Undeniable proof that trolls do NOT get banned

slippykitten··31 votes·32,942 views

I have loved this game for a long time, but over the years the troll problem has gotten worse and worse and Riot has done NOTHING to address it at all. Any effort they make is on banning the people that get frustrated at the trolls and say naughty words. Every time i bring this up though, it is claimed that Riot is banned trolls and that my experiences must be all delusion.

So i decided to troll. I decided to troll every ranked game until i got banned. I used all the trolling techniques. I built as troll as possible intentionally, i purposely fed, i would steal as many kills as possible and then go afk, i would afk farm the jg until my team lost, i would NEVER group with my team, i would ALWAYS steal a role or position in champ select, and then fill it with the worst possible champ, and** i would do anything and everything in my power to make my team have as miserable a game as possible, EVERY SINGLE GAME until i got banned. ** I didnt just play badly, i played intentionally detrimental to my team and their moral. In fact, probably at least 25% of the games, i played good on purpose, only to go afk with all the gold and make my team lose.

Guess what, 250 ranked games, not a single ban. I ruined the gaming experience for 2,250 players, i negatively impacted matchmaking by single handedly altering the mmr of 2,250 players, i wasted at LEAST 937 hours of other peoples time. The only punishment i received was a chat ban before i started trolling because i was upset i was getting trolled and i got leaverbustered when my entire team lagged out. **But NOT ONE SINGLE PUNISHMENT, or even warning, for trolling the living crap out of everyone all the time. **

I did all the things that cause players to hate this game, and made every game i was in miserable, and I'm sure i garnered thousands of reports, but not even so much as a warning. This made me sick to stomach to do, but Riot has continued to deny this is a problem and promote delusional statistics to cover it up, and the only way to prove trolls don't get banned was to become a troll. I didn't enjoy becoming what has caused me so much frustration, but something, something batman quote.

This is unacceptable, this is atrocious, this is without defense. This account should have been banned within 5 games of trolling. This account should be permabanned, but instead got zero punishment for trolling.

I'm done with trolling now, i have proven my point. If riot and the community still want to pretend like it isnt a problem, then they can go ahead and let thousands upon thousands of games get trolled every day with no recourse. If Riot wants to read this and then ban my account now, great? But its pointless now, as the damage is already done and i wont be trolling anymore, but at least banning me now would prove they care even a little about trolls.

It's been 5 full seasons riot, and i have played every one of them, and the troll problem has never been worse. The only difference is now i know if i dare say a word to the trolls, i'll get banned. I would be really curious to know how many players got banned for raging on me during those 250 games, but im sure that would just make me that much more disgusted with you.

tl;dr - I trolled 250 ranked games with no punishment to prove Riot does absolutely nothing to address trolls.

Edit: I just want to point out that someone from Riot saw this and decided "naw, let him go, he doesnt verbally abuse his teammates so its cool"

96 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram19 votes

Give me a link to match history where you intentionally fed/trolled?

I watched your replays, and didn't really see anything besides 'poor play'.

I'm curious to see where the gaps in detection were.

Tortferngatr2 votes

...This is an old thread. O_O

Azrael0052 votes

threads a year old. but yeah... his sentiment isn't wrong.

Proxiimus3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g047OoEn,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2016-12-13T21:40:30.541+0000)

Give me a link to match history where you intentionally fed/trolled?

I watched your replays, and didn't really see anything besides 'poor play'.

I'm curious to see where the gaps in detection were.

Yorick Tantrams Favorite champ judging by thread resurrection.

Myrmiron1 votes

"Riot Tantram"? More like "Riot Necromaster". :^)

President Swa1n1 votes

^ Proof that Tantram WILL drop the mic on EVERY false post on PBM regardless of how long it will take.

