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Which Game do you honestly think I was Intentionally Feeding on More?

Ada Wong·4/19/2016, 9:43:49 PM·1 votes·998 views

This game where a player took my Role, and made the game unplayable because I went off meta top, to my knowledge Riot doesn't punish for off meta, and if I wasn't trolled and forced to jungle this which I tried to farm enemy jungle and couldn't with no clear then I wouldn't have died 14 times or have as awful stats as this (IMO) this game is worse than the game Riot also thinks I intentionally fed playing Azir Mid and doing awful with it within recent games.

Like I am not accusing the player who went top lane and trolled me for Intentional Feeding either because honestly I think they just gave up, and didn't respect what was laid out at champion selection to begin with, but the real question is how to get Riot to see and understand that players doing this can impact the performance of other players in a game in a negative way.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2160904213/37682357?tab=overview

OR

The game where I went Azir after seeing someone else and playing him god awful

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2152130061/37682357?tab=overview

Honestly I put in an appeal, and Riot is even questioning my second game here for intentionally feeding...

I was under the impression that players didn't get punished for doing bad but it appears Riot is questioning players games now for having bad games when suspended for intentionally feeding...

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2151015244/37682357?tab=overview

Is riot going to start punishing players who have no frigging idea what they are doing, I am not calling the enemy Lux an Intentional Feeder because honestly I do not believe they are not but me getting fed off them because they lacked the skills to understand what they needed to do wait until I used my (E) before binding me and getting fed off me plus no help from the jungler, how can you blame a person for doing awful in a few games on their histories. (But since I knew this, and since I am fast at it, I could just wait until lux tosses out her (Q) at me then jump on her and kill her every time leaving her with like no defense because (E) on a kat can go over a Lux (Q)?

Honestly I can understand my last game being label as an Intentional Feeder, and Last year when I had a 10-15 game loss being called an intentional feeder because of forced roles with idiots in my eyes, but since the new role system I have not had as much of a loss streak in 4 maybe going on 5 months, or been banned for Intentional Feeding until 2 days ago, so yep makes perfect sense?

17 Comments

disregardable4/19/2016, 9:59:18 PM2 votes

www.replay.gg/search/na/ada wong#2149921970

Watched your replay. Ban deserved.

ModWulf Helhammer4/19/2016, 9:48:22 PM1 votes

When you play it in ranked, yes, they will be much harsher in determining if you were intentionally feeding.

If neither games had been ranked, I would say the Azir game as fine (as you said you were new). But both of them were, so I agree with Riot

Ada Wong4/19/2016, 10:43:33 PM1 votes

Bah can't actually view the replay until the account is unbanned, but I don 't think it was intentional feeding would have to look at it to remember this game and what happened though, if I remember it was an off meta mid and things didn't go well not sure if it was this game or not.

Ada Wong4/19/2016, 11:07:11 PM1 votes

Honestly I don't feel the need to be toxic towards Riot Staff, or Employee, because I think they have been doing a great job at getting rid of the most chat toxicity, they actually helped me see some of my mistakes before as a player and stop doing them they taught me how to use (Mute) and not respond back to toxicity and spend 20 minutes arguing idiots.

But I think Riot sometimes takes "Intentionally Feeding a bit too far" and needs a lot more statistics to prove intentional feeding including "Manual Reviews" Instead of just banning players for a couple of games like my email shows here for Intentional feeding or rather one game, Riot should do a more in-depth check for intentional feeders.

http://imgur.com/c3fzNHi

Edit: What I don't Understand about this email.

1.) The fact it tells me I can work on lane phase, I understand I can work on lane phase (If I didn't have a griefing shyvana) trolling my lane and not following the Role Selection that ways laid out at champion selection.

2.) The email says to make use of the Mute Function ( I do this) all the time that toxicity is going to start I mute everyone.

3.) How do I work with my team when I have everyone muted I cant hear them. (If there is something I can do I try to do it.) But if players argue or don't listen I just be quiet with everyone on mute and play let the game be a win or loss (Riot said you can't win every game.

4.) Objective Control, and Lane Phase this would be possible if I wasn't playing that specific setup for (Top Lane Only) but riot should clearly be understanding that players who Intentionally grief cause problems rather than using a standard automated ban email that makes no sense. (IF RIOT) can explain how to jungle sona and get good wave clear I wouldn't have died 14 times, but I bet Riot Can't do this.

I can understand what the game in my email looks like, this is before Riot manually reviews other games on the account such as my Azir Game that I did awful in, but Riot should also besides just saying "Okay You're Banned for 2 weeks" for feeding, actually ask the player "Why they are feeding, or why their game went bad." Take for example in DOTA 2, which I have been playing since being banned the community has toxicity, but its not as toxic or negative experience as it was not to mention the reporting system has been tweaked quite a bit and they actually give you a report card before punishing you letting you know how good or bad you are doing now something (Riot should consider doing) before taking action in most cases build this system into the client.

Riot Reviews the stats on paper which a player died 14 times, but they fail to understand why that player died 14 times, well its simple if I didn't have a toxic troll in my solo lane I wouldn't have died 14 times, and even if I did I would have had actual Kills / Assists rather than a fat 0, not to mention being able to actually play and assist even if the game was lost.

If the people who actually reviewed the system actually understood more in-depth about why a player feeds, or why a player is doing bad instead of just yelling intentional feeder, then I would have no problem after all the last time I was banned for Intentional Feeding was in November of 2015 for dying like 20+ times in many games with a forced role with stubborn players this was prior to the new system and it was awful wasting my time tilting so hard, but to get a few occasional matches where a player gets counted, or does awful shouldn't qualify as Intentional Feeding.

Perhaps instead of just issuing a player a instant 2 week ban, which I worked down over the case of 4 months and many games they should actually warn the player in game something such as. ** Hey Buddy, You are doing poorly in game, Just so you know "Intentional Feeding" is a ban worthy offense, we advise you please take a break from playing ranked, and ask a player to do a few normal matches, or change their play, perhaps even put a text box where a person can watch the replay of their own game or is required to and type why they did poorly in it, which would be reviewed by a Rioter.**

Obviously if there was Intentional Feeding going on I would just create more accounts since im allowed to do such, do the tutorial and run down mid making players rage and toxic just to get them banned from the game and intentionally feed a lot more, and this isn't the case here ( I would rally love to watch that replay of the Fiora game where I died 18 times to make sure it wasn't Intentional because that is a game I don't fully remember but if I died that many times I am sure there was a reason for it.

Not all players think or play the same way in a MOBA, and that is what makes opinions about Intentional Feed, and creates negativity, and toxicity in games, because clearly if players took ranked as seriously as I do (AT CHAMPION SELECTION) even with the Selected Role System my stats could still be a lot better.