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Banned Twice for Intentional Feeding... This time its obvious, Trolls Win...

Ada Wong·4/18/2016, 2:15:39 AM·3 votes·8,211 views

I played my first game of the day and got matched with Toxic players, I believe the same players twice after leaving previous Queues.

Short as I can make it I had a player who was talking in chat they were going Morgana Support, a Mid that really needed CC being played, and a Jungle that made no sense at all that was chosen for this awful comp...

So I go Sona Riot doesn't enforce a meta so whatever, anyways I do this and I take smite top for the simple purpose of being able to pressure the enemy jungle earlier and steal their buffs after I have done pushing the enemy back making them recall etc, which is a off meta tactic but done by some players.

Anyways another player on my team decides to "Troll" and take another champion top lane, and they just die constantly in a 1v1 fight every single time, meanwhile I am really fucked because the entire game has been thrown for me despite trying to get ahead early game which was the only chance it simply wont work as the masteries, and loadout + champion is specific setup for a lane phase.

This is a copy of the email I received which tells me its for a single game that " I Feed in".

> 14 Day Behavior Suspension > > Ada Wong, > > You have received a 14-day suspension for intentional feeding following an extensive audit of your in-game behavior. > > When our players log into League, we want them to be able to have fun in their games. By being an intentional feeder, you have intentionally set out to ruin other players’ games. It is important to remember that retaliation is not OK in this community, and the behavior of another player does not justify your actions. > > For context, we have provided you with a link to the offending game below: > > http://matchhistory.NA.leagueoflegends.com/#match-details/NA1/2160904213/37682357 > > It’s important to remember that you’re not going to win every game you play. You can still work on your lane phase, objective control or teamwork in a lost game, and if a player is behaving poorly, use the mute feature and report them at the end of the game. Lastly, if you don’t agree with the standards for behavior set for the community, consider jumping into a game with friends, or not playing at all. > > Consider this the only warning this account will receive. Failure to improve can result in permanent closure of your account. >

The game says I can mute toxic players which is clearly what I did at the start of the game /Mute All, I don't want to hear toxicity, and I turn off my sound and play the game, however playing a support champion as a AP, such as Sona, or LuLu is required to be played a specific way that I am playing it, not with a player griefing / trolling lane phase at the very start and throwing intentionally.

What this proves?

Is that Riot needs to step up their game on dealing with trolls who take a role, and then fail to do it, and intentionally troll the game after taking a role, and throwing the game hard.

Like honestly if I had of not been playing an off meta support in a solo lane then perhaps it would have been easier not to feed as hard, but when a user is playing a champion a specific way in a game, and for a specific reason only to be trolled this creates a huge problem.

36 Comments

AeroWaffle4/18/2016, 2:58:38 AM15 votes

I took a look at your match history.

0/14/1 Sona Level 4 (everyone else on your team was at least level 10) 4 minion kills.

You were intentionally feeding, you deserve your ban.

AraMoOse4/18/2016, 2:19:52 AM12 votes

Yes, no, sadly for you, we are also not idiots and are not fooled by your excuses. Please stop using other people's behavior as an excuse for yours.

Sniper 04/18/2016, 2:32:44 AM6 votes

So you intentionally made a bad pick knowing good and well that it would tilt your team... you were the only real off meta pick (who makes for a terrible top laner). JUST because you didn't like the teamcomp. Which was honestly a really good teamcomp.

iDrink Moar Beer4/18/2016, 3:18:11 AM4 votes

Dude you waste so much time and effort arguing for the sake of arguing and then you wonder why nobody likes you....

5oulDARK12/27/2016, 2:48:08 PM3 votes

This has to be one of the most deserved bans in league of legends history. A SMITE!!! sona top, who buys full support items, dies to jungle minion camp for 20 minutes (which obviously is intentional suicuding), has 4minions (you can farm more than that by simply pressing Q once on lane as sona), and is lvl 4 which means she spend most of her game dead, walking in jungle suiciding, afk in base, and Tyler1ing it down mid. Of course someone takes top, they werent trolling you,you were trolling them. You took a smite sona top with support build, they had to try to rescue the top lane, which you made impossible

iDrink Moar Beer4/18/2016, 2:42:39 AM2 votes

Lol, yea you seem toxic.

Ada Wong4/18/2016, 5:44:30 AM1 votes

**The real questions that still need to be answered. **

. Is Riot going to punish players who Intentionally Steal Roles, because after this awful experience and waste of 20 Minutes of my Real Life time tonight just playing the game something needs to be done for sure to address the issue in this game, and future games where players intentionally troll others for the sole purpose of making them tilt, or the game go bad like this player did.

