your baseless assumptions about online posters mental age isn't relevant to any type of mature conversation you are expecting to have.

MXXIVFeb 10, 20151 votes

Does that imply you are more mature when talking in real life, while on the internet you call people retarded?

MajorPain9Feb 10, 20152 votes

It implies that anyone that cares about there "online" maturity wouldn't engage in a discussion about someone's so called "mental age" on an online forum because it will basically come down to shit slinging. Anyone trying to promote such a discussion has nothing to gain from the debate because it's an attack in the first place over a simple internet post, making it a immature discussion to have.

MXXIVFeb 10, 20151 votes

Ok I think I really started this with the wrong foot. Sorry.

What I was trying to say is that you're not going to get anywhere by replying to such comments. You don't look older or wiser, despite your effort and you actually bump up content that is pretty shitty.

Instead, reply to good comments they deserve it more.

MajorPain9Feb 10, 20151 votes

Fair enough.

turbofeed9000Feb 4, 20152 votes

Are you actually expecting riot to have insight on the future?

DaenFeb 4, 20155 votes

Are you actually expecting riot to have insight on the future?

There are entire industries based on having insight on the future. Wall Street is a great example.

Future prediction is based on the past and the present, as well as researching and following trends. So yes, we expect Riot to have insight on the future.

turbofeed9000Feb 5, 20151 votes

Maybe my cynicism is a reflection of the fact that I can predict the future more than they can. I can also balance a meta better but alas, here we are.

IsajohoffFeb 5, 20153 votes

I'd be very surprised if you could reliably predict the future better than riot (who have all the information, tech and experience to do so).

Maybe you could predict what's gonna happen in the near future as an example? Kinda hard to believe you otherwise. (Don't give an example from the past, hindsight is always 20/20).

Same goes for meta balancing. It's a lot more complicated than most of us can imagine.