Riot's Ban system

Wife In Lantern·10/22/2017, 8:02:47 AM·17 votes·5,383 views

So i just came out of a platinum 1 game with a 44-42 score. The game started out extremely well with all lanes winning and a lead of 21-2 by the 15 minute mark. This is when the enemy team decided to start baron. My nidalee tried to steal it but pulled a very poor smite and died early. Our vayne decided it was a good idea to point out that nidalee had "over 1k games played" The two argued from the 20 minute mark all the way to the 35 minute mark going as far as to sit in base and type nonstop. I acted in the most positive way i could telling the team we needed to group and type less. They just wouldn't listen. by the 30 minute mark the enemy team had another baron and vayne quite literally ran into the enemy base during a teamfight and danced in front of a 10 health nexus without ending the game. The enemy team won the teamfight and pushed into our base, ending the game. A few weeks ago i met a very annoying veigar who would come to bot lane, w q the wave and then leave. As i was very aggravated i told him to "kys" simply because i had reached the limit to my frustration being 1/5, pushed in 24/7, dove under turret, and then 70 cs behind the enemy laner. I get a 14 day ban after that game and also find out that because i was banned after 8/2/2017, i won't be receiving my border or victorious skin.

My point? The fact that people like the vayne and nidalee can pull something as preposterous as that and not be penalized for is just ridiculous while 1 comment that holds very little meaning behind it can be punished so severely. Some may think that i must be a consistently toxic player to be given a 14 day ban. The last chat restriction i received from riot was during season 5.

I don't really know what to say at this point. I just really hope riot thinks before they do something.

68 Comments

Rainfall10/22/2017, 12:53:15 PM12 votes

Well its easier for Riot to put a bot in the game that checks your chat logs and bans you if it finds certain keywords than to ban trolls or intentional feeders. I got my main account permabanned last year,getting permabanned is not that big of a deal you just create a new account stomping new players in normal games then stomping new players in ranked games until you reach your original rank.Its kind of ironic that the only people actually punished by permabans are the ones spending money in the game.I never understood permabans and i guess i never will.

themachamp10/22/2017, 8:44:46 AM10 votes

Yeah, the system is great at banning people who type anything that might be the least bit "hurtful", but it sucks so bad catching the real trolls/int/active afkers/baiters/ etc. I mean if they focus on the real source of most "verbal abuse" then league would be much better and a lot of innocent players wouldn't get banned. It's actually very rare to see a legit verbal abuser that is not preceded by some sort of trolling or some other in game action that is against the summoner's code.

GrYMonFire10/23/2017, 3:11:47 PM6 votes

The penalty system is broken and riot don't care.

I've been permabanned for less than this. I didn't even get a chat ban before hand. Straight ban said I was inting more or less. Nevermind

sanshaoye10/22/2017, 8:37:44 AM5 votes

i love seeing posts like these. provides counter to the BS narrative going around that the system is working great. somehow we're supposed to believe the official narrative that this extreme speech policing system is endorsed by over 90% of the player base lmao

KVbqbFsC8e10/22/2017, 8:13:54 AM3 votes

Its nice to see more and more posts about this issue recently. Maybe Riot will finally do something about it.

Silent Gravity10/22/2017, 9:12:57 AM3 votes

Arguing for 15 minutes strait would also generally lead to a punishment.

Kys isn't an acronym with 'very little meaning behind it'. It's telling someone to end their life. If you want to express mild annoyance, there are myriad other phrases you can use.

You noticed that one minorly toxic criticism lead to a 15 minute flame-fest, and a purposefully lost game after a really good start. Why would you choose to jump all the way to 'kys' in a game where your team is already at a severe disadvantage?

KLËÐ10/22/2017, 7:49:27 PM3 votes

Its 2017. People everywhere need a "safe space" or they are going to cry. Riot is just giving the social justice they need. But as for the feeders and trolls. Like in real like the hard working people get screwed over and if they get mad it gets turn on them for saying a hurtful comment.

Drugoth10/22/2017, 2:37:46 PM2 votes

This exact same thing happened to me in a game last night. The enemy Vayne was standing right by our 200 health nexus, waiting for us to res to farm some more kills and threw the game. We came back hard and won. It felt really good to have that comeback being on my side, but I can imagine the Vayne's team was extremely frustrated at her and cussed her out and reported her after the game.