I remember champion selection they were like (NO GO SUPPORT) I clearly stated (No I am going support with this.) and the idiot just flat out goes top anyways and trolls something needs to be done to address these type of players.

https://gyazo.com/b188820e6979da4a69c133927929c086.png

Obviously if reviewed by support staff should clearly show what happened, and hopefully resolve the dispute because its rare to encounter this but when it happens it truly pisses me off so much.

Ada Wong4/18/2016, 6:44:41 AM1 votes

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A player stealing a role from a player is reportable & is also punishable (not sure if you meant role stealing in Blind Pick or NCS, as NCS has a higher punishment percentage imo). However, your intentional feeding has managed to make the role stealer's report ** a lot less valuable**, so you just happen to be the next reportable bait instead.

Just because you see someone doing what they're not suppose to do, doesn't mean you're granted all the rights to follow up as well.

I mean in ranked, I was doing a solo queue where players ended up using the Finder telling me they were going Katarina Mid Morgana Support, and a couple of other champions I personally didn't agree with the champion select choices though I think our jungle was Shaco if I remember correctly but they ended up changing their minds I went Sona top for the specific purpose of having some hard (CC) and hard Poke early on, while people will obviously disagree with this, playing Sona, or LuLu as a support Mid is viable, let alone top in certain cases.

I took smite for the purpose of being able to counter the enemy jungle, contest objectives and such so there was (no trolling going on here, even sometimes others in LCS) have taken double smite.

All I know is I muted everyone as soon as the game started because I knew players were going to get toxic, I don't like to listen to the toxicity or rage myself so its the best thing for me to do, I played the game tried to get ahead at early level and just kept dying because of not having any type of way to do anything early on, and no jungle clear for sure.

What I really don't understand is why this person choose to take my role then feed 8 times, Yes I know I died more, and there is a damn good reason I died 14 times, but taking role + dying 8 times in a 1v1 like honestly come on.. The person who did this knew I was against it because I knew what would likely happen if they did this that I would end up feeding doing this bad if I even tried to play there was only little chance of getting ahead off the enemy jungle early game when he was getting his blue, and hopefully be able to do something which I believe can be shown on my first death to players if I remember correctly.**

Going bot lane for me as a player with a random lock, and player who has no idea what they are doing generally leads to arguments, and same toxic results, not something I do unless I know the player, or they know what they are doing, in other words and I know people are going to debate this but (I disagree with Kogmaw as an ADC) I believe there is better IMO, and I would actually be setting up a Team Comp for Duo bot if I was going to do this, and if a 3rd a jungler where all 3 players knew what they are doing.

And going AFK obviously isn't an option because of Leave Buster, so getting punished for feeding especially in situations like this makes no sense to me Yes I know its automated but still.

1a2a3a4a5a11/12/2016, 6:52:30 AM1 votes

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Ada Wong12/27/2016, 9:14:41 PM1 votes

Thanks for the Necro Post, but Riot doesn't enforce meta, or specific types of play if a player goes to (X) Lane without getting permission because someone decides to go "Sona Top" or "Lee-sin Mid" and they still lock a mid champion and are like (No GO X Champion) X lane then its (Griefing) and if a player goes 0-20 or 2-20 you really can't blame the user as League isn't over-watch its not possible to change a Hero on the fly as you go for example if someone is trolling in over-watch you can change and not die as much in League you are stuck with what you are going and if someone trolls you its not possible to change that...

I've had the same type of idiotic junglers throwing games Intentionally lately, people starting arguments and just /mute all with my speakers /headset sound muted takes care of the frigging problem and even some of those games are horrid for example the other day a my previous game was very positive score but whatever next after was awful because JG decided to flat out troll lane phase which made a huge difference.

**And for the record I have went "Sona Top Again" and even "Sona Mid" lately and as long as the jungler wasn't trolling / griefing it actually worked so it is a thing, and you can complain to all the PRO Players who take Lulu and say that isn't a thing, as for summoner 11 there is a perfectly good reason to take this as a support, mid, or top perhaps people see this as not effective to have "Double Smite" on the same team, or even have Smite used for gaining Extra AP as a support, or as a Top red smite, rather than having a (Sight Stone) which IMO is one of the suckiest things given Riot Gave us Green Wards...item 1409 which happens to be better than item 2045 **

Yes (TOXIC Players) and (Junglers) who throw intentionally do Impact game-play a lot, and I do swear if Riot allowed me to seriously change my hero with this (Troll on my team griefing me in this specific game) I still stand by the fact that I wouldn't have died as much the way I did, but (Role Stealers) are gonna troll they can impact a game a whole lot.

Maximum Morde4/18/2016, 2:20:23 AM1 votes

Well, you aren't the Red Cross and League isn't Africa.

Ada Wong4/18/2016, 3:15:24 AM1 votes

In General Excluding Feeding.

