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Don't tell me not to blame the jungle.

Ada Wong··1 votes·805 views

I understand where everyone comes from its not okay to rage at anyone, say hateful things or such, but (TWICE) in a row today I had two jungler intentionally grief the hell out of my early game lane phase to try to make me (Intentionally Feed) the enemy team because I am already countered...

First game, the jungle runs in actually barely gets a kill by diving early he really did screw me over but I was like okay it barely worked whatever didn't say anything in chat.

Same game the jungler comes back through the lane after a second enemy barely escapes but he comes through my lane while the enemy is there again (Gets me behind XP puts enemy ahead. (IF two or more people are in a lane there is less xp)..

Then he decides to start hitting all the CS and causes the enemy to freeze for over 2 minutes who is a counter putting them in a huge lead.

Second game jungle does the same toxic shit he comes in fail ganks (Doesn't pay any attention) doesnt even ask even when the game is 0/0 off-sets the CS and causes loss of lane control, doesn't answer exactly to why they did it then chooses to mouth off in chat arguing instead of saying "Sorry I was wrong you are right I will never do that in ranked again." but flat out griefs then argues...

And people say don't blame the jungler (Generally I don't blame a jungler for not carrying a game or for playing bad, but what I see junglers doing is beyond bronze, and beyond bad there is no legal reason for people to be intentionally throwing lanes super hard early game to piss off your team I understand bad things happen in fights, but this early on, and what I experience people doing its beyond stupid, and then Riot complains to me about (YOUR AN INTENTIONAL FEEDER) you will get banned for intentional feed, I wonder why I can easily go 0-10 in a lane phase when a jungler flat out trolls, being countered, and not playing something that sits on a turret all day.

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with early game ganks between 1-3, but there are a lot of factors to consider in doing such other than just running in pressing Q and giving the enemy +2 free kills because you think okay ill run in just because they are over extended Without calling (EXACTLY) what you are doing in chat. (Doing this early game however) is worse than making a mistake mid or late game especially when you can easily get countered in a lane phase and dived even if low enough.

There is reason why (First placement yesterday) went actually better vs Today with toxic junglers throwing intentionally It needs to stop there should be more penalty than just Intentional Feeding but when does Intentional Throwing and making it look like an accident get dealt with.

6 Comments

Mister Punches2 votes

I don't think you were using constructive criticism at all when typing back at them, based off of the way your post came off as. It sounded more like you raged at them, and raging and using destructive criticism has already been shown that people do worse when they are essentially being talked down upon.

JoeMG2 votes

People like to blame the jungler when they're doing bad in lane. If the jungler is feeding your lane and failing to at least pressure the enemy than he's just a bad player. Can't blame a whole class for poor individual performances.

midnight oil241 votes

In these games you got a jerk. He is not representative of junglers as a whole. What people complain about are the people who blame the jungler for not making plays that wouldn't be helpful anyway.

Ada Wong1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mister Punches,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zRvTK2Le,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-11T21:38:49.777+0000)

I don't think you were using constructive criticism at all when typing back at them, based off of the way your post came off as. It sounded more like you raged at them, and raging and using destructive criticism has already been shown that people do worse when they are essentially being talked down upon.

First game wasn't as toxic as the second, both games I finally just ended up muting everyone and accepting the fact it was going to be a loss, First game went a bit better but still lost because of the jungler throwing, and Second Game even worse because they choose to argue in /all chat which I forgot to turn off again since the update but turned it off now.

First game i Told them (Exactly what they did and muted them all before there could be much of an argument I don't want to get banned for talking too much in chat) So constructive I would say so if someones too incompetent to understand what I said then I don't know what to say...

. Having two or more players in a lane causes loss of XP early game before 6 can tilt into enemy favor during a trade . Pushing CS Ahead giving enemy the advantage and favor for +2 minutes in game . The to two being the main issues but taking a invalid jungler that can't really do jack shit to support your team during an all in comp and fight on top of the other two is the 3rd issue not that I cared about this because the first match could have been much better without the intentional trolling.

[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zRvTK2Le,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-11T21:44:08.381+0000)

In these games you got a jerk. He is not representative of junglers as a whole. What people complain about are the people who blame the jungler for not making plays that wouldn't be helpful anyway.

I hope it was just jerks I honestly don't know but I hate having to put up with these idiots I don't like using the I word like this but its how I feel IRL, because there is just no other word to describe why a person would do this, but honestly sometimes I would rather a jungler not just run in and try to make a play which you call it which obviously isn't going to work and just put the enemy way ahead, like this is where just having some general knowledge of the game comes in...

Like I understand new players, but a level 25 account in ranked or placements (Not paying any attention to)

. Health of your allies . What you are going to do in the fight when you go in (How is it going to play out . What spells your allies has, what spells the enemy team has . Where is the other enemy's on the map . Cooldowns and skills of your ally . Level of you and your ally.

Like its important because skills and champions play a major role in winning especially running in if a palyer is half health (If you are a jungler like LeeSin your ally is playing Lux and able to bind the enemy then by all means if the enemy has some missing hp you could (maybe actually successfully put it off without a huge penalty if it goes wrong compared to if a player is playing an assassin mid only to have the jungler run in without paying attention to anything...

Like there is so much that can easily tilt the game into the hands of the enemy very early when just running in (I don't like to rage at a player for making a bad play we all do it sometime or another) but running in at level 3 or 4 and doing this is just beyond stupid, like if I can get banned for (Intentionally feeding the enemy) because a player is trolling and not being able to just switch heroes or class, then there needs to be something done about players intentionally throwing early when there is a reported pattern of this over games...

Like Trolling with TahmKench Bard Blitzcrank Taliyah You can easily intentionally throw games with these im sure there are some others too, as well as playing jungle role and intentionally giving it to the enemy when you know what will happen with your ally.

I honestly hope this is just a couple of jerks in my last two games, but guess I will be forced to play something that can sit on turret now when these kids choose to troll.

Kei1431 votes

Tldr, but of course you don't blame the jungle. Haven't you learned that you only blame the support?

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Huge wall of text not even a tl;dr

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