Gandeloft3 votes

This thread is old, you know.
He did say he will stop trolling, you know. I know of 4 cases of people who had consistenly trolled, and those are 4 cases that fit in the criteria of having had trolled 10 consecutive games, and all have trolled to a vastly greater extent.
If not for that "criteria", the list would go over a hundred people, but I don't bother myself with memorising those names. The 4 people I'm mentioning are all people I know from real life. 1 did it for the EXACT SAME REASON as the OP of this thread. No penalisation of any kind hit him during the period he had trolled in.

slippykitten10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g047OoEn,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2016-12-13T21:40:30.541+0000)

Give me a link to match history where you intentionally fed/trolled?

I watched your replays, and didn't really see anything besides 'poor play'.

I'm curious to see where the gaps in detection were.

Do you really think commenting on a year and half old post looking for match history makes you look like you care? Because that's kinda ridiculous... IDK how to get match history from that long ago, but if you can't find out, I'm sure I can't. Maybe somebody should have taken a look at this when it happened...

Cowseed2 votes

Oh... so this is what triggered your recent post

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Wow good job, just slam that ad hominem fallacy as hard as you can and hope that nobody notices you still have provided no proof.

higura1 votes

can we please stop necro threats made 2 years ago?, k thx...

Jubbinaut14 votes

So they didn't catch you. Lucky you.

All that proves is that they don't catch every troll. Which no one has ever genuinely argued.

slippykitten9 votes

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So they didn't catch you. Lucky you.

All that proves is that they don't catch every troll. Which no one has ever genuinely argued.

Every troll? each game is a chance, they had 250 chances, which means they would have to catch less than .5% of trolls which is unacceptable in its own right. But not catching someone trolling 250 games consecutively? you cant possible argue that any reasonable system would miss 250 consecutive games of trolling with several reports on each, could you?

Jubbinaut17 votes

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Every troll? each game is a chance, they had 250 chances, which means they would have to catch less than .5% of trolls which is unacceptable in its own right. But not catching someone trolling 250 games consecutively? you cant possible argue that any reasonable system would miss 250 consecutive games of trolling with several reports on each, could you?

I think you misunderstand my point.

You claim that you've proven that Riot doesn't ban trolls - as in, they ban zero trolls. But you have a sample size of one troll, which is not nearly a large enough sample size to make such a sweeping claim. What you have truly proven is that their system is not 100% effective (because a single contrary sample is all that's necessary to contradict an absolutist statement).

If we expand that sample to two trolls - by adding the OP of this thread - we suddenly see a 50/50 ratio (and has the side note of being the single contrary sample necessary to contradict your own absolutist statement).

To be very clear, I am not saying that Riot bans half of all the trolls out there. I don't know what the actual success rate is, there, and I wouldn't try to imply otherwise. I simply wish to emphasize this point: arbitrarily small sample sizes yield results that can be extremely misdirecting.

So what do these cases show with certainty? Only that Riot's system is neither an absolute failure, nor an absolute success. As with most things, it lies somewhere between - though where, exactly, would require significantly more data to determine.

slippykitten5 votes

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I think you misunderstand my point.

You claim that you've proven that Riot doesn't ban trolls - as in, they ban zero trolls. But you have a sample size of one troll, which is not nearly a large enough sample size to make such a sweeping claim. What you have truly proven is that their system is not 100% effective (because a single contrary sample is all that's necessary to contradict an absolutist statement).

If we expand that sample to two trolls - by adding the OP of this thread - we suddenly see a 50/50 ratio (and has the side note of being the single contrary sample necessary to contradict your own absolutist statement).

To be very clear, I am not saying that Riot bans half of all the trolls out there. I don't know what the actual success rate is, there, and I wouldn't try to imply otherwise. I simply wish to emphasize this point: arbitrarily small sample sizes yield results that can be extremely misdirecting.

So what do these cases show with certainty? Only that Riot's system is neither an absolute failure, nor an absolute success. As with most things, it lies somewhere between - though where, exactly, would require significantly more data to determine.

