Seems like it's fine to int on ARAM

Jinzo Torrance·Aug 6, 2017·1 votes·1,064 views

You can run straight into the enemy everytime not giving a shit, even after 8 times
You can build AD on Thresh but never auto a single time an enemy champion
You can build AD Zilean and never ult anyone and never speed anyone but yourself
You can AFK and then flame your team after you dashed into the enemy team for umpteenth time and not get "supported" when everyone is low and pushed under turret

Will start inting too everytime, playing mostly ARAM since a year+ and never got the message that a player I reported got punished even though I report this kind of behaviour everytime. I'll start being a toxic asshole too since clearly these people have no remorse in ruining my games, why should I have them in ruining theirs?

47 Comments

Kei143Aug 6, 20172 votes

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You can run straight into the enemy everytime not giving a shit, even after 8 times

Intentional feeding is punishable, even in ARAMs.

You can build AD on Thresh but never auto a single time an enemy champion

Not a punishable offense

You can build AD Zilean and never ult anyone and never speed anyone but yourself

Not a punishable offense

You can AFK and then flame your team after you dashed into the enemy team for umpteenth time and not get "supported" when everyone is low and pushed under turret

AFK and flame are both punishable, running in and killing attempting to make plays isn't punishable.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20171 votes

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Intentional feeding is punishable, even in ARAMs.

Too bad nobody got punished in over 1 year

Not a punishable offense

Griefing, giving up

Not a punishable offense

Griefing, giving up

AFK and flame are both punishable, running in and killing attempting to make plays isn't punishable.

Running in the middle of 5 people alone, while already feeding and the enemy is already fed, is intentional feeding.

Yeah, lol.

Kei143Aug 6, 20171 votes

no wonder you never see anyone getting punished in ARAM.

Your view of what is punishable is so skewed.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20171 votes

It's not AD Thresh or Zilean that I find punishable or wrong, it's how they play, if you go AD and don't ever AA or just don't help the team by using your revive ultimate or speed them up, you're griefing the team.

Kei143Aug 6, 20171 votes

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no wonder you never see anyone getting punished in ARAM.

Your view of what is punishable is so skewed.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20171 votes

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It's not AD Thresh or Zilean that I find punishable or wrong, it's how they play, if you go AD and don't ever AA or just don't help the team by using your revive ultimate or speed them up, you're griefing the team.

BigBellBruteAug 6, 20172 votes

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It's not AD Thresh or Zilean that I find punishable or wrong, it's how they play, if you go AD and don't ever AA or just don't help the team by using your revive ultimate or speed them up, you're griefing the team.

Just because they're not playing how you would does not make it griefing or punishable.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20171 votes

Alright, when I'll go support I'll steal every CS.

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20172 votes

And you won't be punished for it, actually. You'd just lose a game. Lol.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

I am griefing the team, my ADC and probably my entire team will report me after the game.

I am deliberatily making my team weaker in respect to the enemy one without having communicated prior to the game that I would not play following the meta.

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20171 votes

Oh yea, you'll get reported a lot. But you won't be punished.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

People got banned for not playing meta and not communicating it to their team prior to the game (Thresh only said it at the start of the game, Zilean never did), like the Nunu and Singed guy, and if they hadn't create a huge uproar about their ban they would still be banned and probably some others are still banned for the same reason but didn't create an uproar like they did.

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20171 votes

They ran smite and left lane, which is not as subtle as stealing farm. In fact, stealing farm would go unnoticed for a very long time unless it was actually brought up to Riot personally and even then, not likely.

BigBellBruteAug 6, 20171 votes

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Too bad nobody got punished in over 1 year

You don't know that to be true. In fact, I know it not to be.

Griefing, giving up

Wrong. Not autowing is not giving up. It's usually a sign of a beginner and over cautiousness.

Griefing, giving up

Wrong again. Not ulting and not speeding anyone except yourself is not griefing, nor giving up. It's their E and Their R. They choose what to do with it.

Running in the middle of 5 people alone, while already feeding and the enemy is already fed, is intentional feeding.

Yeah, lol.

Again not necessarily. As Alistar, I frequently run right into the middle of 5 and knock them all up and the like. That's Ali's job. It's up to the rest of the team to follow up.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20171 votes

gtfo lol

They were inting and griefing the team by not helping it.

