I'm getting really sick of "support" players who take the role and just take a mid laner like Lux, Zyra, Morgana, and refuse to get any items like 
or 
. Can we please add a report option for players like this?
IcyPepper11 votesYou can't enforce meta.
BudgetMessiah3 votesThat's not 'meta'. That's common sense.
MasterSomething4 votesNo, it's meta to build sightstone and a support item on support.
BudgetMessiah1 votesYou don't seem to understand what 'meta' means. It refers to gameplay concepts that are abstracted from the extant state-of-the-game. These things aren't (necessarily) immediately obvious.
It's immediately obvious that a support should build support items. That's like saying an ADC doesn't necessarily have to buy AD. You're being contrary, and patently ridiculous.
MasterSomething4 votesWell, and ADC doesn't have to build ADC. The role is called bot lane. The ADC could also build full crit and attacks speed and ignore AD. A support is not required to get support items.
BudgetMessiah4 votesLet's hear exactly what this 'full crit and attacks [sic] speed' build that ignores AD is. [zombie-brand-mindblown]
That aside, if you've got an ADC who is doing this (hypothetical build), then they're just as culpable as the support who refuses to make support items. That's precisely my point. They're doing a terrible job, and in a ranked game, that's tantamount to throwing the game on purpose.
MasterSomething2 votesThey may not be doing what is optimal, but they aren't required to play by the most optimal build path. Not playing optimally isn't throwing. It's just not playing optimally.
elduris4 votesIt's immediately obvious that a support should build support items.
Can you explain to me how I, as a new player to League of Legends, would inherently know to build a support item like Sightstone on a mage support like Brand or Lux?
Supreme Senpai697 votesKill lanes exist too, though they should at least have a support item to generate gold.
General Esdeath 1 votesThey should, but some people don't get any support items. Then fall behind and keep getting AP.
Sythriel Draken4 votesif riot won't punish intentional feeders, what makes you think that they would do anything to those players if there was a report option.
I'm a support main, I've taken "mid laners" in the support role but I always buy 
or it's Tank equivalent before buying my AP stuff on Sona, Lux, Morg, Brand, Veigar, and Vel'koz (just to name a few) so when I see supports not buying at least a sightstone, I actually get really angry when I'm doing other lanes to try and get back to gold so I feel your pain.
Oleandervine3 votesI'm getting really sick of "support" players who take the role and just take a mid laner like Lux, Zyra, Morgana, and refuse to get any items like
Lux, Zyra, and Morgana have traditionally been played in either Support or Mid, with Zyra and Morgana being predominantly played as support for like the past 2 years. Calling them mid laners is like calling Leona a top laner. And no, you can't report people because they hurt your feelings and itemize how they want to. It's their choice to play how they want, just like it's your choice to play how you want. Do I get to ban people who play Rengar or Yasuo as ADC? No, because it's their freedom to choose that. Sure, my game may be bad (or they could surprise me), but unless they barrel down the lane all game and get executed to the turret the entire time, I can't do anything except make the best of my game and play harder. So you do the same. Don't whine about supports who try different builds, just play well and work off of their stuns and roots.
FatesDefiler3 votesi kinda agree with you here. support's main purpose is to ward the map. protect the adc during laning phase and ward. vision is one of the most important things to winning the game and saying you'll play support position is saying 'i will ward the map'. not building sightstone isn't 'playing out of meta', it's the equivalent to stacking tears. it makes the game significantly harder for your team to win because you won't perform your role.
Awkward Couch2 votesi kinda agree with you here. support's main purpose is to ward the map. protect the adc during laning phase and ward. vision is one of the most important things to winning the game and saying you'll play support position is saying 'i will ward the map'. not building sightstone isn't 'playing out of meta', it's the equivalent to stacking tears. it makes the game significantly harder for your team to win because you won't perform your role.
Granted, it pisses me off to no end when the support doesn't buy a sightstone, but it's more that just warding the map as the support. As a support, I have to help my ADC cs (especially under turret) worry about harass, as well as keep an eye on the mini map for the both of us and I usually ping the where the jungler is if they show anywhere on the map. But it's everyone's job to ward the map, not just the support. If you want to report me for not getting a sightstone, I should be able to report the ADC for not using their trinket ever (not saying I would, just using an extreme example).
