This is really sad. Can a Rioter explain what is being…

Yenn · 2016-03-03T09:18:35.604Z

This player is Diamond. This player has over 300 ranked games this season. In this particular game, it 'played' to make it look like it was trying, but it trolled all game. It was raging at our Fizz over it's last game in the lobby. When the game started, I asked it to help me at gromp and it just said 'no' At level 1, it ran into Darius and tried to auto him to death, giving him first blood. It returned to lane, and kept spamming pings on me while I jungled, spamming 'omfg jg useless.' I was level 3 Diana, at wolves. It continued to spam pings on me, and then threatened to AFK if I didn't gank. I hit level 6 and ganked; once I engaged, it just stood there spamming mastery and laugh, not helping. This shit continued for the rest of the game. http://i.imgur.com/IMCPsVA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GfTzgMt.jpg In it's match history, there are at least 7 games in the past 3 days that are obviously the same thing. Sorry, but this is retarded. I could ask why this player isn't banned, but I know why they aren't banned: because they're making it look like they're trying, even though they're obviously trolling. What is being done about this? This isn't a unique case. This shit happens constantly at Diamond. It's been three years since this behavior has become a daily occurrence, and it's only getting worse as everyone realizes that they can get away with it.

Surr20plzMar 3, 201649 votes

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in DotA, you can even take parts out of a replay to send with your report).

Thtat's awesome. Rito pls

RaoulMar 3, 20169 votes

lol, you realise RIOT isnt even competent enough to even have a simple replay system at all? Hell, we will NEVER have what DotA had from day one.

BanuvanMar 3, 201619 votes

There is a replay system already built in ( see LCS ) Rito just refuses to implement it. There are third party options though. I've seen them used on Sneaky's stream before. I don't use em myself but they are out there. Rito is just lazy and incompetent. Very slow to actually do anything they say they will ( see Solo Queue 2-3 weeks after dynamic queue ).

Hell, look how long it's taken them to get a new client.

DrCyanideMar 3, 20167 votes

There is a replay system already built in ( see LCS )

Quite the opposite, the LCS is a prime example of how we know there isn't a replay system.

The LCS uses the spectator system, which allows them to rewind in that particular match, but once the spectator client is closed, it's gone. Notice that they have to use the exact same footage for replays, from one of two view points, and they never go back to get better clips.

Using replay.gg, I've got better replays than the LCS officials.

ArlanKelsMar 3, 20161 votes

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There is a replay system already built in ( see LCS ) Rito just refuses to implement it. There are third party options though. I've seen them used on Sneaky's stream before. I don't use em myself but they are out there. Rito is just lazy and incompetent. Very slow to actually do anything they say they will ( see Solo Queue 2-3 weeks after dynamic queue ).

Hell, look how long it's taken them to get a new client.

Look how long it took for ranked dominion to get implemented...

aLawfulFalafelMar 4, 20162 votes

lmao item 3070

IqqiMar 3, 20162 votes

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in DotA, you can even take parts out of a replay to send with your report).

Thtat's awesome. Rito pls

Riot can't take anything cool from Dota. Their ego's won't let them. If they don't do it first it never gets done. Their ego's wont let them. qq

ArakadiaMar 7, 20161 votes

Like when we said they should change the color of Shens swords based on skins but they decided to ignore the great idea.

MasterSomethingMar 3, 20167 votes

This person can submit a support ticket with these pictures and he will get banned. Do you know how tough it is to have a system catch every troll? Not every Rioter can review each case of trolling themselves, and even the Tribunal was behind on reports.

lolptwoMar 3, 20168 votes

This is false, many many many times I've submitted a ticket about players just like these and find them adding me on friends list to laugh about how nothing happened to them. Maybe they got chat restricted idk, but trolling should be a 14 day ban.

I've stopped submitting tickets about people because 90% of the time they mark the ticket as "Solved" then I search up the player on a 3rd party site and never once has he been restricted from playing ranked.

So are you telling me they are chat restricting the players who are intentionally feeding, or passively aggressively trolling? Because that doesn't make sense either and is actually just counter productive.

MasterSomethingMar 3, 20161 votes

Well, chances are they do get banned and you are getting unlucky. For every 99% success rate, there is always that 1% failure rate. Case and Point: Your experience is different from everyone else's. I've never had any issues with the reporting system and have gotten many terrible people punished.

SteelflameMar 4, 20162 votes

I've reported like 20 times since the new feature that says if your report banned someone or not, and gotten that message like 6 times. Considering how it takes many games, more than 3 per set, it seems to be that it works fine.