This isnt one troll. Each game is a sample, thus it is 250 trolls, unique to each game. None of the people i saw, i ever saw again. So for each of them, it was one troll. 2,250 different people were trolled, and many of them definitely reported me.

That likely gives riot 250 games that they could have caught a troll, but did not. If i trolled once and didnt get banned, thats an anomaly, if you do it 250 times, it is a test. If i repeat a test 250 consecutive times with the same result, the results are pretty certain at that point.

Jubbinaut12 votes

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This isnt one troll. Each game is a sample, thus it is 250 trolls, unique to each game.

It's important to recognize that to Riot, there's only one troll. One account. One player. One set of reports. One case. Ergo, one troll.

Your sample size of trolls is 1. Out of 67+ million players (0.0000014925% of the total). Pretty small sample.

But if you want to talk about your sample size of trolled games, we can do that, too. But first, to establish some baseline comparisons:

Assuming ~30 minutes per game, your 250 games covers 125 hours, or about 5 days (rounded down).

There are approximately 27 million players active each day. I'll arbitrarily assume they play an average of 1.5 games, giving us a rough estimate of 40.5 million games per day. Assuming you played all 250 games consecutively (an obviously false assumption that leans in your favor), over the course of your 5 days of trolling, we have a total of 202.5 million games.

So your sample size of trolled games is 250 out of 202.5 million games (0.0001234568% of the total). Larger, but still incredibly small.


If you don't mind, I'm going to close with this final statement: Please stop assuming that simply because I'm pointing out a flaw in your logic and conclusion that I disagree with you.

For the purposes of posting here, I do not care whether you are right or wrong. I do, however, care that your premises and arguments do not support your conclusion. Because only by recognizing that, can you seek to rectify it, thereby strengthening your position.

S on Ma Chest6 votes

Hey get off your elitest high horse kid. You may seem intelligent to the retards that play this trash game but your logic is shit. His point is valid. He' s saying that he trolled 250 games in a row and never got punished. Your response was grouping him with every single player to play the game and showing him astronomically small numbers? No. His point is that he trolled 250 games IN A ROW meaning that he is probably among a very few portion of players to troll THAT many games consecutively, if at all. Thus, his percantile of being categorized would be extremely high for his account considering he hasn't been punished. His whole point is that if the system can not catch someone purposely trolling 250 games in a row, how the hell is it suppose to successfully catch others trolling if they do it every once in a while. Stop posting degrading and condescending quotes and keep your attitude to yourself. I can see why your a riot moderator BTW.

So if you continue to use your argument, your saying that EVERY PLAYER, IN EVERY GAME. Trolls. Which is not true.

OR

It is true, and either way his point is still valid.

If you don't mind, I'm going to close with this final statement: Please stop assuming that <--- see how I copy pasted your trash attitude ending quote :D
you are smarter than you are. You are mathematically and ideologically wrong. Have a good day hipster.

DeBlueSeven1 votes

I agree with you. He acted smart because he is arrogant, however arrogance does occasionally equals outright illogical statements as in this case. Good job in catching him.

Coldlance2 votes

67+ million players,,in your dream!! wtf you say there?

Afeyvegan8 votes

Thank you for doing this. I'm very sorry that so many people are stupid and not realizing the implications of your post. The guy who keeps insisting that you trolling over 250 games is just 1 troll is so stupid... he doesn't understand probability at all.

250 games and no ban for trolling is a fucking disgrace. This game is such a joke now. You hit the nail on the head. People can do whatever the fuck they want to make the game a worse experience for you. The only difference now is that if you dare to open your mouth and swear (despite the fact that there is a language filter AND A MUTE BUTTON) you get banned. My main account was plat 5 and I had been playing it since season 2. In the four years on that account, I had been banned for a day or two periods several times. Then suddenly after the new system came out, I was jumped to a permaban. Why? Because in several games I was foolish enough to open my mouth and yell at people who intentionally trolled/threw the game because they were mad that they didn't get ganks or didn't get the roles that they wanted.