FatesDefiler1 votesit's not only sightstone though. aura items like aegis, utility items like talisman, even something like a zz'rot portal. i've done the support mage bot quite a few times, and i've seen others do it. people really underestimate the value of support items to the strength of a team, and overvalue the strength of a half-value 2nd apc. it's a lot more beneficial to the team, and really doesn't sidetrack a build too much, to spend 2000 gold on an aegis and sightstone before starting to build apc items.
not starting with a support item is just stupid, though. it's practically a self-imposed penalty, cutting off a good chunk of gold income. i like to get coin as a solo laner a lot of the time, especially in 1v2 lanes.
i think one of the worst things happening in the game is that bot lane is becoming a very undesirable place to be. nobody wants to play support, and i don't think that many people want adc, either. it's been that way for a long time and i like anything that changes the bot lane meta and makes it better for the people playing bottom lane (for example i take smite as support quite often). to do so at the detriment of your team winning the game is a selfish thing to do, though, one must admit.
Awkward Couch2 votesI tend to disagree with you on a few points here.
Before the mage rework, I would often not buy a 
because I would be going up against a mostly all AD team comp. Does that make me a bad player? I don't think so, it's about itemizing for the situation (I would often play supports like Ali or Braum so things like sunfire and frozen heart).
I also disagree with you about the gold part. Forcing me to go and buy a Locket or ZZ rot or something, is a huge deterrant from playing support because I have the least amount of gold and those items are extremely expensive. In a game where there are low kills or we are behind, it's often the case that I have 2 partial items bought but not enough money to finish them. Personally, I feel that the support items are pretty much garbage, but I build them because they are cheaper than most items and it gives me a bit of a power spike. Aura items have the same problem that the old Taric ult had, they feel very underwhelming. Whereas if I bought straight AP, I can feel that difference immediately. But that's a problem for another discussion.
Finally, I just have to disagree with you about team comps. If we have a team with let's say a Malphite top and a Rammus jungle, I'm going to build sightstone and then straight AP (I'm kinda having a fling with support annie atm). With a team like that, we have enough engage and enough tank where I feel comfortable going and APC build. Me not having a locket or zz rot isn't going to be detrimental to the team, I would be doing more damage, which a team also needs. I agree that this isn't for every game ever, but going full AP is not going to kill your team comp or cause you to lose the game outright.
Where I do agree with you are these two points. Starting a support item is key, but I really don't want to finish that item most of the time (but I do because it's cost). Second point is that the bot lane sucks right now. Supports will be bad to play, no matter what game you play (personally, I think its because most people want to do a lot of damage and be the "hero"), but ADCs are in a real shit place right now.
cuddlykitten43 votesOh, did you not get the update that gives you two trinkets to stack? and the upgrade? and do pinks not appear in your shop for 75G? Oh, they do? Well then, you can help support ward the map too then can't you? Amazing how hard people find this concept to grasp.
Lothàrs Edge1 votesSorry, it isn't. Stacking tears has absolutely no value other than getting another chunk of mana.
Opting to go for a more carry-oriented build in the support role never will be the same as stacking tears, no matter how much you want it to be.
FatesDefiler1 votesit's close enough to trolling to count. vision is one of the most important factors in winning and support's most important role is to provide ward vision. you could most likely do an analysis on supports who do buy sightstone vs those who don't and find a large discrepancy between the win/loss ratios there. i'm sure that lcs pro's don't buy the 
'cause they like the color.
Lothàrs Edge1 votesAre you saying that because you think it counts? Or do you know that for a fact? Because I don't know anyone who's been banned for not opting to build something that others want them to build.
FatesDefiler1 votessatan told me so in a dream last night, the little wolf-headed snake-mongerer. damn and blast!
Lothàrs Edge1 votesSo... basically you want it to count but in no way shape or form does it actually count.
Well met.
Sukishoo3 votesAn AP support is still a support. They don't "need" those items, but they are better off having them most of the time. There is nothing wrong with not having them, it is a team game afterall, everyone should be supplying wards be it from the stone or your trinket.
Gimpy892 votesdeath is the best form of cc
Primaquarius2 votesExcept Sightstone Morgana is absolutely fking useless, so no thanks
General Esdeath 1 votesHow is sightstone useless?