Now for the good news: Tantram (Lead player behavior tech) is hard at work on a new system to detect this kind of gameplay trolling. Hang in there!

Also, as an aside as kind of a tip for you, if you got nothing nice or constructive to say, I suggest saying nothing at all.

JIMMYPOPALI10/22/2017, 7:08:20 PM1 votes

I don't post very often, or at all to be honest. Now I have been playing this game since pre season 1. I have over 5000 games played and yea I am still a dog shit player. But in that crazy amount of time I have never once had any bans or restrictions or any sort of disciplinary action taken to me.

Yes I have just left games, but I don't really play ranked.

Yes I have lost my shit on someone, but I have never said kys.... and I may be old Because I had to Google what that meant.

And finally I have trolled games where someone just annoyed me so I kept dying.

The point I am getting at here is Riot knows people are just humans and no one is perfect, to get a 14 day ban there must be underlying circumstances or I guess racial/sexist/bigotry comments just get immediately punished. Which I'm perfectly ok with.

If you feel the need to bully someone over a video game because you are unhappy about how a game went, well you might need to find a new hobby. Take up yoga or some shit like that. Because after the 20-40 min long game it ends and nothing you can say or do will change the out come

So chill out, relax and enjoy your time playing the game

Enderkk10/23/2017, 10:55:37 PM1 votes
  1. You deserve to be banned. 2.Filing false reports against people makes your current reports less and less meaningful to them. These people you describe do deserve to get banned and they might have but you didn`t get the message because your reports are meaningless.

Thats my theory for why you didnt get "Instant Report Feedback".

Sorry that you don`t get your rewards, that sucks brother.

[zombie-nunu-tears]

Hit on eboys10/23/2017, 7:49:06 AM1 votes

My account got permabanned about 1-2 months ago. I only said these things because my jg and adc kept trolling me. I do regret some of the things I said, but shouldn't there be a better penalty than a perma? Trundle called me bronze, so I called him bronze back? Classic league remarks eh? I feel like I'm the new tyler1.. I get easily tilted sigh. Maybe I should've muted them. Damn my ego there lol ... idk what to do.

Game 1 Ryuuki: no im trash ; - ; Ryuuki: fun game Ryuuki: wtf Ryuuki: vayne Ryuuki: o Ryuuki: omg Ryuuki: im afking Ryuuki: if you fuck up Ryuuki: one more fukking Ryuuki: time Ryuuki: with no map awareness Ryuuki: and trundle Ryuuki: you bronze Ryuuki: why chase Ryuuki: when shyv Ryuuki: didnt have flash Ryuuki: right infront of you? Ryuuki: greedy? Ryuuki: ff 15min Ryuuki: sure Ryuuki: ill report you Ryuuki: shyv was beside you Ryuuki: why flash Ryuuki: for Ryuuki: galio Ryuuki: and there was 3 of us? Ryuuki: are you dumb? Ryuuki: sigh Ryuuki: bronze Ryuuki: lux pls win mid Ryuuki: this vayne Ryuuki: cant Ryuuki: carry Ryuuki: sure Ryuuki: why do i have a mastery 7? Ryuuki: i wish i did Ryuuki: ops Ryuuki: shyv Ryuuki: ? Ryuuki: flash me Ryuuki: trundle Ryuuki: you Ryuuki: why didnt you go in Ryuuki: . Ryuuki: tell him that Ryuuki: im done Ryuuki: if you cant fucking Ryuuki: listten Ryuuki: to my ping Ryuuki: its this Ryuuki: fucking Ryuuki: i didnt take cs Ryuuki: i pinged you to come and help me Ryuuki: and you didnt? Ryuuki: youre trolling me Ryuuki: bcus Ryuuki: i was plat Ryuuki: last season Ryuuki: feel the wrath. Ryuuki: dw lux Ryuuki: ill be back Ryuuki: soon Ryuuki: just dont die Ryuuki: fuck Ryuuki: these %%%%s Ryuuki: shyv this vaynes trash Ryuuki: just go kill her Ryuuki: ? Ryuuki: tell her Ryuuki: to Ryuuki: shut Ryuuki: up Ryuuki: vayne are you ok Ryuuki: look at my history Ryuuki: she muted me so.. Ryuuki: i can make you win Ryuuki: if i afk :) Ryuuki: tell this vayne Ryuuki: to stop Ryuuki: bitching Ryuuki: when i stopped Ryuuki: its time to mute her Ryuuki: lux just stay in the back Ryuuki: idc about this vayne Ryuuki: this trundle Ryuuki: and vayne Ryuuki: are duos Ryuuki: sigh Ryuuki: kog Ryuuki: Can you switch

