just had a person tell me kys twice and that he will kill and rape me and my family.

Arammus··39 votes·5,008 views

50 minutes later he adds me. i accept because i couldnt believe that he is not 14 day banned. and i was wondering why so many people think the report system doesnt work. it really seems to be broken!?

@tantram if you see this, it was on the euw accountname "jennifer420" (<- thats my account) and it was the vel koz where i was garen. so you dont have to search forever <3

i got screenshots btw.

https://puu.sh/zwP4u/ca6194e04f.jpg thats just after game chat.

ps: i dont want to "report" anyone here. i'd like someone from riot to tell me why this person is not banned 1 hour after saying kys twice

94 Comments

ModJikker27 votes

Hey,

I'm going to just clear up a bit of confusion in this thread real quick. First off, there is no name and shame in this thread as the OP is naming the account he encountered the toxic player on and has edited out all the names from the screen shots. Second, discussing the behavior here is fine, although I will give a reminder that the Boards are not the place to report another player. If you encounter someone in the game that is toxic and uses that sort of talk against you, always report post game and/or submit a report ticket directly to Riot. If you are truly concerned that these are actual threats, contact your local authorities and inform them of the situation.

There are many reasons why a player may not be banned right away. It could be that they received a chat restriction instead or that this is a first offense and they may have just received a warning. I know Riot has a pretty zero tolerance policy regarding people telling others to KYS, but I don't know for sure. I would submit that ticket if you want to make sure Riot sees it.

Hope that helps a bit

[poppy-wink]

SaladSavior2151 votes

why even add a player behavior Option if its not gonna be place to "report other players" without name shaming.

ModJikker2 votes

Player Behavior is for discussing the behavior of yourself, assisting others in understanding their own behavior, and talking about how to deal with other people's behavior in game. For example, if you are chat restricted and are unsure why, you can post your logs here and have the community explain and discuss what behavior you did that was unacceptable so you can work on reforming.

If you encounter toxic behavior, you can post about it here, without names to avoid name and shame, to get advice on how to deal with the behavior in game. Alternatively, you can also ask if the behavior is reportable or not and whether or not it should be.

The reason we don't want reporting here is because rarely is it seen by Rioters so the only purpose it serves is name and shame. When it comes to informing Riot, the best course of action is not to hope they see a random thread on the Boards, but rather to give them that direct report post game using the client feature or sending in a report ticket as I previously mentioned.

I hope that clears things up a bit for you.

l MoShiBa l2 votes

I played with a troll a week ago who was extremely racist and said things like "get aids retards"/ "get lynched n*****s" after games. My duo and I both reported the person directly to support with screenshots and the racist troll is still playing as of 1 hour ago. Our tickets were marked solved. My friends get banned for saying "trash" in all chat yet this person makes death threats, racist and homophobic comments, gets his games reviewed by 2 different members on riot support and is still playing games. Don't get the OP's hopes up. Yes it feels good to write to someone capable of doing something about your situation but all they will do is mark the ticket as solved. You can say and do anything as long as you aren't in game. If their automated system isn't banning them for their in-game rage, don't bother wasting your time and effort taking screenshots and writing essays to support about your experience with these types of ragers. I have a similar post in this section with screenshots of the offender in my games and he's still playing.

SaladSavior2151 votes

why don't you reply to the guy's comment? or can you not give him a reason to why your horrible punishment system failed. to be specific the guy im talking about is L MoShiBa L, he has a serious case in his hands.

ModJikker1 votes

{quoted}

why don't you reply to the guy's comment? or can you not give him a reason to why your horrible punishment system failed. to be specific the guy im talking about is L MoShiBa L, he has a serious case in his hands.

I am not sure who you are talking about. If someone has a severe case on their hands, it's best to report it to Riot directly through a ticket as I already noted in this thread. I am not a Rioter; I just volunteer on the Boards for Riot and cannot help with in game bans or lack thereof or speak of why a punishment was or was not given.

What I can do is lock this thread as bumping old threads is a violation of the Universal Rules. If you have concerns about a violation not being addressed properly, please make a new thread instead of bumping a dead one or send that ticket over to Riot.

If you wish to discuss this further or if anyone has questions about this lock, please feel free to come to the Moderation Discord.

Thanks

[poppy-wink]

D4M2X07 votes

name and shame should be allowed

Pink her Ult9 votes

It should be encouraged.

Barkley4 votes

{quoted}

It should be encouraged.

THANK YOU. I don't know why there's this big protection policy against name shaming players, especially in a situation like this.

These types of players should be hung out to dry and made an example of, if not by Riot themselves, AT LEAST by the player community. We should be able to openly express our disapproval of this kind of behavior in whatever ways are available to us.

People should be genuinely afraid of acting like this. Fear is a wonderful motivator.

Wolfeur2 votes

Because answering violence with violence doesn't work. This would just turn this board into personal vendettas and bullying.

Barkley1 votes

What the hell do you mean turn it INTO That?

Have you been on the boards? Ever?

Wolfeur1 votes

Yes, and there is enough of that without it being permitted, so imagine what it'll become if we let it be.

Barkley1 votes

And you see how effective these rules are at preventing people from literally telling each other to kill themselves and threatening to rape each others families.

This is the same mentality behind people thinking stricter gun control laws will prevent school shootings and gun crimes.

Rules only work on people who follow them. For everyone else, more extreme measures are needed.

