A serious question

General Esdeath ·Jun 17, 2016·1 votes·215 views

How many times would a player have to afk after saying "Fuck this I'm afk" in chat before a ban? Why isn't it an automatic ban after clearly saying in /all chat that they want to afk and then do it?

9 Comments

Fondling GemsJun 17, 20163 votes

I think it comes down to Riot trying to keep the punishment rules as clear and simple as possible. There are 3 types of "DC" actual dc, purposeful dc, and purposeful dc where they say so.

In almost every situation there is no way to tell 1 and 2 apart. Since 2 and 3 are the same other than the act of informing people the punishment for those 2 should be the same.

This leaves 3 options.

1 and 2 are punished as 1. 3 is the same as 2 so it is also punished as 1.
2 is punished the same as 3. 1 has to be the same as 2 so all dc is punished as 3.
1 and 2 are punished as accidental dc. 3 is punished as purposeful afk.

From a punishment standpoint 3 makes the most sense. However there are a few things to keep in mind. DCers are rewarded for not saying anything (should you really incur extra punishment for saying what you will do before you do it?). The punishment system is suddenly a lot harder to moderate/understand.

Option 2 harshly punishes connection issues and that isn't fair.

So Riot uses option 1.

Note that I am not a Riot employee and this is based off my knowledge of how the system works, experience programming, and reasoning.

Hope this helps.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20161 votes

I think it should be a 3 time thing for 1 and 2 because if you know your internet/computer will keep crashing, you're risking a team of 4 losing. But I think when someone says in chat "I'm afk" it should be punished with a 15 day ban. But thanks for the info man.

disregardableJun 17, 20161 votes

A lot. At least in 25% of their games but probably a lot more than that.

LostFr0stJun 17, 20161 votes

I don't think automatic "ban" is warranted, they would likely get leaverbustered though. In addition, ban waves happen roughly every 2 weeks so it wouldn't be immediate if they don't do it enough for leaverbuster to get flagged. I know they have to leave a certain % of their recent games to get flagged by leaverbuster.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20161 votes

I mean they said they were gonna afk because the jungler didn't gank, I personally think that is ban worthy. You're telling someone to play a different way than they normally would or else.

LostFr0stJun 17, 20161 votes

Yeah but it wouldn't register as immediate ban-worthy or ban-worthy at all, it would go to chat restrict or 14-day suspension and only once it gets flagged; it'll also likely wait to the next ban wave (up to 2 weeks later). It's not in the same category as racism/death threats, so it's not as immediate.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20161 votes

I'm fine with waiting for ban waves, but I feel afk is worse than being toxic because I can just mute a toxic person

LostFr0stJun 17, 20161 votes

I think they're close, but toxic is worse in my opinion because that person brings down the whole team's morale. Muting after the damage is done is not a real option.
At least with an afk they can't feed or troll via taking the resources from others. I'll take an afk over toxic nearly every day of the week.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20161 votes

I never feel a morale drop so maybe that's why I feel that way. I just ignore and keep playing.