The Community here is proving to me, and telling me that players are (ALLOWED) to intentionally steal roles without asking or getting confirmation, and Troll costing games, and issues in game, where a player such as myself Feeds really depends on the player (How they are playing) and (What they are playing) as well as (Skill Factors) & (Builds) which is another argument

But in General (Role Stealing) I don't think should be allowed by Riot ( and if this player had not have done this, and just Feed) the enemy anyways I wouldn't be 0/14 in the game, that is generally all that needs to be said and reviewed, and new report options put in to address this issue.

Like Riot Gave us the Tools, and stuff to help players do better, and avoid this type of toxicity, and issues, (Yet People) still are toxic, and trolling games sometimes despite the new systems put in place, and I don't think that is okay.

Ada Wong4/18/2016, 3:51:25 AM1 votes

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That is not what the anyone is telling you, at all. Almost no one even mentioned the other people. These situations can have more than one person in the wrong, this post is simply about you and not them.

You are very interesting to me because you seem very genuine but when you look at the stats that go along with your stories they never really feel right. I mean maybe you weren't exactly intentional feeding, but man that is some extreme negligence. Even moving past the sona top with smite thing and accept that the pick is viable but requires a team, you knew that team support didn't exist. Yet you continued to go into the enemy jungle and die over and over. IMO at some point on the way to 8 deaths in their jungle you needed to figure out that wasn't working. I don't know how you draw that line, but you are clearly over it. Maybe you weren't malicious, but you were grossly negligent.

I'm curious, do you just like tilt so hard you completely lose the will to play or do you legitimately believe that after failing at making w/e play in the enemy jungle 7 times that the 8th time it was going to work out?

Which is true, and I understand this, and there is a reason that playing with a random player is not an option for me.

** And honestly I just flat out stop caring when people troll, as In I do try to play the game, but if its a loss, I am willing to just accept the loss and move on to a real game without making a big deal of it, when you have been playing League for as long as I have dealing with as much (Toxic Garbage) as I have you either start becoming Toxic Yourself raging at other players or you get the attitude like I have and just flat out don't be a try hard as in you play the game but you don't take it seriously to the point where you are going to rage.**

** Eventually you learn just by looking at champions at champion selection (Excluding Player Skill) What is going to happen, and what needs to happen for you to win** OF Course Annie vs Katarina for example you know (Annie) if played correctly should win lane phase 1v1's but then you factor in "Skill" Does the enemy player suck if yes you can easily win if they miss a stun early, or drop their ult wrong or something you can win, but if they are evenly skilled the Annie should win, and from there for example, you have to look at other plays that can be made for example (Is your jungler going to help) get you ahead, Can you go to another lane and wreck everyone because you can roam better than the annie etc.**

Over-All it becomes to the point where you learn who is likely to win or lose a game before it even starts and then you just flat out know what to expect when the game starts, and what needs to be done, but at the same time you do kinda lose your will and just don't care when you get trolls, Like I understand both sides of the story where people say don't give up and all, but that is never possible especially when being trolled this hard in a game at least for me as a player, perhaps others are different and that is fine, because players Should not have to deal with Trolls doing this to begin with. And perhaps if it had not have been for this dummy taking the champion they did and going top the game could have easily went in our favor more, because you have to look at what we have.

. Knowing the position of the enemy jungler with me having smite top was important. . Having double Smite = Faster Leash your jungler smites first . Having Extra Smite Helps you take dragons faster, and is always useful . Although it does have some disadvantages depending on the enemy comp and lane phase it can be great, but expecting bronze players to know any of this good luck.

. 99% of the time players have no idea what they are doing or are too slow, don't even understand quick cast, this isn't something that I can play around, when I play as a bot lane I often play off meta, or stuff that people don't expect, I am generally the type of player that (Expects the person bot) where it be ADC or support to (Be fast within 1 second usually less), and understand what the hell they are doing, let alone not auto locking something bot lane that I do not agree with will create problems and feed too.

In general most players I duo with are required to be on team-speak and take the game highly seriously aka know what I am doing and what the hell they are doing, let alone it is better when you have a jungler that actually knows how to jungle, and yes a good Lee-Sin with counter warding can carry a game.

In general I hold a strict stance of (How I play in Any Moba) unless with a pre-made team or player who knows what they are doing if players (Intentionally troll me) then you can damn well expect to lose, the only point and problem is I should not get banned for 2 weeks for doing this awful because of a frigging troll that seeks to intentionally create problems in a game.

Like I understand where everyone comes from, but I understand that playing a role with someone who has no idea what they are doing just leads to pointless arguments, Feeding, Toxicity, and that is why I just don't do it in Solo Queue no matter the MOBA.

Which generally leaves me two options.

1.) I Can go afk and get banned for leave buster.