EboybiterKDAMar 4, 20162 votes

lol 99% success rate?

look at my stats: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=eboybiterkda

look how many ranked games i trolled in season 5. I didn't play on serious game. all i did was stomp my lane than roam for kills but never push objectives. I end up losing most games cause I never help team fights and never group up while stealing kills and cs from every lane possible.

I did this for over 100 games. 100 games. in a row. you are claiming a 99% success rate of what? I see a 99% fail rate in my case.

but hey in season 6 I tested something else. I decided to be toxic. You know what happened? within 10 games I got a 2 week ban. After my two week ban i continued being toxic and got perma banned. sure 99% success in terms of chat violations. but 99% fail in terms of banning trolls.

don't just make up stats when you haven't tried trolling yourself. I have. So I know. and my ranked 5 stats/KDA is proof that I could troll as much as I want and not get banned.

MasterSomethingMar 4, 20161 votes

I know you. I also see people disprove your point easily. Roaming for kills and never grouping isn't really trolling, even if you do it intentionally. It's just playing terrible. Playing terrible is not reportable. While you did probably deserve to be punished for ruining games on purpose, the system cannot differentiate playing bad, which by anyone looking would be what they think, vs actual trolling. If you honestly wanna debate with me, you can try, but I can't take you serious if you push this point.

EboybiterKDAMar 4, 20161 votes

"the system cannot differentiate playing bad, which by anyone looking would be what they think, vs actual trolling." cause getting 100KDA (literally i got 100 KDA on a mundo) must be "playing bad". outcsing everyone and never dying must be rly bad.

heres the list of things I do every game to try and ensure a loss while staying ahead of all 9 players.

troll champ select. I will always pick a role that has already been selected. If I am last pick and only support is left, I will play top. If only top is left, I will pick a second support weakening out team by having two bad scaling supports.
I almost always get smite so that I can "pretend" to leashe but smite away the last hit. I will go lane where someone else is already laning but outcs my laning partner cause I have better mechanics.
I rack up kills/cs/jungles/buffs meaning so much of the teams gold is being pooled to me. However when there is a team fight, I dont help the team which means my team is without their most farmed player. It Is essentially 3v5.
I never push a tower or inhib. If there happens to be an ace and a great oppurtunity to push, I will go jungle.

you said it yourself "While you did probably deserve to be punished for ruining games on purpose, the system cannot differentiate playing bad, which by anyone looking would be what they think, vs actual trolling."

the system cannot detect actual trolling as long as I'm not toxic in chat. which is fail. and you are for some reason boast 99% success rate. success rate of what? succesfully ignoring a trolling play style? you can't say 99% if you are just gonna pick and select your cases.

sigh. try not to make up data and than failing rly hard in logic

MasterSomethingMar 4, 20161 votes

Aha, I think you aren't just getting reported. Riot actually does ban trolls like you. Here's my evidence: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/sU5wOfFJ-proof-that-the-automated-system-is-broken?comment=0029

EboybiterKDAMar 5, 20161 votes

how is that evidence. I am never using the chat function. And every game I have 9 people reporting me. Still played through 100's of games in season 5 without facing a single warning.

The only proof that your link is showing is that chat restrictions are delivered to people that use chat.

I don't. hence the system has a 99% fail rate against me. I mean over 100 games. that is 9 other peoples game per game i ruin. thats around 900 people all raging at me.

no ban.

hahahahaha 99% success rate of what? stop making stuff and just count my stats. that is the proof. your link was completely evident. you need to go study how to debate before failing miserably like you are.

MasterSomethingMar 5, 20161 votes

You didn't even look at the link, did you?

EboybiterKDAMar 5, 20161 votes

again. he was toxic. I dont use chat. he attracted unnecessary attention and got banned. what about me who stays quiet and just trolls 100's of games for one whole full year day after day? oh no ban. no warning. 99% fail rate.

do you even know how to read data or u like to bring up this one random case of an idiot that was toxic, got chat restricted, got his account reviewed, than got banned for his play?

rofllll. you are just like riot's ban system. 99% fail. go back to school kid.

MasterSomethingMar 5, 20161 votes

You didn't read it. He wasn't banned for toxicity. He was banned for intentional trolling. There just wasn't a proper category for it. Also, I've said this before and I will say it again: What you did, even if intentional, wasn't trolling, it was playing horribly.

EboybiterKDAMar 5, 20161 votes

it was playing horribly intentionally. do you understand the word intentionally?

did you not study that word in school?

playing horribly on purpose is throwing the game. is this also too hard to understand?

so again. 99% fail rate? ty. please keep emphasizing how I throw games intentionally and play bad on purpose. you're only proving my point. the ban system is so ass.

ty ty kid. you got owned. again. hahahahaha easy.

