Premade of 3 ruined my game

The Deckowner·Apr 6, 2016·1 votes·485 views

So I had this game , and I had a premade in my team and . they never spoke to the 2 solo players(me included) in game but we found out they are premade because their club tag. feeds 1/12/8 with full ad build, flashing into enemy team whenever she has a chance and gets instantly deleted. The support and I asked and to report for feeding. They refused because they are a premade. (checked 's history, first time playing this champ, and it's a ranked game)

So I guess Trolling/Feeding intentionally is OK in ranked game for their premade teammates.

But what about the solo players who had their game ruined?

19 Comments

jpguy902Apr 6, 20163 votes

Its probably not intentional if its their first time playing that champ. Also its against the rules to ask other players to report someone and multiple reports for one game doesn't matter. So if you think their actions warrant a report, do it yourself and move on, nothing more needs to be said.

The DeckownerApr 6, 20161 votes

but playing a champion for the first time in a ranked game and builds against the recommanded build path of the champion is considered trolling by common sense.

ZerfallenApr 6, 20163 votes

playing a champion for the first time in a ranked game

Not a recommended choice, but also not a reportable action in and of itself.

builds against the recommanded build path of the champion is considered trolling

No, in that case, the vast majority of players would be very much in trouble o.o

Also; If they were feeding/flaming/being toxic, mute them, if needed, then report them and move on.

Calling for reports is a reportable offense. It is, also, unnecessary because your** singular **report will trigger the system to review the match.

entitledplayerApr 6, 20161 votes

{quoted} Also; If they were feeding/flaming/being toxic, mute them, if needed, then report them and move on. Reporting them is the start, f12'ing the trolling behavior so that by human review, it can be seen as irregular and wrong is better.

Calling for reports is a reportable offense.

No. Calling for reports for/on a player isn't reportable -- threatening them with reports is.

Large difference.

Otherwise, enemies asking for the opposite side to report a troll whose actions can physically be seen is wrong and deserved to catch a charge.

ErdrikApr 6, 20162 votes

No. Calling for reports for/on a player isn't reportable -- threatening them with reports is.

First of all, literally anything is reportable. The issue is whether or not it is punishable.

Secondly, Report calling and begging is considered toxic. Even if its not a threat.

Its kinda old but here are two quotes from Riot Lyte that imply report begging is considered toxic.

RiotLyte Reddit Post 1 "...and asking other players to report somebody which is frustrating a lot of players in the game..."

RiotLyte Reddit Post 2 "...Rallying other players to help report someone really isn't doing anything except making the experience worse for others..."

He isn't directly saying its against the rules, but he is saying it "frustrates players", and makes the "experience worse for others". And in the first link, he even directly says to:

"Just mute the toxic player, report them, and keep playing."

Report calling and begging doesn't do anything that simply silently reporting will do on its own. And because it worsens the experience, and frustrates players on top of doing nothing good, it is considered toxic.

And toxic actions are punishable.

entitledplayerApr 6, 20161 votes

Touché.

ZerfallenApr 6, 20161 votes

Thank you for making my comment clearer.

It seems that my wording choice was a bit too ambiguous and open to interpretation.

jpguy902Apr 6, 20161 votes

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but playing a champion for the first time in a ranked game and builds against the recommanded build path of the champion is considered trolling by common sense.

Going off meta isnt trolling. I play top taric and buying the recommended items would be bad for him. People are allowed to try new builds, even if its a ranked game.

The DeckownerApr 6, 20161 votes

taric is a top/support tank/fighter how is playing him top trolling

jpguy902Apr 6, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wEt8jpbQ,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-06T15:19:12.234+0000)

taric is a top/support tank/fighter how is playing him top trolling

I dont think thats what most of community sees him as. Ive definitely been flamed at the start of the match for taking him jungle or top. Their tune seems to change though after they see the results. Outrageous. ;) Taric

The DeckownerApr 7, 20161 votes

People called me trolling when i played maokai jg in s5, a lot people have no common sense

LintheApr 6, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wEt8jpbQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-04-06T03:13:50.399+0000)

but playing a champion for the first time in a ranked game and builds against the recommanded build path of the champion is considered trolling by common sense.

Only none of that is punishable...

ErdrikApr 6, 20162 votes

Based on what you've posted, the offense is not intentional feeding. The offense is playing a "1st time played" champ in ranked.

Could you provide more info? Like the Illaoi 's item build with time stamps?

The DeckownerApr 6, 20162 votes

she rushed a titanic hydra, then a black cleaver, then mercury thread, and at the end she brought a piece of warden mill(not sure if that is the name, but the item that build into frozen.heart.)

ErdrikApr 6, 20162 votes

item 3748 3700 item 3071 3500 item 3111 1100 item 3082 1000

9300 in items. This makes it less likely to be intentional. Im more confident now, it was probably a "1st time played" champ in ranked offense.

BettnachlegerApr 6, 20161 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2125481141/227568835?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2143321331/227568835?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2126711218/227568835?tab=overview

I know that you are doing well .. most of the time. But from time to time, even you have a bad game. Seriously, shit happens :-) Grab a beer or some popcorn [slayer-pantheon-popcorn] And calm down

I got fired today. You see me complaining about this meaningless empty life shit blaa? Nope ... I have beer ...

The DeckownerApr 6, 20161 votes

u know what is more shit? i cant even have beer

BettnachlegerApr 6, 20161 votes

ah okay, sorry. Wtf, you have to be 21 to get beer ;-( Okay, then take some popcorn.

Kei143Apr 6, 20161 votes

Lets have you understand the reporting system a bit.

There is no point to ask for others to report another player as 9 reports in a game is the same as 1 report in a game.

Everytime there is a report, it just flags the system to check the account for vulgar speech, hate speech, toxicity etc etc. Only if the system finds negative behavior, that report will be counted as valid. You'll need a bunch of valid reports against a person to prove that their behaivor is consistant and will then be punished.

Phishing for report can be counted as harassment against you

Most people respond negatively when they hear they are getting reported. It puts them in a negative mood and they make even worse decisions.

Being bad is not a punishable offense.

Trolling / intentional feeding is having the purpose to ruin other's game. When you suck (maybe playing against better players and getting stomped). Yes, you can report them, but that would be counted as a false report. Plus when you are doing bad and people call you a feeder / and are reporting you, you'll probably perform even worse.

Eitherway, this is a consolitated post of a few things about the system. Make sure to check it out. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/tvviuURj-multiple-reports-and-other-misconceptions