Is "Re-roll into random Champion Permanent" guaranteed to be something I don't already have?

Eeyore··5 votes·59,018 views

... or is it true random?

I own every champion. I have no need to Blue Essence. The only need I have of Champion Shards is if re-rolling them is guaranteed to get me a champion I do not own - in which case, I can just save up three shards for the new champion.

Otherwise - why am I getting Champion Shards? I had gotten lucky up to now and only gotten cosmetic shards - and I assumed it was intentional.

P.S. Champion Mastery is a player behavior system, isn't it? Promoting playing with friends, etc.

23 Comments

Tysmin9 votes

Yes Anytime you reroll something it is Garen -teed to be something you do not currently own

Ward Baron2 votes

100% not true, if there are no champs for you get and you reroll you will just waste 3 to get 1 that you already have. Same with skins. Happen to me before I realized I couldn't get rare skins and riot pretty much told me thanks for buying those chests and turning $3 into $1

Tysmin1 votes

I guess if you have 100% of everything I guess you cannot get anymore.

Ward Baron2 votes

There are no champs or skins I can buy in the store but there are rare skins I don't like Riot Squad Singed and before I read the fine print I just thought that meant I finally had a chance at those. Knowing that I wouldn't of bothered but this system offers nothing to something like me right now and Riot never says thanks for spending $5k on our game here's a lil something. There are some ward skins I don't have doe.

Gay Idiot Man1 votes

you fucking spent $5000 on this game??

thats not right dude, league is good and all but $5k????? Jesus christ you got problems

69xxpaybackxx693 votes

well maybe he's rich as fuck and doesn't know what to spend money on xd

Farqad41 votes

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you fucking spent $5000 on this game??

thats not right dude, league is good and all but $5k????? Jesus christ you got problems

the fact that these game companies are able to make 5k on a game, while Nintendo sony and Microsoft only get 60 maybe 100 from dlc per game per player, is disgusting. riot why dont you make more awesome games lol where we dont hve to spend hundreds on just the champs

SorenLarsen3 votes

No one forces you to buy anything though? I've played League of Legends since it came out and never spent any money on it. That's the beauty of a game like this, you can't buy your way to a better win chance.

DonkeyBalls1 votes

At least this game is quality. You wouldn't even believe how much some people spend on crappy mobile games to play on their phones. It's unreal.

TrulyBland3 votes

Yes-ish. If you have all champions and are stupid enough to go "Hmm, I wonder what will happen" and reroll them, it's really just a random champion permanent that then lingers in your crafting inventory to always remind you of your own stupidity.

That happened to... um... a friend of mine.

PaladinNO1 votes

If you have all champions and are stupid enough to go "Hmm, I wonder what will happen" and reroll them, it's really just a random champion permanent that then lingers in your crafting inventory to always remind you of your own stupidity.

And now, one year later, that is still not fixed.

Tried rerolling 3 random champion shards into Xayah / Rakan moments before their release...

Rerolling Reroll three similar types of loot into permanent loot of the same type (for example, reroll three different champion shards into a permanent champion guaranteed not to be a duplicate of one you own).

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/champion-mastery.html

Support gave me a load of their usual rubbish, taking 0 responsibility for flaws with the client, and even had the audacity to claim there was nothing they could do. Well, at least they are right there - there really IS nothing they are good for.

There was no error message to give in fact. Players are actually able to reroll shards if they want to, for whatever reason, even if they own all champions already. The reason you didn't get any of the new champions was because they were not available yet, but the rerolls still count and as such you get a random champion shard if you already own every other champion.

It does specify that rerolls give you a piece of content you don't own, but only if the new content is available in the store, Champions/skins that are not yet for purchase in the store can't be obtained through Hextech even if we know that they are in the game files. Players have to wait till we activate them. Just because the champions appear in "My Collection" that doesn't mean that they are yet available for use. We typically wait a bit before activating new content to make sure the patch itself is running smoothly. Also something to keep in mind that is present on the Hextech Crafting page:

"CAN I EARN CONTENT THAT JUST GOT ADDED TO THE STORE? Yes! However, it takes a bit for new content to get added to the Hextech system, so we recommend waiting at least a day after a new item hits the store before trying to roll for anything new."

So always be careful even when they are added to the store as the Hextech can update a bit more slowly at times. I'm sorry that you went and rerolled so early when they were not yet active in the store, but there is nothing we can do. We post in the news when new champions/skins become available and even in the patch notes we specified "Xayah, the Rebel, and Rakan, the Charmer, will be released later on during patch 7.8!", so always check the store before making any Hextech actions. Really wish you didn't use the shards so early, but at least you still got to play both of them in the end.

However adding a warning to the player might not be a bad idea in case he already owns all content. I recommend posting the idea on the Boards.

(Riot Games Player Support)

As if an error about "all content already owned" or similar error was not something they could damn well have implemented long ago.

Espy Psyche2 votes

Just wait until a new champion comes out, then reroll. You'll get the new champion.

Synplistic1 votes

I know that everytime I've rerolled a champ shard ive gotten something i didnt own, save for the one time I rerolled shards when i owned them all.

MeilinII1 votes

It will be something you don't own, and RIOT is going to make something for people with all the champs to use blue essence and champ shards on. There was talk on the PBE boards about using them to unlock Champ Mastery Levels 6 +

Tysmin1 votes

like how Riot is looking to figure out a way to use IP for people who own all the champions? Soon TM

DrTankburg2 votes

Buying Runes and Rune Pages...

CreamyManCandy1 votes

It only works for champions I believe.

When I re-roll to skin permanent. I sometimes get skins for champions I don't even own.

Mama Soraka5 votes

Well that seems to be a skin you don't own, so I'd say it works on both counts.

Lsayu1 votes

You can use blue essence for champion mastery tokens.

Darquarius1 votes

Garen -teed... snickers

DWibbie1 votes

I rolled and the only champion I do not own is Camille. After rerolling I got Lushen which I already own so it does not look like you are guaranteed a champion you do not own. I think this is broken and needs to be fixed unless this is a glitch I experiences since this is the 1st time that this has happened.

tropsmoo1 votes

So I roll for random... I get Eve, most of the champions I don't own are 6300... yet I get Eve... is this random or does it give you the cheapest one you don't own? I feel cheated :/

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