Riot, why did you implement ARAM surrenders?
Before, you could not surrender ARAM before the 15? or 12? minute mark. Which made sense, since ARAM to my experience is not quite predictable as Classic. I've won 4v5s. (A lot of those, a lot of afkers) I've won games in which we were losing badly and we turned it around. A lot of really epic action-packed games on ARAM. You have passive experience and gold, so unlike with Classic, where early game dictates who snowballs or not, it is a toss up, it's really goes either way and there are some hard fought battles.
ARAM games are 15-20 minutes, (25 minutes at most), and queuing is about 1-2 minutes, or 5-10 minutes. When someone surrenders, that means the entire game is ruined, I've wasted maybe 5 minutes + queue time of 5-10 minutes, and if I only had 25 minutes to play a single game that day, and I happened to choose ARAM league, well, there goes my 25 minutes of free time. I actually can get enjoyment out of battles fought to the end ,especially with ARAM where you can win. I am sick and tired of people calling for early surrender on winnable ARAM games, then throwing the game later. We had a flood of people like this from Classic, last February, and I cannot stand them infecting this pretty non toxic, casual, fun game mode. I can accept this kind of assholery in classic, where things snowball. But not in my casual game mode, no.
At most, people should be able to surrender after 15 minutes, because that is when an ARAM game has extended, and although there is a chance of winning, it's reasonable to assume that maybe someone only had 20 minutes to play video games and has to go do IRL stuff now.
But surrendering at 5 minutes?! really?! over and over again?! Why is this even implemented? This is a waste of my time. These early surrender assholes always say we are wasting THEIR time, but we aren't--- they've wasted 25 minutes of my time that I cannot get back again. THEY actually have time to play another game. And then they keep surrendering over and over again. Since when is this a thing?! Why is this even a thing in ARAM?! How does this even make sense?!
I previously suggested two separate queues so we don't have to deal with each other, the early surrenders can go waste each others time by surrendering at 3 minutes or what have you, and the rest of us who enjoy hard fought battles and the only thing that can ruin it for us is toxic assholes verbally abusing their team and throwing cuz they are QQing they didn't do great early or people who constantly surrender over and over and over again and try to convince the team to give up can go enjoy good fights together. I mean, I know that a person like me ruins the enjoyment of these wimps-- I mean, early surrenderers. Sorry, my salt is showing. This is how you lost all of your friendly players, Riot. Because you cater to these assholes. I tried to introduce some friends of mine to the game, and they quit immediately because the community got worse from when I was starting out playing- people being verbally abusive on the lower levels when they had no need to be. (Is it any better nowadays? >_>) TBH, Riot, if you hadn't implemented early surrender on ARAM, Mao would probably have complained and then AFK'd, the 4 of us would have carried and fought our battle, and we all would have generally had a better time of it, the chat would be chill, Mao would go do something else, and we would all have had fun. (played several games with an afk, it was fun, we all had fun). Instead, Mao forces assholery on us, wastes THEIR time and energy salting all over the game trying to convince us to surrender which is probably miserable, part of us go on tilt and become miserable (because, early surrenderers in ARAM, gtfo this casual silly game mode and let me enjoy it. There is NO reason to surrender on ARAM except to annoy your teammates None. Unless you are like, 2v5 or something and even then you guys prolly banter a lil with enemy team and let them end, go do something else.) and the rest of the team becomes miserable because the situation makes them uncomfortable (understandable). IN fact, mostly aram surrenders are mostly abused to annoy one's teammates, or to protest if we aren't doing well, or as a joke. I think for all of my ARAM games I have never if rarely seen anytimes surrender was worthwhile except with afks or after the 12 minute mark because it may be taking longer than someone is willing to play. Early surrender ruined 5 people's enjoyment of a game. ARAM is a casual game mode that lasts 15 minutes, why surrender? Queue is long enough that losing that time is not worth it at all. (5 minute queue + 5 minute game + 10 minute queue + 20 minute ARAM = 40 minutes one may not have-- if I had this kind of time, I would be playing Classic, not ARAM.) vs. (5 minute queue + 20 minute game = 25 minutes of enjoyment, and this would be perfect if one only has 30 minutes to play.)
I want to put the caveat, that although I never get salty about games, I am actually salty this time. This has been the first time I am truly salty since I reinstalled, found the community met my standards of manageable level of assholery versus the toxicity that caused me to quit the first time. So, take my salty opinion with your own judgement and grain of salt (lol). I am aware that I am salting. It is the middle of the night, I just wanted a fun, casual ARAM game. When I'm awake I can be all politic and nice and lovely about it, but at 3am wake up insomnia to relax and go back to sleep I have no. more. patience.
All of us would probably have been happier if Mao had just AFK'd instead of trying to get us to give up over and over again. (Because I do not care if someone plays good or bad, I believe in the existence of outplays over ints, and the best games are good fights.) Someone convince me the league community has gotten a little better and I shouldn't just uninstall due to toxicity. (I know that at least the chat has gotten mildly less bad). I'm also prepared for people rightfully calling me out for my salt :P.
I also miss Dominion, cuz that was a fun casual quick game mode to test out new champions. But I know the devs hate it and got rid of it. :(. But if you kept it I would still have fans. Please bring it back Riot! If these assholes are infecting ARAM too, at least bring back Dominion so SOMEWHERE in the League community are a bunch of friendly people who like fights instead of these immature wimps. ARAM and Dominion was my -enjoy-league-of-legends-gameplay-without-having-to-deal-much-with-toxic-surrenderoverandover-idiots, and Dominion was so fun I didn't even care about those guys. AND the best custom game mode was a dominion thing, can't play it properly in the SR map. Can't we have one corner of League not infected by these folks?
Also Twisted Treeline has been taken over by bots. It's a lot more boring than dominion but shrug. Thought you ought to know.
Anyway, what is your opinion on this? Agree early surrender in ARAM should be nixed? Convince me, is there any reason why someone should surrender early on ARAM? (the only thing I can think of is IRL things & afk, but that takes 5 people to agree about the IRL thing- and it's abused, and at this point since afk on ARAM is more common I keep winning and playing 4v5s and still having a decent amount of fun for my 15-20 minutes spare)
This did NOT need to be my last game before I went back to sleep >_>. But I'm too exhausted and angry and upset to play another.