I wish Riot would take your post seriously. You have created undeniable proof that this new system is broken. This game is WORSE than it was before they started trying to implement changes. Honestly, it's sad that a company that pours money into their departments to fix this stuff can get things so wrong. They've decided to push for a G rated game environment where you can fuck over your team however much you like so long as you keep your language G rated.

I have never played another video game where cursing is met with such obscenely harsh punishments. I played xbox live for years and those halo matches haha - they were littered with swearing.

Anyway, thanks for making this post. Seriously. Nobody else seems to appreciate it but I want to tell you that I do. You've helped make me realize it's not worth leveling this alt to 30. The same shit will just happen again. Trolls can do whatever they want. Riot has decided to be lazy and use an automated system. An automated system simply cannot account for in game behavior; it can only account for what is said in chat.

I don't know why I stuck around for so long. This game has a really strange capacity to pull you in even when you aren't having fun. There are no other games that I would sit and play for hours despite being miserable in each one. It's as if you desperately keep restarting matches, hoping for ONE good game to justify the hours you've spent playing that night.

Honestly, I know very few people who play league who actually truly enjoy it. At most it's like moderate enjoyment when it's good. But when it's bad, I know tons of people who have a horrible time. Who get absolutely furious and frustrated. The bad just completely outweighs the good, and that's all Riots fault.

Dota wasn't like this at all. They lost the roots of their game in their shitty devs.

venomous frost2 votes

match history looks as much tryhard as i've ever seen in my life tho

slippykitten1 votes

[{quoted}](name=venomous frost,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g047OoEn,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-18T18:53:34.575+0000)

match history looks as much tryhard as i've ever seen in my life tho

Thats what im saying, i did all kinds of things, some i even got really fed, but i still made the game miserable for my own team and tried to make them lose, which i was mostly successful at. It isnt just about running into enemy tower and feeding, most people dont do that. It's about intentionally losing the game AND making your own team miserable.

Icy Spectre3 votes

Exactly, it pisses me off when people say "I'll go troll" then just go feed 20 kills instead of actually trolling, which I could at least enjoy to some extent, because unlike intentional feeding, trolling is true art.

Beas7ie1 votes

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Thats what im saying, i did all kinds of things, some i even got really fed, but i still made the game miserable for my own team and tried to make them lose, which i was mostly successful at. It isnt just about running into enemy tower and feeding, most people dont do that. It's about intentionally losing the game AND making your own team miserable.

But the problem here is. If someone is being a "smart troll" and sneakily inting, how would Riot be able to tell the difference between that and someone who is just plain bad at the game, or at least just having an off day.

Subdue1 votes

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But the problem here is. If someone is being a "smart troll" and sneakily inting, how would Riot be able to tell the difference between that and someone who is just plain bad at the game, or at least just having an off day.

Yea, I was thinking the same thing. How would Riot, either via automated process or even by manual review tell the difference between these kinds of trolling and actual poor play?

Zielmann2 votes

They've had automated systems in place for a while now to catch verbal abuse and leavers/afks. The systems have become pretty efficient, and will dole out bans fairly quickly.

In-game behavior is a lot more difficult of a task, but they are rolling out an automated system to catch some forms of in-game trolling. There are so many ways to go about this, though, that the system will still be learning for quite some time.

In many cases, in-game behavior isn't paired with any admission or evidence in the chat. So the system can only rely on reports to build up cases against these people. And even then, it can be difficult to prove after-the-fact. Frankly, the best way to figure this out would be to actually go back and watch the matches in question.

slippykitten2 votes

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They've had automated systems in place for a while now to catch verbal abuse and leavers/afks. The systems have become pretty efficient, and will dole out bans fairly quickly.

In-game behavior is a lot more difficult of a task, but they are rolling out an automated system to catch some forms of in-game trolling. There are so many ways to go about this, though, that the system will still be learning for quite some time.

