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Troll Que

MrEnder··2 votes·633 views

Alright so here is the thing I play ranked almost always and: I am not a toxic player I'm usually the guy on the team trying to keep the peace. I don't AFK I don't get negative or give up I almost never surrender and try hard every game till the end But sometimes I pick non meta champs or do non meta builds. These picks or builds are not troll picks and USUALLY I do quite well with them. But even if I do well there are hard core "must follow meta" people and they will report me and usually they are very toxic.

Due to this I do believe I've been stuck in the Troll Que...

I'm not a troll I work very hard to win and rank up. I have players who are much much higher rank than me even tell me I have the worst ques they have ever seen. Yet nearly ever game I pull positive KDA... example last game I went lux and was completely carrying ended with 18/5/20... we lost... 1 person went AFK. 1 person started to intentionally feed... and 1 person refused to leave the base or jungle... This is typical for me...

12 Comments

Azeranth1 votes

Its called normals

MrEnder1 votes

{quoted}

Its called normals

I play ranked and only ranked (well sometimes ARAM but I'm not really counting that...)

Azeranth1 votes

Solution: Get over yourself

MrEnder1 votes

{quoted}

Solution: Get over yourself

6 games in a row with an intentional feeder. Last game our braum ran into their turret 8 times in a row and danced around it letting them free kill him... this is SIX games in a row now... explain that?

Azeranth1 votes

You can get over your refusal to play normals

Could not care1 votes

I'm a support player.

I am not a toxic player either, and I don't afk as well.

I generally play 2nd tier supports, but no non-meta crap. I enjoy playing against off-meta supports/adcs/junglers. Not only they tilt their team, play averagely to poorly unless exceptionally skilled, and usually have literally one gimmick they must do-or-die, they also make it very hard for their teams to coordinate with them.

My KDA is often bad, very often - atrocious. Last game on this account, I went 1 / 14 / 12. But we won. Our win condition was to keep Lucian and Gragas alive, so every time Twitch or Kat would try to pick me, they would waste important spells and screw up their map pressure. It could've gone better, and I certainly played like garbage quite a few times, but in the end, win's a win. We're talking about normals, but about high plat to high diamond hidden mmr.

Occasionally, I get AFKs on my team. Sometimes, enemies have them on theirs. Sometimes, I get a baby rager. Sometimes, they do. The fact that you don't see their internal problems doesn't mean they don't exist. The fact that they're more likely to have an AFKer/baby rager is just statistically more likely as for me it's 4x, for them its 5x. Some games are unlucky, in that sense that those people exist, but it applies to both teams. I see in your history that you won as 0/5/8 Ashe. Much trollque there?

So, it is very likely that while you know how to build an advantage, you don't see your win conditions. Also, learn to get carried if you are getting screwed. Finally, it matters shit if you're 20/0 if you're at wrong places all the time.

Think about it.

MrEnder1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Could not care,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wfVe8G2U,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-08T23:17:08.120+0000)

I'm a support player.

I am not a toxic player either, and I don't afk as well.

I generally play 2nd tier supports, but no non-meta crap. I enjoy playing against off-meta supports/adcs/junglers. Not only they tilt their team, play averagely to poorly unless exceptionally skilled, and usually have literally one gimmick they must do-or-die, they also make it very hard for their teams to coordinate with them.

My KDA is often bad, very often - atrocious. Last game on this account, I went 1 / 14 / 12. But we won. Our win condition was to keep Lucian and Gragas alive, so every time Twitch or Kat would try to pick me, they would waste important spells and screw up their map pressure. It could've gone better, and I certainly played like garbage quite a few times, but in the end, win's a win. We're talking about normals, but about high plat to high diamond hidden mmr.

Occasionally, I get AFKs on my team. Sometimes, enemies have them on theirs. Sometimes, I get a baby rager. Sometimes, they do. The fact that you don't see their internal problems doesn't mean they don't exist. The fact that they're more likely to have an AFKer/baby rager is just statistically more likely as for me it's 4x, for them its 5x. Some games are unlucky, in that sense that those people exist, but it applies to both teams. I see in your history that you won as 0/5/8 Ashe. Much trollque there?

So, it is very likely that while you know how to build an advantage, you don't see your win conditions. Also, learn to get carried if you are getting screwed. Finally, it matters shit if you're 20/0 if you're at wrong places all the time.

Think about it.

To give you an idea... here look at my last 5 lux games...

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20111571

5.00 KDA Loss 2.6 KDA Loss 8.80 KDA Loss 3.00 KDA Win 4.83 KDA Win

All games had OVER challenger level damage, KDA, damage taken and CS. Even my physical damage was slightly higher than challenger level on all 5 of those games... yet I lost a majority of them...

