Why does it take dozens of games to finally ban people who run down lane and AFK at tower?

Resolution·Jul 16, 2017·1 votes·545 views

The system clearly does not work if a player can;

A) Not play in the lane they were assigned. B) Intentionally AFK in front of the enemy tower after each spawn.

Only to see they've done this over multiple games with 0 penalties so far.

There are 4 other team mates that all have to suffer (While losing LP) from someone intentionally trying to make you loose for laughs. I've seen multiple posts now of players getting away with this for ages.

Everywhere I look Leagues just a meme on gaming websites for salt and "cancer". That's normally a sign there's a problem especially when you're famous for how toxic your community is. I've been playing since 2011 and it's actually getting worse somehow...

13 Comments

BLACK REALM GODJul 17, 20173 votes

title - it doesnt.

ResolutionJul 17, 20171 votes

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title - it doesnt.

Your joking right. There's a youtube video of a guy testing how long it takes to get banned running down mid; while posting positive things in chat like (Sorry I'm lagging, or don't worry we can still win). It took roughly 30 games before he got banned. The automated system just registers them as "Having a bad game" even though there dancing in front of the enemy tower.

Not to mention the multiple other players/threads of people going dozenes of games with 0 infractions. There's multiple sources to back this up.

BLACK REALM GODJul 17, 20171 votes

if you submit a ticket to riot support with the link to their facebook/youtube page they'll get banned immediately.

Scary DoorJul 17, 20171 votes

Oh, I assure you it does. I have several players in my browser's bookmarks that have been doing this for months.

They don't do it every single game, but certainly about one-out-of-five games or so they absolutely int. Some of these players I have been tracking for almost ten months and they are not yet banned.

You really shouldn't speak so definitively when there is evidence to the contrary.

BLACK REALM GODJul 17, 20171 votes

take that evidence and submit it to riot support. all they need is solid proof. like a video of tower intentional feeding or afk dancing

This Is Your DadJul 16, 20171 votes

I played a co op vs ai game yesterday before bed and there were 3 new level 1-3 accounts playing. All of them were smurfs that got permabanned for toxicity, and oh my god were they toxic. They were using hate speech and shit talking over getting mid lane in a co op vs ai game. I mean wtf. You can play riven adc and still go 15/0 in a bot game. They haven't changed, and in fact they've become bitter over being banned, and have decided to smurf to 30 and troll games on purpose to get back at riot.

FKOoSrXpqVJul 17, 20171 votes

because riot only bans for chat logs. my friend has been afk in over 100 games allready and all he got is low priority Q matches sometimes 2-3 sometimes 8-10 depending on how much games he was afk.

ResolutionJul 17, 20171 votes

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because riot only bans for chat logs. my friend has been afk in over 100 games allready and all he got is low priority Q matches sometimes 2-3 sometimes 8-10 depending on how much games he was afk.

That's the issue - Average game 25 minutes and there are four other players. Roughly an hour of players time is ruined each time someone does this and it can happen dozens of times before something happens. Why should it take roughly 20-30+ hours of toxicity or negative experiences for players before Riots like oh... guess there a problem.

JorenciceJul 17, 20171 votes

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That's the issue - Average game 25 minutes and there are four other players. Roughly an hour of players time is ruined each time someone does this and it can happen dozens of times before something happens. Why should it take roughly 20-30+ hours of toxicity or negative experiences for players before Riots like oh... guess there a problem.

Your talking about some kind of god system that doesn't exist.

You keep mentioning dancing.

Should a riot employee have to manually watch every game dancing was done just in case it was trolling?

Or should it just perma ban anyone that loses 10 games I a row?

Or anyone that gets a negative kda?

ResolutionJul 18, 20171 votes

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Your talking about some kind of god system that doesn't exist.

You keep mentioning dancing.

Should a riot employee have to manually watch every game dancing was done just in case it was trolling?

Or should it just perma ban anyone that loses 10 games I a row?

Or anyone that gets a negative kda?

Has nothing with negative KDA. I'm perfectly fine with people having bad games; it's the players who have 0 intention of actually playing other than running it down mid. There has to be a way to detect multiple tower suicides in one game, especially when match history already records death locations and times.

KVbqbFsC8eJul 17, 20171 votes

Riots automated system has trouble detecting those sorts of things. Not to mention it is extremely lenient to protect people who may be having "just a bad game".

kaellidorJul 17, 20171 votes

ikr I think they need to IP ban those once they do catch them though with like replay evidence and stuff.

SEKAIJul 17, 20171 votes

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ikr I think they need to IP ban those once they do catch them though with like replay evidence and stuff.

IP ban won't work, because a person can change their IP quite easily.

That and, handing out IP bans means you're banning every machines within the same internal network, as outside machines can only see the network's external address as opposed to all the individual machines within its internal connection. So have fun seeing the entire internet cafe, school dorms, college, group rentals or any family household with more than 1 league players in them all banned because 1 guy in there was the subject of punishment. In the same vein, the IP-banned is completely unscathed if they were using another machine at the time, such as in the internet cafe, using another person's computer such as in the friend's house, or that they own more than 1 machines which some people do (1 desktop + 1 laptop seems to be common).

And again I'll stress once more, IP is also very easily changed. You only need to play around with command line and some settings.

All in all, IP banning is meaningless. Just ban the account itself should do.