Maximum Morde2 votesOnly if the option punishes the one reporting for being a little whiny turd instead of the support who just wanted to have fun.
Demonicous2 votesI build what I want son.
General Esdeath 1 votesBuild the stone and then go whatever you want goy
Demonicous1 votesLOL I bet you when we Supports follow this doctrine these fools will start crying murder that we don't build 
.
Time for Supports to unionize!
General Esdeath 1 votesI don't care about frost queen, doesn't work on everyone and I think it's meh compared to old one. But the vision is much more valuable than 2 ghosts.
0pAL2NlcpJ2 votesI'm a Support main. Sometimes we have to build such a way to carry people such as yourself.
General Esdeath 1 votesOh another insult, so cute :) And you don't build sightstone at all? Why?
0pAL2NlcpJ2 votesOh another insult, so cute :) And you don't build sightstone at all? Why?
No insult was intended. Sometimes people such as yourself feed intensively and us supports must carry. Why do I need sight stone? Kill Pressure is your vision.
General Esdeath 1 votesYeah my support carried me really well by going 0-10 and going full AP lmao and I'd prefer vision so that the enemy can't sneak up on me.
0pAL2NlcpJ1 votesYeah my support carried me really well by going 0-10 and going full AP lmao and I'd prefer vision so that the enemy can't sneak up on me.
That 1 support in that 1 game isn't the same support every game. Everyone has different methods of playing the game. Because, someone doesn't follow the meta, does not make them wrong.
General Esdeath 1 votesIt's not just that one, it's happened so many times lately where they take fill, get support, but "didn't want support" The Lux was just a recent one I remember more than others.
0pAL2NlcpJ1 votesIt's not just that one, it's happened so many times lately where they take fill, get support, but "didn't want support" The Lux was just a recent one I remember more than others.
Why don't you support and show everyone how it's done. You seem to have expert knowledge.
General Esdeath 1 votesI used to support a lot, I just hate having to rely on someone (my adc in that case) because sometimes you think going in is a good idea but they don't and you end up going in 1v2. Funny thing is that it was never 1v3 because I always got sightstone so we had vision. It's amazing, I know, how one item can REALLY help your laner and then your whole team :)
0pAL2NlcpJ1 votesI used to support a lot, I just hate having to rely on someone (my adc in that case) because sometimes you think going in is a good idea but they don't and you end up going in 1v2. Funny thing is that it was never 1v3 because I always got sightstone so we had vision. It's amazing, I know, how one item can REALLY help your laner and then your whole team :)
I don't understand why you are in gold. You seem like a challenger player stuck in gold because of all the bad players. Have you ever been in the LCS?
General Esdeath 1 votesI'm in gold because that's my skill cap for now :^) also I don't play ranked as much this season, it's all been crazy and I recently got a new PC so I've been trying other games like XCOM, Overwatch, and I'm thinking DS3.
Pawn of hearts1 votesyea player other games. me2 my sis laptop seem to be able to handle dota2 now gotta grind it because they have that 1 vs 1 and 10 vs 10. SO FREAKING EXCITED.
General Esdeath 1 votesNever played DOTA, not that interested. Can't wait for Overwatch though.
Wenderwall1 votesSometimes I support and other times JG. I get sightstone becuz my support champs are SLOW and immobile while I keep abilities for saving ADC. That said, when I'm in jg I use my wards in top/bottom lane so that they get vision and ask them for a pink ward.
I don't always expect sup to get it but would request them if we are losing becuz of vision/ map awareness. That said, if 
is sup, vision ward is not required. same with 
. Their traps give vision.
You just need to discuss/ talk with your sup/adc on what to build. If sup refuses ask them , politely, about gold. And if you are not playing aggressive, early game summoner then explain that too.
General Esdeath 1 votesI have, and some say "I don't feel like building support" despite being 1-6 they try going full damage
Wenderwall2 votesThat seems toxic and if they show intentional feed you can report them for that.
JafarThePanda1 votes
General Esdeath 2 votesJokes on you, only one pink is allowed
JafarThePanda1 votesJokes on you, only one pink is allowed
Doesn't mean you can't buy a spare and wait.
General Esdeath 1 votesI do when I fight Eve/Shaco :^)