I don't give a shit about how you play Alistar, my Urgot was using his E into them and pressing W every time. 0 punishment.

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20172 votes

To be fair here, everything you've stated isn't actually intentional feeding. It could be, but it could also not be.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

What is "intentional feeding" to you?

For me is keep running into the enemy team after you already did it a number of times and knowing that nobody will follow for various reason so you're going in alone against 5 of them.

Example: Urgot, without even a complete item, presses E into the enemy team, activates W and tries to fight 5 people while his whole team is clearing a wave under turret and is very low and already told him that other than a Morgana spellshield nobody will follow him. And this is the 4th time.

What's your definition?

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20172 votes

knowing that nobody will follow for various reason so you're going in alone against 5 of them.

This is a matter of tactical dispute and not actually intentional feeding. If he wants to go in and wants you to follow him and you never do, then it's not actually intentional feeding as much as it is being stubborn.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

That's literally intentional feeding.

He knows the team will not back him up but he will keep going 1v5 everytime not giving a shit of what his teammates just told him.

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20171 votes

He's not literally intentionally feeding. He's probably pissed that you aren't following him though. That makes him stubborn, but in a team game, you have to realize that if I go in and you do not, you've ruined my idea of a good play. HOWEVER, everyone has their own idea of what a good play would be, and someone has to go in first to initiate. Sure he sucks at initiating, but who else will? Teamfighting is definitely one of the more awkward things about the game because it can end up being really uncoordinated when everyone has their own idea of what is about to go down, only to have them all disappoint each other.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

That's bad communication, that you expect someone to go in, they don't and you look like a retard for going alone. I can insec someone in front of my Malzahar but if the guy didn't expect me to do it and wasn't ready to ult him, that was communication, maybe I died too for it. What happens is that I say "Sorry, mb" and try to ping more and communcate prior by typing to my team.

But when you clearly says to somebody that you won't go in and not follow them, and they still go in multiple times, that's intentional feeding, I couldn't care less of his reasoning precess, the outcome will remain the same of him dying alone since his team already told him they will not back him up.

Nobody told him "Urgot you should engage for us", he just kept going in, kept dying.

Like I understand what situation you're describing but this is not one of those, the guy didn't listen to his team and feed multiple kills when he was told nobody would help him.

Stubborn or not, that's feeeding, and he intentionally fed.

This Is Your DadAug 7, 20171 votes

Half of league players would be banned, especially top lane if doing the same thing over and over again was punishable. I see top lane go into a fight over and over and lose constantly, getting further and further behind, but it's not intentional. They just don't know how to play safe.

Jerry SeinfeIdAug 6, 20171 votes

AD thresh is amazing tho

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20171 votes

I know, especially when you don't even attack

Jerry SeinfeIdAug 7, 20171 votes

What has that got to do with thresh?

A draven that doesn't attack anyone does just as little dmg. You complain about people being thrash and building offbuild. Meanwhile AD thrash is actually amazing on aram.

I get decent hooks off, i just don't pull myself towards them, this functions asa stun while i (and my team) position myself to AA, i peel for myself with flay. And as i'm constantly on the backline i can pull overextenders back with my lantern.

You also seem to be unable to understand ARAM. MAny people get champs they don't play and some champs are just plain garbage in aram. ex.: a little whileback i got Riven in aram, i'm lvl 5, but i know i'm thrash with the champ and pretty much don't play her outside of aram anymore. Add that to her being a melee champ, and my team being mainly melee against a full poke team. I went 4/16/23 (or something like that) but i still tried my best.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

I'm not reading this lol

The way you play AD Thresh and how my AD Thresh played are different

Jerry SeinfeIdAug 7, 20171 votes

That just proves my point.

There's no reason to complain about offmeta builds if the person playing it just does nothing / isn't capable of playing it yet.

If people really just stand around, then they'll get punished (if it's not sporadic). If they play AD thresh but can't play it with success they're not necessarily inting.

Try playing Support or ADC for a while, you'll notice how some people are really trying and aren't bad in general but still fail.