EboybiterKDAMar 5, 20161 votes

"bring up the damn same excuse for your argument."

the same excuse? what do you mean? you mean the fact i went over 100 games of trolling without getting banned? when it comes to facts, you only need to present one truth to disprove a theory. you believe the ban system is 99% accurate. I keep presenting my account stats to prove that it obviously isn't. Do you even know how logic works? your statement "99% accurate ban system" can not co exist with the existence of my account. It either has to be that my stats are made up or your stats are made up. and clearly I can't make up stats on op.gg or lolking so its only logical that you are completely wrong.

"Also, just because it doesn't catch your case" what do you mean "case"? you mean my over 100 cases of trolling? you see, this isnt ONE instant of trolling. Its over 100 instances of trolling that have gone unpunished. 1 game is enough to be chat banned. 1 game should ALSO be enough to ban people that are throwing games. However every single game I troll just compounds the fact that they do not catch CASES of like these. cause every game I play is another single case that people report and I get unpunished.

logic owned so hard. i feel really bad for you. sorry for destroying you.

EboybiterKDAMar 6, 20161 votes

"You know, you become a lot less credible when you spam terrible insults and bring up the damn same excuse for your argument." I only need to bring this same arguement cause its the one that proves the point. if 1+1=2 and you are saying 1+1= something else, all I have to do is say "1+1 does equal 2 because of ...." Just cause I say it over and over does not erase the truth of it.

"Also, just because it doesn't catch your case" you mean caseS. cause this isnt one case. this is 100's of cases I have from season 5. Each game I played is an individual case and the fact I went for over 100 games unpunished is quite the indicator that riot failed.

lastly try not to fail at logic anymore cause you've indicated riot can't catch a intentional game thrower and than claim it has 99% success rate. you are make me laughing too much

Nik NikersonMar 6, 20161 votes

And how does one tell the difference between a troll, and a terrible player? Particularly at very low elos? Some times its really obvious, but a lot of times it's not, and the last thing you want to do is punish innocent players just because they aren't good, or don't know what the right call is.

EboybiterKDAMar 6, 20161 votes

that's none of my concern. the only fact is I've done this for over 100's of games in season 5 indicating the ban system is flawed.

and when my KDA is 10 times better than yours (literally), that might be a tip that I know what I'm doing. especially when I get reported in all of my 100 of games.

Nik NikersonMar 6, 20161 votes

It is flawed, but until someone can come up with a system that won't punish people who aren't actually trolling, there always will be a flaws.

ArakadiaMar 7, 20161 votes

For 40 minutes an Illaoi just walked into the enemy team. All she built was boots..... Look at my ,arch history, it was a bit ago tho

Nik NikersonMar 7, 20161 votes

Like I already said, some cases are very obvious, many aren't.

Maximum MordeMar 3, 20161 votes

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Only those who finaly snap against this guy will be punished and RIOT will claim they "reduced the amount of toxic players" by banning the victims of guys like this.

Technically rages are toxic so they so reduce the number of toxic players by banning them. It just isn't getting the source.

It would be like taking water from a lake and treating it to remove toxins instead of forcing factories so stop dumping waste into the lake in the first place.

ahferroin7Mar 3, 20165 votes

It's interesting though, I see people raging exponentially more often when someone is dokng things like the individual the OP is complaining about. Some people are just naturally sensitive and/or angry, but most of the people who I encounter who are raging are being intentionally provoked.

To take your analogy further, the trolls are more akin to the companies, while the ragers are more akin to stuff like algal blooms. Algal blooms happen naturally, but they happen a whole lot more when the ecosystem is being damaged by external influence.

BattleBalladeerMar 3, 20161 votes

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These people are the true source of toxic behaviour in the game, but RIOT will do NOTHING against them. How could they? They are to incompetent to have a freaking replay system (in DotA, you can even take parts out of a replay to send with your report).

If I didn't like league's playstyle better this would be it. I would quit league instantly and join DoTA2. This is professional game design.

aLawfulFalafelMar 4, 20162 votes

not that simple for some

your forgetting that league can run SOOOO much better on toasters than dota can

my fps in dota2 : 3-5 (windowed mode to half the size of my monitor)

my fps in lol : 22-37 (windowed mode to 3/4 the size of my monitor)

-never underestimate the toaster population in league XD

La BarbotteMar 3, 20162 votes

and you get a loss prevented if you have an afk for the first 10 minues of a game

BlueBonquetMar 6, 20161 votes

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These people are the true source of toxic behaviour in the game, but RIOT will do NOTHING against them. How could they? They are to incompetent to have a freaking replay system (in DotA, you can even take parts out of a replay to send with your report).

Only those who finaly snap against this guy will be punished and RIOT will claim they "reduced the amount of toxic players" by banning the victims of guys like this.

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This is really sad. Can a Rioter explain what is being done about these players?

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