Best Vi Earth10/23/2017, 9:02:37 AM1 votes

i understand man. my smurf got a chat restriction for 10 games never have it had any sort of punishment before. wheres my warning for that account? nope didnt get one .no warnings just stripped my rewards from me. riot really is dropping the ball here.[zombie-brand-facepalm]

SilentBomber10/23/2017, 11:52:18 AM1 votes

Hi dudes.I was away for almost 6 months because of my work.I started playing ranked again 4-5 days ago.I was Gold 5 and just got demoted to Silver 1.YES.You need a freaking number of games to get demoted from gold to silver.

You can check my match history.From my last 20 games only 3 or for 4 victories.Every game with griefing players farming bot lane 24/24 when their top lane was already split pushing or afk players staying in our base to dance!Yes in some games i was bad,but between having a poor performance and griefing or quiting the game has a huge difference.

My point?Even after 6 months of being away the situation is the same or even worse!Did i mention those guys that refuse to play their support role?Did i mention that they steal others's role or troll by going Riven support and such?

Gg...

Mythbuster78910/23/2017, 3:26:34 PM1 votes

i got banned cuz i spammed ez 10 times

Aaptor10/23/2017, 5:49:42 PM1 votes

I feel you bud, I have faced this dark side of Riot recently as well when I told "kys" as a joke to the enemy midlaner (don't worry we were already having banter in the chat) and because of this I have a 14 day ban. I am an honour lvl 5, I was really friendly during the entire game and I didn't even have a reason to be mad enough to say "kys" since everyone was nice and we were winning and I haven't ever even gotten a chat restriction before this. I made a ticket but it takes Riot AGES to respond to each of my comments and I swear they are purposely focusing on things that don't even matter in order to delay the discussion ending. The system is first of all pretty ridiculous to say the least but to know that Riot Support is so bad as well is just depressing. I even made a whole post talking about this.

AdeBug10/23/2017, 10:42:34 PM1 votes

You are holding something from us, because you need to type kys, or smth similar, for at least 3 times in order to trigger such a penalty. I myself have people for saying kys 1 time and nothing happened. I'm not saying ur a consistent toxic player. I'm not saying I agree with the system either, quite the contrary. I posted against the chat filter and IFS quite a few times now, and hope one day it will be changed. Til then, it's the standing rules and you have to know those rules or face the consequences. You can still say stuff and be toxic in other ways in chat btw (if you really can't help yourself) or be perceived as such in today's sensitive world, and still have honor 5. It's certain phrases that trigger sentencing, and you already know this. Hang in there...

Don Pasquale10/22/2017, 5:44:24 PM1 votes

This is exactly my issue with Riot's tribunal. I personally do not care at all about what people say to me (and don't think anyone should, since it's just an online game and there's a mute button for a reason), but when they start purposely doing things that negatively affect my game and cause me to lose (i.e. trolling, feeding, afk'ing), they should be banned.

Unfortunately, I have only ever seen Riot ban for the former, not the latter. I have seen people purposely run down mid and go 0/15/0 in ranked, and not be punished at all. I would much rather have people banned for causing me to lose than for telling me to kms, or at least see people banned for both. But that's just not the way their tribunal works. To be fair, it's a lot easier to look through chat logs for keywords than to scan gameplay, and I guess they assume those that troll also verbally abuse. But that's definitely not always the case, and it doesn't mean Riot couldn't design a better system if they wanted to.

14cminurmum10/22/2017, 4:40:10 PM1 votes

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