And if the alistar keeps going in 1v5 it doesn't mean he's trying to die, He probably thought he'd be able to knock 3-5 people up and expected you guys to follow, if you didn't he just dies. IDK what champs you play but my 3th highest mastery champ is leona, i love playing her but barely still do. If i go in either my team has to follow or i die. Not every engage champ is rakan.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

Not reading this sorry

Jerry SeinfeIdAug 7, 20171 votes

Lmao, it's not even that long. W/E you seem like the person who deserves people running it down.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

It's not long, it's a bunch of non-sense.

If you go AD you must attack the enemy, there is no way you aren't capable of doing it because you did it on Thresh.

dont trust girlsAug 8, 20171 votes

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It's not long, it's a bunch of non-sense.

If you go AD you must attack the enemy, there is no way you aren't capable of doing it because you did it on Thresh.

Wow! I'm really curious as to how Thresh got a better KDA than you and did just as much damage as you while building full ad without auto attacking?!?!?! Wow! those hooks must have been unreal! really, he's a godlike Thresh player. How dare you say he was trolling you or intentionally feeding! Shame!

https://s1.postimg.org/uz1wy2hjz/Screenshot_-_8_8_2017_2_19_41_AM.png

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Maybe the reason why riot wont do anything about him is because he played rather well! I mean, I know everything is the supports fault and whatnot but you know....

GeauxxAug 6, 20171 votes

Ok? Not everyone takes aram seriously like you do.

Also, the only person who gets the message that someone was punish is the LAST person to make the report, and you don't know if you ever are unless you just sit there waiting till everyone leaves.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20172 votes

Yeah dude, I'll start inting on ARAM too.

It's just ARAM no? xD

GeauxxAug 6, 20171 votes

It's ok to have your feelings hurt man, but no one cares.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20172 votes

Alright, then why did you waste your time here? xD

Just downvote, no?

zPOOPzAug 6, 20171 votes

Nice job on acting like a child bro. At least now you will have definitive assurance on whether it's okay or not when you are banned like a child throwing a tantrum.

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20172 votes

I really do care about your opinion xD

zPOOPzAug 6, 20172 votes

I'm not the one whining on the board throwing a tantrum like it's your dairy or something

Jinzo TorranceAug 6, 20172 votes

Tell me more, maybe I'll read your next comment

CamilleRule34Aug 7, 20171 votes

Record your arams, if you can prove it was inting, you can send a ticket to riot. If you can't prove it was actually inting, move on,.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

Uhh, what?

"Intentionally feeding" is a report option and I chose that for first and fourth guy, I'm not gonna download a video recorder and record every single game I play.

Riot isn't going to do shit as always against inting and they will probably say he had a bad game if I contact support.

AngrychickénAug 7, 20172 votes

Weeeelllllll, you don't have to, you can just go to your match history and download the games in question.

Easy.

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20171 votes

Why Riot can't? Why do I need to contact Riot support? Why do I need to waste even more time when I already reported them and wasted 20 minutes of playing with them?

Why can't Riot do it themself after I specifically told them what players were griefing/inting and in what game? Where did Riot said they needed a recording of the game or else they won't do shit?

dont trust girlsAug 7, 20171 votes

Just because you think nothing is going to happen doesn't mean that nothing will happen, If you're not willing to record the games in which someone is ruining your game... If that's not something you can be bothered to do then sadly you have no place complaining about it. You have options open to you. "You must be the change you want to see in this world" [slayer-jinx-wink]

Jinzo TorranceAug 7, 20172 votes

LOL

THERE'S A FUCKING REPORT OPTION CALLED "INTENTIONAL FEEDING", WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF IT IF I HAVE TO RECORD THE GAME, WHERE DID RIOT SAID THEY WON'T DO ANYTHING IF THE GAME WASN'T RECORDED?

dont trust girlsAug 8, 20171 votes

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LOL

THERE'S A FUCKING REPORT OPTION CALLED "INTENTIONAL FEEDING", WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF IT IF I HAVE TO RECORD THE GAME, WHERE DID RIOT SAID THEY WON'T DO ANYTHING IF THE GAME WASN'T RECORDED?

To be fair, you could send a ticket in to riot support to find out why they cannot help you as well. I never said riot wouldn't do anything if the game wasn't recorded. I said if you wish to see change here you're going to need the recording if nothing seems to be happening, because sometimes you need to go to do the extra step to get the result you want. You can be salty all you want but sadly you're not going to make any progression with it if you are that way.