In many cases, in-game behavior isn't paired with any admission or evidence in the chat. So the system can only rely on reports to build up cases against these people. And even then, it can be difficult to prove after-the-fact. Frankly, the best way to figure this out would be to actually go back and watch the matches in question.

If a person gets reported by his entire team 250 games in a row for trolling, and the system STILL cant figure out hes trolling, then the system is basically useless.

The point is this, most of verbal abuse comes from trolling, so continuing to catch more and more verbal abuse without even addressing trolls at all only makes toxicity worse.

Zielmann2 votes

You don't know you were reported every game. You were still winning matches in that time (appears to be about 50/50, even). Your teammates might well have just given you the benefit of the doubt that you made a mistake and not reported you. You might just be bad at trolling.

Also, I would believe that people are more likely to report somebody on their team after a loss than a win. People tend to want to blame the loss on something, and reporting a troll or toxic player is a good way to vent that energy. After a tough win, they might just be relieved enough at the win that they leave the post-game chat quickly and forget to report.

But like I said, the systems to detect problematic in-game behavior are rolling out now, and will continually improve. The reason they catch more verbal abuse is because it's easier to detect more quickly because they have an established system in place that's fairly efficient at catching these. Would you prefer that they had waited to launch any automated system at all, until they had one set up to detect each possible scenario?

slippykitten2 votes

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You don't know you were reported every game. You were still winning matches in that time (appears to be about 50/50, even). Your teammates might well have just given you the benefit of the doubt that you made a mistake and not reported you. You might just be bad at trolling.

Also, I would believe that people are more likely to report somebody on their team after a loss than a win. People tend to want to blame the loss on something, and reporting a troll or toxic player is a good way to vent that energy. After a tough win, they might just be relieved enough at the win that they leave the post-game chat quickly and forget to report.

But like I said, the systems to detect problematic in-game behavior are rolling out now, and will continually improve. The reason they catch more verbal abuse is because it's easier to detect more quickly because they have an established system in place that's fairly efficient at catching these. Would you prefer that they had waited to launch any automated system at all, until they had one set up to detect each possible scenario?

How about over a year ago when if you got reported for trolling enough you would go to the tribunal and punished by your peers? Then they removed it.

If you think its because riot is "working on it" and just doesnt have the time or resources to roll it out yet, you are naive and delusional. They have intentionally removed systems of detecting trolls with nothing added to help it.

But the game has existed for 7 years, lets get real, if they wanted to have a system to detect trolls, they would at least have something by now.

Zielmann3 votes

The tribunal was a very important development by them back when they did it. But currently it would have a bit less purpose. Data from the tribunal is what Riot used to help develop the automated systems that have replaced it at this point. And when they bring it back in the future, that'll probably still be the main purpose.

We have automated systems in place to handle the 'easy' cases. The verbal abuse, the negativity, even the times where players announce they're going AFK or feeding or whatnot. But the Tribunal was never good at dealing with toxic gameplay patterns. Once again, these are the sort of thing where you'd really have to be there to verify that it happened. Best-case scenario, you would have some context in chat by the other players (preferably the other team), and maybe some comments put in by those who reported. But comments were few and far between in the tribunal, so it's far from reliable.

But now, they've been able to analyze enough gameplay data in these scenarios to be able to start automatically detecting toxic gameplay as well. And it's taken this long because they want to be as careful as possible to eliminate false positives by the system.

They haven't had the staff for 7 years to tackle these kinds of things. Probably only the last 3 or so, realistically. And it takes a LOT of data, data analysis, and development to build a system that picks up the subtleties of toxic vs. regular gameplay with no false positives. If you think it's that easy, apply for a job with Riot and you can build the system for them.

slippykitten1 votes

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The tribunal was a very important development by them back when they did it. But currently it would have a bit less purpose. Data from the tribunal is what Riot used to help develop the automated systems that have replaced it at this point. And when they bring it back in the future, that'll probably still be the main purpose.

