PSA: When you say "You banned my champion! I can only play this, your fault we lose!"...

Martensitic··2 votes·422 views

...then consider a few things my friend:

  1. No, the reason we lose, is because you are a pathetic one trick pony, who probably doesn't even main the champ, but abuses a current FotM. This marks you as an incredibly bad player, who needs the game to give him an advantage to be able to actually play in the first place

  2. You are absolutely reported, for negativity, giving up early and harassment ("your fault we lose"), so its a valid one. Enjoy your punishment.

  3. No one, and I mean not a solitary human being in this game, wants you in his team. The only reason anyone plays with you, is because an algorithm forces us to. If we had a say, you would never get a game going in a lifetime. Think about that the next time you look into a mirror.

But don't worry, I love having guys like you on the other team. Makes winning so EZ.

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Bandle City2 votes

I really don't understand why people have so many issues with OTP's. Most people above gold played one champion and one champion only in order to get there because when you OTP a champion you gain a certain level of mastery over that champion, their power spikes, weaknesses, and strengths that you can only get by OTPing them. OTPing is the number one recommended way of climbing and most higher elo players would advise not to start playing too many other things until you've climbed up to a certain point.

I personally like getting OTP's on my team so long their champion doesn't get banned because then I know that they at the very least know how to play their champion far better than someone who only plays that champion on occasion or if it fits the team comp.

On another note, you shouldn't be banning the champions your allies want to play if they show intent to play it. It's bad team work and if that's their main then you should EXPECT them to get salty over it, it's a perfectly logical and appropriate response to such a dick move. The only exception to this is if it's a popular champion and they are last pick at which point you are better off offering to pick it for them so the enemy can't get it. Team work goes both ways, you get back what you give out. If you won't be considerate to your allies then what right have you expecting them to be considerate to you?

Dolasaur1 votes

If you purposefully ban your teammate's pick intent? You have a higher-than-average share of responsibility in the case that you do lose. Of course, that person can also be negative attitude report worthy. The two are separate.

Of course, you didn't say that the person used pick intent. I've definitely seen people that didn't use pick intent or chat rage when I ban their champ, which is pretty funny.

3.No one, and I mean not a solitary human being in this game, wants you in his team. The only reason anyone plays with you, is because an algorithm forces us to. If we had a say, you would never get a game going in a lifetime. Think about that the next time you look into a mirror.

I hope you learn self-respect and empathy sooner rather than later. You'll be happier for it!

Martensitic1 votes

If you purposefully ban your teammate's pick intent? You have a higher-than-average share of responsibility in the case that you do lose.

In the game that triggered me to write this thread, my "teammate" did not show his pick intent.

Nor did he write anything in chat, until Vayne got banned.

I am really sorry, but as of now, I have not developed telepathy, precognition, or similar psychic capabilities. And I do not check my teammates on op.gg.

Dolasaur1 votes

I did edit it after the initial post to add the second paragraph, because I do know that happens. Sucks when it does, especially when they explode at you. I do feel for you.

Martensitic1 votes

As to the last line in your post:

I hope you learn self-respect and empathy sooner rather than later. You'll be happier for it!

I have a lot of respect for myself, and I am empathic towards people who deserve it.

However: People who flame me when I ban a champion they wanted to play, WITHOUT SHOWING THEIR PICK INTENT OR TELLING US IN CHAT (I hope it was visible enough this time), are not on that list.

Dolasaur1 votes

Poorly worded; your post just had so much anger in it that I didn't take the time to phrase my reply more cautiously.

I meant enough to the point where you don't get so offended by careless people. There are a loooooot of people out there that don't think about their actions, and that's largely because they haven't had appropriate role models. How you treat them says a lot about you.

If it's something like a real life abusive boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever, then there's no reason to keep dealing with that person. But when it's a stranger who might just have had a bad day, or thought he did do pick intent (which would make your ban "intentional"), gets angry, you have choices. The more self-control you have (which frequently correlates with self-respect), the less likely you are to get into a tizzy about it. *

You're venting about it on the boards, which isn't an inherently bad response. But there are lots of people that will rant about it in champ select, and carry the negative attitude into the game. (You could have done those as well. But I'm not assuming you did.)

I've seen posts from people on the boards that say things like "you made fun of my champ choice, so I'm not going to gank/roam/peel" etc. That might be the correct game choice in some situations. If the person doesn't know how to play with your jungle Braum, ganks might be useless. If you think the person is so hotheaded that peeling is a waste of time because s/he's going to dive in and die anyway, that's reasonable. But if you want to win more than you value your pride, you won't be one of those people that makes the decision only based on pride. (Happily for your point #2, you didn't say anything about asking the whole team to report. That would be amusingly hypocritical, and it's so common to see people do that lol.)

I guess my point is more like... when I read your post, I was sad that it sounded like you were writing off those people. I mean, my reply to your post could easily have been copy/pasting your point #3. If I had a choice, I personally would prefer someone who doesn't give off the aura of being easily rage triggered. But instead I felt compelled to [awkwardly and impolitely] try to help you be more forgiving of people. Because although I might not choose anyone I get matched with, I still try to have fun with all of them unless they consistently show they're not in the mood to have fun (-> mute button).

* Referencing a point early on with position selection. People were complaining about getting positions they didn't queue for, so Riot looked into it. They said every instance they investigated was people just remembering wrong and getting angry anyway.

Martensitic1 votes

I guess my point is more like... when I read your post, I was sad that it sounded like you were writing off those people.

Guess what: I do.

Most people on this planet, are not intelligent. Most of them are part of a pretty dumb mass that is easily manipulated, prone to irrational decisions, uneducated, unwilling to get educated or educate themselves, proud of their ignorance, emotionally unstable and dangerous to themselves and others unless constantly checked and supervised by systems set up by more capable human beings.

I don't have respect for such people, and never will. I accept that their existence is a fact that will not change.

But that doesn't mean I have to like them, or care about wheter or not they improve themselves.

I was more idealistic once, but life burned that out of me.

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