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1v9 Mentality: Muting everyone and everything is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard

Lost R··2 votes·1,989 views

This is supposed to be a team game, where you work with your team to beat the enemy. Even the slightest amount of strategy works wonders in this game. However, with the direction that the League community in general has gone, less and less people even want to register that the rest of their team exists, and all it takes is so much as a single missed minion to start a titanic flamewar in the chat and make people either leave or try to force a surrender or defeat.

However, this mentality that has been exploding in popularity, just turning off all communication and ignoring absolutely everyone and everything, is one of the things that is destroying the game. It allows even a half-assedly coordinated team to run roughshod over you all day.

Almost every other game at this point has not just one person, but several people who will absolutely refuse to even be in the same quadrant of the Rift with another player, let alone talk to them or communicate in any way. This came to its logical conclusion earlier today when the jungler - as they usually are, and they're almost always Udyrs, too - flashed over the wall multiple times to prevent me from healing them when they DESPERATELY needed it.

This sort of mentality ruins games, and we need to stop it. If you have to deafen yourself and put on heavy blinders to even begin to hope to maybe have a chance at not autotilting yourself into permaban status in a game about dealing with other people, then there is something gravely wrong with you, and you need to fix that issue or just not play at all.

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Netorare2 votes

It's supposed to be a TEAM game but when u are paired with 4 other MONKEYS then it's no longer a team game...

HavokDash5 votes

and You think sitting there degrading and insulting them, acting as if you are somehow above them, superior to them, is gonna make them want to work with you. The problem is the snooty arrogance people like you show. a common attitude I see is one of "I'm too good for this team, I cant carry this trash team"

Rather than explain things to them, suggest it instead of trying to beat them over the head with it...People will take on an air of "I'm too good, I dont deserve garbage teammates who dont play at the same skill level I see myself at" (aka, you see yourself as a challenger teir player, therefore you expect your team to play at the SAME skill level, challenger level in low bronze/silver. And if they dont play to the skill level YOU expect of them, you toss your nose into the air and lament how you get saddled with "A team of 4 monkeys"

Even though I may get bad teammates, I will still do my best to explain. Not degrade and demean them. If I see them chasing kills all over I will try and explain "If you focus thier towers you become a threat, you force THEM to come to YOU instead of YOU chasing them all over the map" It may not work every time, But I dont sit there talking about how great a player I am and how "trash" my team is.

But I am wasting my breath considering this narcissist community is to drunk on thier toxic "I'm too LCS PRO for this" to dare see anything that doesnt pat them on the back.

Lost R2 votes

The faux-Challenger mentality also causes people to immediately ditch their teammates the instant they get an inch up over anyone else, namely the enemy team.

"I'm now fed. I don't need any of you anymore!"

Almost never said verbatim, but I've seen people do this more times than I want to remember. Even the ADCs do it to their supports, eventually refusing to be anywhere near them because they think they can suddenly 1v5 everyone and get all of the pentakills forever. The very instant that delusion is shattered, they fall into despair and start screaming at the rest of their team for intentionally feeding the enemy.

People think getting every last kill is the endgame, and not a means to an end, and their colossal arrogance causes them to make even more colossal fuck-ups and never learn from them. Hell, the entire League culture has basically been taught to never learn from any personal experience, but rather only learn half of a guide lifted from... somewhere, and follow it blindly without thinking for themselves about the countless interactions in the game.

HavokDash2 votes

Oh yeah I have seen that ALOT. Players get ahead in kills and then immediately begin sabotaging and intentionally screwing over their team because they see thier team as "beneath" them. They begin running solo, talking down and degrading thier team. They repeatedly think they can 1v5 and the moment they fail it becomes "wtf, where is my team? stupid noobs" meanwhile the team is three blocks behind where the player left them. And the moment you suggest "Hey maybe dont leave your team behind and run solo and you wont get killed before we can help" the instant response is "I'm carrying this trash team" and they Point to their double digit kda as if that is a debate ender. You cant criticize them at all because >insert kda here<

and as soon as they lose the match, instantly it has nothing to do with them. its all their "trash team's" fault. I am seeing more and more matches where the player will sit there and intentionally starve their teammates out for kills. Anytime someone is about to score a kill, the player sweeps in and bursts the kill out from under them, so the Kda looks incredibly ONE SIDED.

I.E. 1/7/5 0/4/9 0/2/7 2/8/10 37/2/6

So once the player with 30+ kills gets taken down after bragging about how they dont need a team and they get 5v1'ed, The rest of thier team can be killed with a look. And this player will still go on the entire game "Omg my team is such trash. I cant even carry these noobs, report them for inting" And the player wont even recognize that they are the reason the team lost, not the "feeders" who were left to try and fight over whatever scraps the "solo carry" wasnt able to scrape up. Meanwhile the enemy team is actually willing to SHARE THE KILLS so they all scale and are able to get items. But the challenger kid still thinks the only reason he lost is because of his "inting" team.

But its funny that these people brag about thier KILLS, when League is an OBJECTIVE BASED GAME. Its been said Many times before "you can have 100+ kills, but unless you actually take towers and push to the nexus, kills mean shit all!" Thats like playing chess and bragging about how you win because you hit the opponent with more chess pieces rather than going for the CHECKMATE which is the point of the game. Unless you actually go for the NEXUS (checkmate) your kills dont mean shit. And if you want to brag about "look at me and all my kills" then uninstall and go play super mario or CoD, because you are clearly only interested in how good YOU look, not actually winning. In that case its clear the player sees thier team as "witnesses to my glory" rather than "teammates to help us win"

This is not halo this is not call of duty you are NOT gonna make the enemy run out of respawn. I dont give a shit about being beaten over the head and told whats "meta" I have a brain and prefer to think for myself, not "Well current meta is X so i dont need to think, I have a website to tell me exactly what to build"

These "challenger tier players" to me are little more than lobotomized sheep patting themselves on the back. They see themselves as challenger teir but are unwilling to actually think for themselves.

ı Sona ı1 votes

I believe that under the worst and most caustic scenarios that we should take a breathe and remember that it is just a game and are all trying to have fun! However, I do accept that not everyone is able to maintain a positive outlook and demeanor when facing these sort of scenarios.

I believe that, assuming that we cannot persuade the general player base to exude positivity and calmness during all scenarios of the game, muting everyone is a necessary evil sometimes. It is better to not communicate with your allies and play to the best of your ability then to allow yourself to absorb any potential toxicity that you might sense could be sent your way, which could lead to a player becoming tilted or could lead them to reciprocate the same toxicity and end up being punished.

fatherdarius1 votes

It is better to mute all, not type, and be thought a dotard... Than it is to lose self control followed by one's account, and therefore remove all doubt.

I'd rather people get to keep their accounts in good standing (in fact, keep their account at all!) by behaving in a consistently sportsmanlike manner.

Snowman Arc1 votes

No, thanks. Most people, especially in low elo, have no fucking idea what to do or how to play the game. I consider myself a guy who has decent game knowledge and good decision making, and it's proven often with correct shotcalling when I play with friends.

Now, I play ranked with randoms, I can't know if they are good or bad. I'd rather just follow my own gameplan that I know has high chances of success then having to work with random monkeys just to get points for teamwork. I also don't run the risk of chat flaming, that can reduce my output in the game.

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