We have automated systems in place to handle the 'easy' cases. The verbal abuse, the negativity, even the times where players announce they're going AFK or feeding or whatnot. But the Tribunal was never good at dealing with toxic gameplay patterns. Once again, these are the sort of thing where you'd really have to be there to verify that it happened. Best-case scenario, you would have some context in chat by the other players (preferably the other team), and maybe some comments put in by those who reported. But comments were few and far between in the tribunal, so it's far from reliable.

But now, they've been able to analyze enough gameplay data in these scenarios to be able to start automatically detecting toxic gameplay as well. And it's taken this long because they want to be as careful as possible to eliminate false positives by the system.

They haven't had the staff for 7 years to tackle these kinds of things. Probably only the last 3 or so, realistically. And it takes a LOT of data, data analysis, and development to build a system that picks up the subtleties of toxic vs. regular gameplay with no false positives. If you think it's that easy, apply for a job with Riot and you can build the system for them.

"But the Tribunal was never good at dealing with toxic gameplay patterns."

With zero data to back it up.... Riiiiight

However, im thinking that the system that brought people with multiple reports for trolling was superior to the current nothing that is done for trolling.

Don't tell me there are systems, there is NOTHING for trolls, nothing at all.

But its ok, i assumed that there would still be people that would deny that trolls exist even when presented with one face to face. Trolled 250 ranked games straight, no punishment, you still say Riot is taking care of trolls. It really doesnt get more blind than that.

ModPrandine1 votes

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"But the Tribunal was never good at dealing with toxic gameplay patterns."

With zero data to back it up.... Riiiiight

However, im thinking that the system that brought people with multiple reports for trolling was superior to the current nothing that is done for trolling.

Don't tell me there are systems, there is NOTHING for trolls, nothing at all.

But its ok, i assumed that there would still be people that would deny that trolls exist even when presented with one face to face. Trolled 250 ranked games straight, no punishment, you still say Riot is taking care of trolls. It really doesnt get more blind than that.

Hypocrite much? We could say the same thing about you, especially since you admitted to trolling many games and eventually getting punished because of it. If the troll detecting systems could get you then they can certainly get others. Don't believe me? Just ask the people who got banned for being jerks (whether by being a verbally abusive jerk, an in-game troll or a combination of both).

slippykitten2 votes

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Hypocrite much? We could say the same thing about you, especially since you admitted to trolling many games and eventually getting punished because of it. If the troll detecting systems could get you then they can certainly get others. Don't believe me? Just ask the people who got banned for being jerks (whether by being a verbally abusive jerk, an in-game troll or a combination of both).

Did you even read the post? I did NOT get banned, despite trolling 250 games straight.

Being a jerk in chat and trolling are different things. I never claimed chat wasnt monitored, it is, and if anything, too closely.

Actual gameplay trolling is never addressed, which i did, 250 games in a row, without any punishment at all.

Zielmann2 votes

I regularly voted in the Tribunal back when it was up. I saw cases where people had been reported for in-game actions rather than chat. Intentional feeding in extreme cases was easy to catch. Instances where the person announces their intentions in chat are easy to catch. But there were some where it was just impossible to tell. If I was lucky enough to have several descriptions of the behavior included in the reports, sometimes I would vote to punish if the behavior seemed consistent across all or most of the games in the case.

But I can tell you that in many cases, those last ones were the types of reports that were getting a pass in the system. Because there simply isn't any evidence in the limited amount of information available in a tribunal case.

Also, they recently rolled out automatic detection for intentional feeding, so actually, you can't tell me that they're not doing anything.

Other trolling behavior is on their radar as well. But it's going to be extremely complicated to automatically distinguish between trolling and behavior that's okay. Were those two people running double-jungle for fun, or did somebody have their role 'stolen' in champ select, so they just decided to take a jungler and follow the other guy the whole time? Is that duo top lane a strategic pick, or did somebody get left with the jungle position after calling top, and they refused to take it? Is that Bard intentionally ulting his allies to prevent them from doing productive things or not?

