I watched it happen in real time.

Lost R·Jun 20, 2018·31 votes·11,616 views

Some guy was screaming at me all game, calling me shit-tier garbage cancer trash for most of a match for being hyperfocused and trying to support an entire overspecialized team in every fight, in every situation at all times no matter what my current situation was. Reported him after the game, and because supports are almost extinct in this game and the block/mute system doesn't seem to function, I got put in another game with him (he didn't seem to realize I was the same support as last game).

After that game, I get the notification that a player has been punished. I sit in the lobby for a few minutes and note that he did not come into the lobby at any point, and based on his match history, he has not played a single game since.

The report system works. I witnessed it work in real time, and it only took one. Don't let anyone try to lie to you that it doesn't.

68 Comments

Bob the ToastrJun 20, 201812 votes

Sure it works against flamers and racists and homophobes but where's the evidence it works against inters and trolls?

KVbqbFsC8eJun 20, 20186 votes

There is none, which is a fact this board desperately tries to defend.

HyquiemJun 20, 20181 votes

B/c high elo brings smurfs and Smurf’s are used as trolls.

HonestJohnTheConJun 20, 20181 votes

The truth is that it doesn't work very well against inters and trolls to avoid false positives.

...I would like an update to it in that regard.

JamareeJun 20, 201810 votes

We know it does, just since people have games where they report and said people aren't immediately punished, people say it doesn't.

CaveslothJun 20, 20181 votes

Which they could easily fix by making every player who reported someone get a notice when they get punished and suddenly people would have confidence in the system. But they won't because "reasons".

TegashJun 20, 20181 votes

They don't want people to be able to reverse engineer the system. Because apparently that helps people avoid bans? Idk.

"If you know what the rules are, you'll be able to follow them!" Uhhhh

JamareeJun 20, 20181 votes

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Which they could easily fix by making every player who reported someone get a notice when they get punished and suddenly people would have confidence in the system. But they won't because "reasons".

But they do, that literally already is a thing just not everyone who you report doesn’t get punished because they don’t do it every game?

BEST MEAT BALLSJun 20, 20188 votes

you just participated in punishing one of the flamers... thank you

RAINBOW GUMDROPSJun 20, 20185 votes

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DuskDaUmbreonJun 20, 20184 votes

Sorry, I'm incredibly toxic, and need to bash on you for pointing out that this guy was a complete jackass just because I fucked up once, because it helps me cope with the myriad of issues that I have.

Translated for everyone else. You're welcome :3

French CourtesanJun 20, 20182 votes

Your translation is rather garbage. I think he meant to say : Stop complaining about toxic people and start muting them instead of making forum posts about it. No one cares about your hurt feelings and if you expect people to treat you nicely in fucking competetive game, you should honestly uninstall.

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20184 votes

Pretty sure that Dusk was making a joke. It may have been pointed, but it's obviously making fun of someone's abusive attitude.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20181 votes

Nah im pretty sure that he was being toxic just like any other player. But instead of attacking someone who got hurt he attacked someone who "hurts" people on the internet.

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20184 votes

It's morally grey, but to be completely honest he's just saying what a lot of people are thinking. Someone who talks down to people, especially when they did nothing wrong, doesn't deserve a whole lot of respect.

Why are you defending someone who mistreated the OP?

CaveslothJun 20, 20181 votes

If you read his other posts he seems to genuinely believe that by being an asshole to people he is making them stronger. While there is a case to be made for this in real life, people come to games and online communities like this to escape that very thing, and end up committing suicide or shooting a up a school when the escape doesn't work.

HalcyonDwellerJun 21, 20181 votes

People who need games as an outlet and who can't play nice with others have single player / coop vs ai type games that they can play and get their frustrations out without hurting other people. They aren't welcome to just take their problems out on their fellow players here in league.

Sink With MeJun 20, 20184 votes

So instead of muting this said player, you decided (DECIDED) to let him flame you just so you could see his account banned? This sounds like a personal problem buddy, I dont think you should be enjoying a flame session.

Lost RJun 20, 201813 votes

He decided to run his own mouth, and it would have happened regardless.

I didn't swing the axe. He picked it up and beheaded himself of his own accord.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20182 votes

You deliberately did not mute him, this says a lot about your intentions. And even making post about it is even more ironic.

Quiet DudeJun 20, 20184 votes

No one has to mute anyone. If you’re gonna be a shitbozo in game, no one needs to mute you. You can still be reported, though. Muting changes nothing.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20182 votes

The fact that instead of solving the issue he deliberately decided not to fix it for 2 clicks, says something

Quiet DudeJun 20, 20184 votes

Sounds like he did solve the issue. He reported that guy and got the dudes account sent to the phantom zone

CaveslothJun 20, 20181 votes

^ Guy has a point.

