Can riot actually admit what they're doing

scazzman·Mar 20, 2017·7 votes·955 views

Lets face it. Riot has fallen into the trap that many other multiplayer games have.

They are catering to kids.

The reason they are targeting chat offenses over trolls, is because a parent having their kid tell them. "Some guy intentionally threw my ranked game" is going to be met with a different respnse then " mom, what's a ni**er?"

Also. Riot has the philosophy of " letting tbe community decide whats acceptable behavior " which basically translates to "you can do whatever ypu want, as long as you're the majority. " and kids don't want someone telling them how to play, and dont care about rank so they're more than willing to throw a game just to prove a point "

28 Comments

AeroWaffleMar 20, 20178 votes

27 here. Still don't want assholes in my game. And Riot does ban trolls, when they can catch them and can be reasonably sure that they are a troll.

Detecting if someone is being an asshole in chat is much easier.

You don't ignore one problem just because a different problem is harder to solve.

DynikusMar 20, 20176 votes

Just so you know, anything you would say to get chat restricted in game could also probably get you in trouble if you said it to your boss at work. Is the average workplace catering to children too? It's also a lot easier to catch chat offenses than it is trolling.

KVbqbFsC8eMar 20, 20171 votes

I wouldn't go that far. The average workplace isn't going to fire you if someone performed a job very poorly and you said as much.

DynikusMar 20, 20177 votes

It depends entirely how you say it, same as league.

KVbqbFsC8eMar 20, 20171 votes

Its not like that in League at all, especially since an automated system is in place. You either said something, or you didn't.

DynikusMar 20, 20177 votes

That's not true at all. You can tell someone they messed up without being toxic.

Warlord ScrapMar 20, 20171 votes

Not really anymore because ive seen chat logs and people say its passive agressive.

KVbqbFsC8eMar 20, 20172 votes

Of course you can, but the problem is the community believes that anything they do not like to hear is "toxicity".

MrHaZeYoMar 20, 20171 votes

Idk why your downvoted, what you said is the truth lol.

Me: Thresh ward Baron Thresh: Don't tell me what to do

Enemy team gets Baron

Me: That's why I told you to ward baron Thresh: Report Ahri for being toxic

Like wtf lol.

HexaDecimelMar 20, 20171 votes

But that's Dynikus' point.......if that is how you said it then you have nothing to worry about. You weren't toxic and the Thresh's report will be thrown out as a false report.

Its always important how you word things. Now if you got into an argument with the Thresh then his report would probably become valid.

eldurisMar 20, 20174 votes

You know, majority rules in democracy too. Are you saying that's a bad thing? Would you rather have the government (Riot in this example) rule with an iron fist and determine for themselves what is acceptable and what isn't? People are quick to decry the community for being "sensitive" but very few have the forethought to think about what the alternative means.

KORGtunersMar 20, 20172 votes

“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” ― Winston S. Churchill

"The majority is never right. Never, I tell you! That's one of these lies in society that no free and intelligent man can help rebelling against. Who are the people that make up the biggest proportion of the population -- the intelligent ones or the fools? I think we can agree it's the fools, no matter where you go in this world, it's the fools that form the overwhelming majority. " Henrik Ibsen

Warlord ScrapMar 20, 20171 votes

Yor know americas not a democracy right. Also do you realize democracies fail because of the fundamental flaw of majority rule.

BettnachlegerMar 20, 20171 votes

Even if you're a fool, you know how do you would like to be treated by others. And you don't have to be a fucking genius to know how to behave, nor do you have to reach a specific age for that or what ever ...

Btw. the majority don't want to murder someone nor want they get murdered. WOW, THE MAJORITY IS SO FUCKING DUMB, THEY MUST BE WRONG, LETS MURDER ALL OF THEM!

Edit: The funny thing is, you're one of these mentioned fools from the second quote ;^)

KORGtunersMar 20, 20171 votes

How about you go bitch at Winston Churchill and Henrick Ibsen. I didn't make the quotes.

BettnachlegerMar 21, 20173 votes

But you quoted them for a reason?! Don't quote if you don't stand behind the statement ...

KORGtunersMar 21, 20171 votes

I didn't quote them, I copy pasted from Google.

The reason was to play devils advocate. You know, hear all the sides of a debate. Not just suck arbiters dicks all day.

BettnachlegerMar 21, 20171 votes

I didn't quote them, I copy pasted from Google.

.... That's how a quote quote work lol. You take what someone said and use it yourself. (in a discussion or what ever) Sry for spoiling that, I bet in 2 or 3 years you reach the 4 class and a teacher would tell you ;^)

The reason was to play devils advocate. You know, hear all the sides of a debate. Not just suck arbiters dicks all day.

That doesn't make any sense.

KORGtunersMar 21, 20171 votes

Edit: The funny thing is, you're one of these mentioned fools from the second quote ;^)

EvilDustManMar 20, 20172 votes

It's true, I saw Riot say this in an interview.

IN BIZARRO WORLD

go home scazzman

Finn Teh HumanMar 20, 20171 votes

People do get banned for trolling. And I don't know if you've watched the boards over the past few weeks but there have been 2 different trolls (int feeding/running it mid) who have been banned because people screen shotted lobby and posted it (blurring out name, but sending the none blurred one to Riot through ticket.) Every elo has its trolls. Looking at your match history some people might even say you're a troll. And in case you haven't noticed, the majority of the community has voted against trolls and spoken up about them. I personally don't care if someone wants to have fun in normals.

scazzmanMar 20, 20171 votes

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People do get banned for trolling. And I don't know if you've watched the boards over the past few weeks but there have been 2 different trolls (int feeding/running it mid) who have been banned because people screen shotted lobby and posted it (blurring out name, but sending the none blurred one to Riot through ticket.) Every elo has its trolls. Looking at your match history some people might even say you're a troll. And in case you haven't noticed, the majority of the community has voted against trolls and spoken up about them. I personally don't care if someone wants to have fun in normals.

How am i a troll based on my match history?

Finn Teh HumanMar 20, 20171 votes

First you seem to take cleanse on support in about half of your games. You always take Stoneborn pact on Soraka which isn't nearly as good as Windspeakers on her. And I see in the games that ended quicker you bought corrupting potion on support which is an extra 500g you're kinda blowing on second back instead of starting an item.

scazzmanMar 20, 20171 votes

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First you seem to take cleanse on support in about half of your games. You always take Stoneborn pact on Soraka which isn't nearly as good as Windspeakers on her. And I see in the games that ended quicker you bought corrupting potion on support which is an extra 500g you're kinda blowing on second back instead of starting an item.

I take cleanse when dealing with cc heavy team comps or any support with a pull . And if you notice my build order. I start spellthiefs refillable. And build corrupting potion later. As for stoneborn pact. It's because im building warmogs raka

Finn Teh HumanMar 20, 20171 votes

Lol....

KORGtunersMar 20, 20171 votes