Could not care1 votes

{quoted}

To give you an idea... here look at my last 5 lux games...

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20111571

5.00 KDA Loss 2.6 KDA Loss 8.80 KDA Loss 3.00 KDA Win 4.83 KDA Win

All games had OVER challenger level damage, KDA, damage taken and CS. Even my physical damage was slightly higher than challenger level on all 5 of those games... yet I lost a majority of them...

You didn't understand a thing from what I wrote. None of those things you listed are win conditions, they are only help to increase your stats. This "challenger level" that you're "over", even a platinum player would slap you silly. I watched a bit of your Shaco (you won that game by the way) and even though you won, you were terribly inefficient. Like camping a bush for 15s for a full HP Olaf instead of taking krugs, and needing to run as soon as he approached - you shouldn't have been there in the first place, as you had no chance of killing him. And that was 1m segment, I dare not say what I would have seen if i watched longer, and I'm not even nitpicking on smaller mistakes.

If you assume you're a challenger that is stuck in elo hell, you are terribly wrong. Not only challengers can climb to plat+ in a day, they are also vastly superior in other aspects. If I told you that some games Faker had <60 cs by 20 minutes and crushed the enemies, you probably wouldn't know the reason why as you're focusing on stats too much. Having stats is good - but in no way that wins you games by default.

Now, I won't reply any further. If you do want to get better, watch this for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agE5-TSeF48. So much material is available on internet, just look for it if you want to improve. And if you want to blame the team... that's just silly.

If you don't I'm wasting my time, so there's no point anyway. I tried to explain, my Samaritan is satisfied enough.

MrEnder1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Could not care,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wfVe8G2U,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-08T23:50:10.536+0000)

You didn't understand a thing from what I wrote. None of those things you listed are win conditions, they are only help to increase your stats. This "challenger level" that you're "over", even a platinum player would slap you silly. I watched a bit of your Shaco (you won that game by the way) and even though you won, you were terribly inefficient. Like camping a bush for 15s for a full HP Olaf instead of taking krugs, and needing to run as soon as he approached - you shouldn't have been there in the first place, as you had no chance of killing him. And that was 1m segment, I dare not say what I would have seen if i watched longer, and I'm not even nitpicking on smaller mistakes.

If you assume you're a challenger that is stuck in elo hell, you are terribly wrong. Not only challengers can climb to plat+ in a day, they are also vastly superior in other aspects. If I told you that some games Faker had <60 cs by 20 minutes and crushed the enemies, you probably wouldn't know the reason why as you're focusing on stats too much. Having stats is good - but in no way that wins you games by default.

Now, I won't reply any further. If you do want to get better, watch this for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agE5-TSeF48. So much material is available on internet, just look for it if you want to improve. And if you want to blame the team... that's just silly.

If you don't I'm wasting my time, so there's no point anyway. I tried to explain, my Samaritan is satisfied enough.

You kinda just proved that you don't understand shaco... had i taken krugs I would have risked myself dieing. My job that game was simple "to distract" to keep people "top lane" that was my job and I did my job. Shaco is all about focusing objectives and getting people to waste their time on you. Shaco is played effectively by effectively playing mind games. His game mechanics are far different from any other champ. This is why I didn't use shaco as an example I used lux. Lux however can do 1 thing and 1 thing only. She can kill things and or get things killed. She doesn't have good tower killing abilities die to lack of a quick escape. She can't split push. She can win middle and roam then poke and kill late game while clearing minion waves. That is all can't tank can't kill towers can't engage.

But example now another game as lux 3/1/2 end of game. Had 2 intentional feeders 1 TF ADC and a really bad top lane... This is beyond normal...

Morality Coach1 votes

Maybe you could try not keeping the peace? If someone is being toxic just ignore it, even if its towards you. A lot of times getting involved makes the toxic person think the whole team is against them, and tilts them further. When it's a 1 on 1 toxic thing that's a lot better.

Peacekeeping can really lower ELO in Silver V, people in that division are REALLY mad cause they belong there and think they are gold level, better just to keep quiet and focus on CSing better, tiny 1-2% improvements you can make each game.

MrEnder1 votes

Also I can't share anything BUT my stats so when I'm showing information I'm sorry the ONLY thing I have to offer is STATS so what do you expect!

Troll Armada1 votes

Yeah, the boosters, either think they have, have, or are delusional in their logical reasoning skills, in that they feel that if you do something 'non-meta' then it's a free ticket for them to not only troll, but over the top troll and be toxic to you, because then someone at riot will see their point.... "oh yes, I see here that adc did not choose exhaust, REPORT DISMISSED!" ...so the thinking goes.

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