ArammusJun 20, 20181 votes

i have no idea why he should mute that guy. i had games where someone was flameing in champ select and continued to flame ingame. not even 2min into the game i muted them. at the fucking 70 minute mark (THE 70 MINUTE MARK!!!) we just aced the enemy and are about to end the game. i unmute said person and see that he is STILL flameing towards me.

so yea i dont see why you give Lost R shit because he didnt mute some dickface.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20181 votes

THE IDEA IS NOT UNMUTING HIM. HOW ARE PEOPLE SO DUMB. You arent going to solve toxicity in game by banning people. THIS IS PVP COMPETETIVE ONLY GAME. OF COURSE THERE ARE TOXIC PEOPLE. Mute button isnt a tool that suddenly makes toxic people stop being toxic. Its for people, who just want to play the game, to not deal with this shit. This is why everyone sees you like cry babies. This game gives you opportunity to not get harassed and yet you choose to be harassed yourselves. WTF is that logic?

ninjaroxasJun 21, 20182 votes

So it's ok for them to be an asshole because people can mute them and people are cry babies because they don't like people being assholes? What kind of logic is that?

Warlord ScrapJun 21, 20181 votes

Heres the problem. Im helping a rl friend level. Not counting the tutorial havenr personally done it yet but i hear its better than it was. Its a shit show. Banning players doesnt do shit its a f2p game. And pre 30 is just a fuckton of people playing on new accounts and they got banned.

Riot should just tell people to grow up and use the mute button. Or at least not allow people who didnt mute to be allowed to report. This is called a duty to retreat law in the real world. So yes there is real world precedence.

ArammusJun 21, 20181 votes

yea and in a competetive game i want ppl to give their best. and not spent 80% of the game with standing around because they are going full keyboard warrior.

Lost RJun 20, 20181 votes

I have the strange ability to invoke a kind of hatred in people that is beyond Ahabian. All things considered, his hatred is quite milquetoast compared to what I'm used to.

WimbledofyJun 20, 20182 votes

what you said doesn't even make sense. He was going to report him no matter what whether he muted him or not. Muting somebody doesn't stop their flame. If you mute someone at the start of the game after them saying 1 toxic thing, and they say 100 more things like that, and you report them, that doesn't mean the system didn't see their 100 other messages.

Quiet DudeJun 20, 20183 votes

I love watching some dude unravel in chat. He’s throwing his account out the window by opting to be a toxic dingleberry. Getting those miserable fuckers banned is a guilty pleasure.

Lost RJun 20, 20182 votes

I'm enough of a sadist against the wicked that I feel no guilt from it.

Quiet DudeJun 20, 20182 votes

Technically I don’t feel guilty about it either. I just like telling people it’s a “guilty pleasure” because I want them to think when it happens to them, I sort of feel bad but I don’t- and it’s thrilling

[sg-syndra]

ZaFishboneJun 20, 20183 votes

I reported someone in my game for telling me "kys" and a bit of other toxicity two days ago. I checked their op.gg today and guess what? They are still playing games just fine. And here I thought that telling ppl kys was a zero tolerance offense. People say that the report system doesn't work because, through live observation, many ppl have realised that less than 1% of the times they have reported someone have had any effect.

Sorin AlucardJun 20, 20182 votes

All you saw was one instance. Trust me for everything else it should be handling its either slow af or it doesn't happen. Someone posted a profile of someone who trolled 48 games and didn't get punished.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20182 votes

Because riot doesnt punish trolls. They only punish people who say mean things to soyboys maining supports.

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20183 votes

That is incorrect. They definitely do ban people who troll. We see proof of it at least once a month here on the boards when one of the banned trolls comes to the boards saying "I got banned but I'm innocent" thinking they can get away with tricking the community into being outraged at Riot. Then Tantram comes in with the proof and we see that the person was lying about their innocence and they simply got shown a chat log even though their gameplay behavior that game is what got them banned.

KingKazooJun 20, 20182 votes

please please please. Show evidence of these posts I'd love to read them. I can bet large amounts of money you can't provide them or you interpret it as actually trolls when they aren't they're just more mild flamers.

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20183 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/NA/Riot%20Tantram

Go back through his comment history, there are several cases he responded to a while back.

KingKazooJun 20, 20181 votes

who is he ? Tantram ? is he a riot employee ?