In the meantime, the best way to detect this sort of thing is really with manual reviews of the games in question, which is largely up to Riot to do. The good thing, though, is that with automated systems in place for catching many other types of behavior, they might have more time to try to deal with these cases of trolling.

I mean, what's your goal here anyhow? A congratulations that you proved that Riot doesn't have a system in place to catch a behavior that they've never claimed to have systems in place for?

Colgate Gator2 votes

The funny thing is, you have no proof.

I pulled your games from up to a month ago and there's no sign of trolling, just some bad games, but nothing noteworthy, and you provide no evidence but your rant in your post, so your "proof" is nothing more than your claim without anything to back it up other than a random stranger's word on the internet.

I downvoted without commenting, but decided to come back and say that.

slippykitten3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Postal Badger,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g047OoEn,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2016-06-16T19:48:07.057+0000)

The funny thing is, you have no proof.

I pulled your games from up to a month ago and there's no sign of trolling, just some bad games, but nothing noteworthy, and you provide no evidence but your rant in your post, so your "proof" is nothing more than your claim without anything to back it up other than a random stranger's word on the internet.

I downvoted without commenting, but decided to come back and say that.

You mean you pulled my games from a month ago on a 7 month old post in which I openly say I don't plan on trolling further? interesting...... except it's typical that people will downvote without reading, and then use false information to justify their delusional beliefs.

At the time of the post, I had trolled 250 straight games, dropping from silver 3 (where the account placed) to bronze 5 0lp. I was told in nearly every game that i was being reported for trolling, and it should have been caught. But you're probably right, I"m probably just lying for some reason.

NobleSteve2 votes

Just saying this is damn proof. Not too long ago I had a graves auto lock in as a jg quite some time after a shaco locks in. The shaco gets pissed and decides to feed for more then half the game then stops. He went 1 20. Yet I was suspended recently for asking my jg, mid, and supp to do better. All rito cares about are people that hurts others feeling and not the constant amount of trolls. During that game with the graves and shaco while I was ezreal, I asked my lane to be passive. So I end up going 0 0 0 and end up with an a- and most of the people in the game end up reporting me for doing that and yet nothing happened. I was two games previous of that because of the amount of toxic people annnnnnd, nothing happens toy account. Yet when I ask my team to do better THATS going too far. Obviously whoever is working the banning system has no clue whats happening in game.

jpguy9022 votes

Checked his match history, the guy is lying. Just upset he got trolled and is trying to prove a point but lacks any evidence.

slippykitten7 votes

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Checked his match history, the guy is lying. Just upset he got trolled and is trying to prove a point but lacks any evidence.

you checked my recent match history from a year old post? You're not serious right?

jpguy9021 votes

I knew I'd get a response out of you with that :p

EcstasyGragon4201 votes

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you checked my recent match history from a year old post? You're not serious right?

Wow bronze 1v1 me I'd rek u troller

Icy Spectre1 votes

Not sure why this is downvoted to shit, because it's actually true, trolls do not get punished.

I tried it out myself, yet I wasn't that huge asshole and did not do it in RANKED.

slippykitten3 votes

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Not sure why this is downvoted to shit, because it's actually true, trolls do not get punished.

I tried it out myself, yet I wasn't that huge asshole and did not do it in RANKED.

I don't mind being downvoted, but the fact that Riot saw this, didn't respond and still didn't bother to ban me is just insane.

Bettnachleger1 votes

The funny part is, I bet like 90 % of the guys you trolled don't care. (or at least anymore) Because they don't have such a sad life ;-( I really hope that you will find some friends ... outside ... real life people and stuff.

proud and bronze1 votes

lol@90% dont care. have you ever played this game?

Bettnachleger1 votes

No, what is this lol that everybody is talking about?

snake on boot2 votes

What a choice way of expressing yourself while we talk about the very same behavior you just can't stop displaying.

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