this would be to combat people egging players on in order to rile people up.
a verbally abusive player who ignores requests to "please stop" should have a bigger dent in thier account standing then the guy who gets fed up with it and says "dude, fuck you" before muting them.
scazzman3 votesalso. before people chime in and say "dont retaliate" this post is less focused on the appeal side. and more on the review side. i agree that retaliation should be punished. what i dont agree with is the fact that the other guy isnt punished faster
Sarutobi2 votesBut you also need to put into account that everyone is different. When a player gets punished it's because they are showing signs of toxic behavior. With that in mind the player that retaliating could have been doing so in 10-20 games whereas the other person could have only started doing that in this one game.
This is so that people don't get punished if it's just their first time. Could you image how many ban accounts there would be if every single person who was every toxic just once? I could assume everyone would have one strike by now.
scazzman2 votesthats not really what im getting at. im saying. a player who is deliberatly trying to make people miserable. should be treated more harshly then the guy who is angry then the guy who is angry/frustrated and says a bad word or two. currently. its just whichever one gets reported more.
Sarutobi2 votesBut again like I said everyone is different. Plus whose to say the people playing badly is doing it intentionally? How would you feel to get permaban just because you had one bad game?
Then again someone trolling will get a harsher punishment than a toxic person in chat it's much harder to find and as such why the punishment is harder.
scazzman1 votesim not saying to permaban them. im saying, someone deliberately trying to provoke other players should be flagged for review more quickly than someone getting frustrated. regardless of how often theyre both reported
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KVbqbFsC8e2 votesHey, you were exactly correct, Posting anything true about the flaws of Riots punishment system gets you downvoted here 100% of the time.
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Hey, you were exactly correct, Posting anything true about the flaws of Riots punishment system gets you downvoted here 100% of the time.
The so-called "truths" that some like to point out are more often than not just made-up facts by banned troll ragers who don't want to listen to the actual facts given. Pointing out reasonable flaws and ideas on how to fix them is fine, but making up things, trying to pass them off as facts and refusing to listen to the actual not made-up facts is not fine.
KVbqbFsC8e2 votesThere should be context in all cases. But as long as a 100% automated system is in place, it'll never happen.
EvilDustMan2 votesSaying 'dude, fuck you' then muting is petty and childish.
Great Muta2 votesJust imagine if the justice system worked in a way like League does where it only mattered what you did, not why or how.
"But your honor, I knocked out the guy who held a gun to my head and was robbing my house"
"Sorry sir, it's not the situation, it's only what you did"
SmokedAlmonds2 votesKnocking a guy out who is holding a gun to your head stops them from holding a gun to your head. Raging at someone in league does not stop someone from trolling/raging/whatever thing.
Great Muta1 votesRaging at someone in league does not stop someone from trolling/raging/whatever thing.
You'd be surprised. League doesn't care though. You could have your passwords or naked pics posted in game and League expects you to say "why thank you kind sir, can I have another".
Nik Nikerson1 votesI'd personally like to know how naked pictures are getting posted in game.
Great Muta1 votesCould post a link to them.
NoRunesMasteries1 votesThe automated system only detects those getting reported multiple times. The person who got away not being reported can say what he wants as long as majority reports are against you, the person with the most evidence of being most extremely toxic/bad behavior.
Simply get a group/premade of friends, find an odd man out of the group and if he's toxic while you guys aren't trolling him. 4x report him and ask the enemy team to hopefully 5x report. Boom.
An Honor System in League for reporting Toxic players.
Reket DeAlk3 votesThe automated system only detects those getting reported multiple times. The person who got away not being reported can say what he wants as long as majority reports are against you, the person with the most evidence of being most extremely toxic/bad behavior.
Simply get a group/premade of friends, find an odd man out of the group and if he's toxic while you guys aren't trolling him. 4x report him and ask the enemy team to hopefully 5x report. Boom.
An Honor System in League for reporting Toxic players.
And if said odd person out did nothing wrong, Boom. 5 people get their report weights lowered.
Group reporting does diddly squat. 1 report flags the game, any more don't make anything happen faster.
EDIT: Missed the part about the odd guy out being toxic. Sorry bout that. But the second part of the reply stands. Also asking others to report can get you punished as well.
NoRunesMasteries1 votesLeague in-game community is different from League forum community. Downvote me all you want, you know the truth.
Also if you remember Tribunal one game is flagged but the reports from the players that games weigh in. So if X person gets 9 times reports you would see those 9 reports and the notes attached. This would stretch out throughout the player's account and reports/games reported. So Group reporting does affect if it's means is legitimate.
As for making it faster, it won't make it faster but do you look at a burger that has only the patty and buns or a burger that has lettuces, tomatoes, onions, sauces, patties, buns? which looks more appealing? The one with more varieties or in Tribunal case, the more reports one. Which could draw players or the Tribunal reviewers to draw more attention to that account.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesi think context should be taken into account for all cases.
At worst, it doesn't make a difference and the player is pardoned or punished anyways.
At best it might reveal if a player is just joking, and pardon them, or realize that the player is being passive aggressive and punish them.
Context might help for some select few cases, but generally it's not needed overall as someone else behaving poorly will never excuse your own poor behavior. This is because reports flag a review of the account in question and only hands out punishments if said account shows signs of consistently negative behavior across multiple games.