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20183 votes

Yeah, he is. Or was. He was head of development for some (or maybe all) of the player behavior systems. I don't know what he does currently because his exposure on the boards lately has been limited.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20182 votes

Dude there are people streaming their trolling there are youtubers making videos and only after those videos literally get hunderds of thousands of views, only then rito decides to do anything. Because noone is reviewing the games manually anymore. There are only chat bots looking for mean words. going 0 11 as jungler? totaly fine. TRoll picking double top in draft pick because you got support and you dont like it. Also fine. Telling person that trollpicked that draft pick game that he is fucking retard? Banned. FUCKING BANNED FOR 2 WEEKS. This person, is still playing the fucking game.

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20182 votes

Links or no cake. It's possible to get the impression that something is the case without ever determining if it is actually true, that's how people up the food chain manipulate public opinion on a nationwide or even worldwide scale. You could easily have built up a confirmation bias about it, so find untampered evidence that proves your claims or stop spreading those claim around until you do. If you don't know if its true or not then you're running the risk of swaying public opinion without actually being in control of it.
Just because somebody does something you disapprove of does not mean they are trolling. Your disapproval is not what the definition of trolling hinges on. Trolling or griefing comes from trying to piss you off and ruin the game for you. If someone genuinely believes that what they are doing is a way to win the game and they're doing it because it will be fun to play then it's absolutely not the same as trolling.

French CourtesanJun 20, 20181 votes

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Links or no cake. It's possible to get the impression that something is the case without ever determining if it is actually true, that's how people up the food chain manipulate public opinion on a nationwide or even worldwide scale. You could easily have built up a confirmation bias about it, so find untampered evidence that proves your claims or stop spreading those claim around until you do. If you don't know if its true or not then you're running the risk of swaying public opinion without actually being in control of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNqqghH-gEE

But honestly since you dont even know about it, it only shows how clueless new player base is.

Just because somebody does something you disapprove of does not mean they are trolling.

Im pretty sure that troll picking DRAFT PICK A DRAFT PICK, is considered trolling among most of sane playerbase but what ever

Your disapproval is not what the definition of trolling hinges on. Trolling or griefing comes from trying to piss you off and ruin the game for you.

Thats exactly what im refering to but I guess reading is too hard nowadays.

If someone genuinely believes that what they are doing is a way to win the game and they're doing it because it will be fun to play then it's absolutely not the same as trolling.

I genuinely believe that being toxic is going to make players play better. So I should not be punished either. Also If someone trollpicks draft pick and then goes duo top lane with someone that isnt premade, you bet that they are both going to have fun.

HalcyonDwellerJun 20, 20183 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNqqghH-gEE

I'm familiar with that case. It was on the Korean servers, which are already notorious for not handling things well. They are run differently from NA and EU servers though, so the example doesn't really apply to our own regions.

But honestly since you dont even know about it, it only shows how clueless new player base is.

Excuse me? I've been playing this game since Season 1, be careful who you talk down to. You might just wind up looking bad.

Im pretty sure that troll picking DRAFT PICK A DRAFT PICK, is considered trolling among most of sane playerbase but what ever

Thats exactly what im refering to but I guess reading is too hard nowadays.

Maybe we're talking about different things. Maybe it would help me to understand what you're talking about if you gave some personal examples. if you're willing to share, I'm open to discussing them.

I genuinely believe that being toxic is going to make players play better. So I should not be punished either. Also If someone trollpicks draft pick and then goes duo top lane with someone that isnt premade, you bet that they are both going to have fun.

I understand your point of view regarding this. I do not agree with it, but I understand it.

ArammusJun 20, 20182 votes

i think the chat system is almost perfect. the fact that i just cant stand about is that riot doesnt give us an option. i ALWAYS want to see a notification if my report got a player punished within the last 24 hours. but right now its like a 1% chance that i get that notification.

and that sucks. i feel like my reports do nothing. i want to see it! its literally a great system riot has (for chat), but they dont let us see it. its such a rare chance. its literally riot that makes players think their reports are useless and they are helpless. literally riot themselfes do this. which i just dont understand.

CaveslothJun 20, 20181 votes

When asked about why they don't do it they give lame reasons that are easily shot down, its sad. It'd be so easy to give people confidence in the system and it'd worlds of good toward eliminating toxicity.

TempistJun 21, 20181 votes

No one denies that it works for stuff people say in chat. What people complain about is that it is utterly useless for trolling and inting, and can't even catch the blatantly obvious stuff.

Lost RJun 21, 20182 votes

Ultimately it is far easier to scan what people say and punish them for dropping N-bombs. Intentionally feeding is a tricky situation because it has to tell the difference between griefers, people who are getting shat on by the enemy, and who are just plain old having a bad day. The system requires a lot of nuance so the wrong people don't get banned; that causes it to be extraordinarily lenient.