2.) I can continue to try and play the game and hopefully come out on top later, or get ahead early and do something ( In cases like this damn right there is likely going to be feed.) ( and the only way to prevent me from doing this awful is to stop being toxic and let me play the specific way I had the game setup to be played from the start.)

. Yes to me getting a player behind 10 cs, or 1 level means a huge difference between a win / loss early, its not something a lot of people understand but I think higher elo understands this more about how Early game impacts a whole game or can have a positive or negative experience on a whole game early.

. This can also be proven by what happened in a previous game where I completely zoned the enemy, denied them farm early game, the enemy jungler just fail ganked me and in the end the enemy player top lane was completely useless vs me, but other lanes feed / lost, still the point is it matters. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2160255208/37682357?tab=overview

Ada Wong4/18/2016, 4:28:02 AM1 votes

There is really only one question that needs to be argued or said here.

1.) Is a player allowed to steal another persons role, and Troll, let alone take the role then die 8 frigging times. I Could argue the same thing of Intentionally feeding, but I think they were just flat out stupid personally, or on purposefully trying to get players banned for feeding themselves in my case of playing off meta top.

. In my opinion there is absolutely no excuse for this type of behavior and if the answer is no then why the hell am I suspended for two weeks and linked a game for (Feeding myself) after being flat out trolled and being unable to play the game.

Sure you can argue me all day long and get nowhere but fact of the matter is the player was Griefing and as a result as stated many times I did god awful because of it, could I have done better (Absolutely) if I had not have played a specific champion for that specific role only, even with a troll I could have possibly not fed as much, perhaps done better, or forced group fights earlier, but when someone goes and does this to me then the fate is kinda locked in for everyone.

Ada Wong4/18/2016, 5:00:57 AM1 votes

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You literally do anything but what you did. Intentionally feeding could not possibly be the answer. Go bot lane and support?

Not a valid solution, if it was I would have went there and played, but as I have said before many posts many times, ( I don't get along with random players, there is a reason why I don't support, or ADC in a bot lane unless I know the person, and I have explained myself many countless times, that most of the time it ends with players arguing, or retards in my eyes, I don't use those toxic words at others in the game, but I can't play with such, if players actually want me to be able to do such roles then I will either Duo Queue with someone who knows what they are doing, or they will need to be very specific at the champion selection screen and meet very strict requirements that will not happen in (Bronze) but rather only way higher Queues, or PRO teams.

. Zero Communication in champion select . Random ADC champion Lock

I would end up feeding just as bad, Last Season I did awful I had a page where I played with "Slow Players" and players who had no idea how to play with me in a bot lane all "Solo Queue" and I feed like crazy 20+ Deaths in many of my games if you can't remember that, This season "Since Role Selection" I have been doing nothing but playing "Solo Roles" and because of the new system, I have not fed as much compared to what I would do if forced into a role or Trolled like today, there is like one game in my match history where I did god awful myself in a solo role simply because the champion is not my type of play and having to deal with this idiot today.

The point is getting like 1 Bad Game where I feed like crazy because of an Obvious Troll in my game should not trigger an automatic 2 week suspension regardless of me refusing to change game-play and doing awful because of it.

If I would have been playing something else not lane specific I think I could have done better than my 0/14 score, but being screwed over like this with zero jungle clear really screwed me over and screwed over everyone else, not to mention the guy who did take my top lane feed like 8 deaths themselves in a 1v1 should be obvious of what was going on, and hopefully Riot will review the match history and see that I am correct about this.

** Also doesn't help the fact that I typed /mute all at the start of the game because I don't want to hear toxic players, that means I can't hear anything anyone says, which is for a good reason, but even if (X) Player was trying to tell me something it wouldn't be possible for me to hear it anyways, because I don't want to hear it, and honestly I don't care if I am liked or not by everyone, I am here to play the game and nothing more, I take the game seriously until the point where players just flat out don't care then I don't care either I am not saying I don't try to play or win the games ,but I mean I won't make a big deal over a loss of a game either.**

But I am saying in this specific game its either.

1.) Play and Risk Feeding aka my only option is solo roles only aka (Top) from start the way it was planned. (Mid if changing champion/ rune layout.)

2.) Jungle, and likely feeding as I did not intentional just the fact my champion has no clear, and was built for specific lane phase.

3.) GO AFK and get banned by leave buster perhaps I would have just got a warning instead if I did this given the fact I don't leave my games.

TL:DR? I have started posting this users name and link on all other forums related to LOL Trolls for their in game griefing behavior its something I take very seriously, and I hope Riot will address the issue. In other words if feeding ia game hard like this because of a Troll stealing role, then there should be an option to report for Role Steal since Riot gave us the tools to fix this toxic behavior, and it should be treated just as bad.