Wolfeur2 votes

Rules make the exceptional stay exceptional. How many school shootings will you need to realize that maybe there is a reason why the country that sells weapons in supermarkets also has most (actually almost all) school shootings in the world?

Friendly Ram1 votes

That is a great name.

Player3Th0mas6 votes

If you take his words seriously you should actually contact your local police department and present them with these pictures.

Arammus8 votes

thanks i dont. and lets be honest... police would take forever and in the end nothing would happen. the thing i want an answer to is: why is this guy not banned 1 hour after saying kys twice?

P0IS0N IVY2 votes

Wasn't there a kid who got arrested for being toxic in a league game a while back?

ChuShoe2 votes

I believe this is what you're thinking of http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/27/texas-teen-makes-violent-joke-during-video-game-is-jailed-for-months/

In case you were wondering, he was released.

P0IS0N IVY5 votes

Yes, it was this guy. My point was that there is a good chance the police might do something if these pics were taken to them.

Barkley2 votes

Meh... the dude's an asshat for sure, but I'm not sure its worth giving someone a criminal record over something in a video game.

You just don't know. The dudes girlfriend could have broken up with him, his mom could have died yesterday, and he could have gotten fired from his job all in the same week and he just lost his shit for a brief moment. You don't know his story.

I don't think ruining someone's record is a suitable punishment for something that happens online with no actual physical implications.

He should be perma'd for sure, but arrested? Cmon.

P0IS0N IVY1 votes

Yeah we don't know. But if there was a random dude who was yelling at someone and saying they'd kill them, I wouldn't mind calling the cops. Anonymity shouldn't be an excuse for behavior like that.

Barkley1 votes

It shouldn't, you're absolutely right. But I don't see a couple ill-intended keystrokes on a keyboard to be a very good reason to negatively impact someones actual, real life for the next however many years. Especially without knowing anything about them.

Report him, let Riot sort him out, and move on. You didn't know him before you played this game, and you won't know him after. So why be vindictive?

P0IS0N IVY1 votes

Sure, you can give someone the benefit of the doubt. But clearly, the police don't think they should ignore death threats online. So if someone ends up getting arrested because of something they typed, I wouldn't jump to their defense and I wouldn't have an issue if a case such as this was taken to the authorities.

Barkley1 votes

I would. At what point does it turn to Minority Report where we're arresting people because we THINK they might do something?

Words are words. That's all they are. And these aren't even SPOKEN words, they're words typed on a keyboard over the internet. The probability of them actually amounting to anything is nearly insignificant.

Now if I said something along the lines that I was going to go shoot some people and "here's my plan on how to do it" then yeah, I'd expect to be investigated. The key word there is INVESTIGATED... not arrested. Innocent until proven guilty.

Any 12 year old with their mommy's laptop can talk up a big game on the internet, and if we want to take these threats seriously, we're going to need a lot more funding for police, because there's gonna be an awful lot of sexual assault cases being filed for all the "I'm gonna fuck your mom" that goes around.

Its asinine. Its the fucking internet, people. Its not real life. People say all kinds of crazy shit, and 99.9999999999999% of the time, it amounts to absolutely nothing. Get over it.

As I stated before, and I'm not going to say it again after this -- I'm done with this post because its petty and just reeks of safe-space libtard -- just report the guy and move on with your life. You're never ever going to meet this person. He's never going to do anything to you. You'll never be within 500 feet of him. Let riot ban his toxic ass, and let that be the end of it. Suing? Legal action? Police? Are you fucking serious? Get outta here with that shit. The police have REAL problems to take care of in the REAL world. They don't need to be wasting their time and my tax dollars hunting down some KID who said something someone didn't like on the internet.

He's probably some 14 year old obese neckbeard in his mommy's basement munching on cheetos and drinking a 711 big gulp of mountain dew wondering why he doesn't have any friends and has never touched a woman. Who the fuck cares. He doesn't matter. He's a nobody.

Let him keep being insignificant, let Riot take care of the problem, and move on with your life.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go ahead and move on with mine.

P0IS0N IVY1 votes

You seem awfully angry over a topic that you purposely brought up. You do realize before I was only discussing the chances of the police acting about this with other posters? I do not care what happens to the toxic guy in OP's post. So yes, please move on before you get an aneurysm over this topic.

ChuShoe1 votes

I would like to come back to this after the school shootings that were committed after the threats were made online and even reported to the FBI. These reports should be cause for psychological evaluation at the least, at the most serious fines and the person should be registered as a criminal, and never be allowed to buy a weapon

Poppy0071 votes

Well executed, in my own opinion If someone gets way too sensitive over someone who trash talk and being very negative over the internet, then online video games might not be your cup of tea.

If one can’t handle other’s trash talk and negative comments through internet then how you gonna survive in the REAL but yet CRUEL WORLD.

Sometimes you just have to suck it up and move on. Words only gets to you if you allows it to.

If you’re old enough you’d know it’s just words not SPOKEN but TYPED words. Let’s be real here after like a day or two of game you’d prob forgot that has happened. Why waste your time on a nobody?

There are way too many people who trash talk and say very immature comments over the internet, if those comments gets reported to the police and maybe they gets put behind bars, might as well put everyone behind bars. The chances are probably 99.99999% of people have said atleast 1 bad thing in their life.

Again like the previous post Barkley and I mentioned those comments are said over a screen, nobody that you played against or with is gonna know you (except your friends ofcourse). Even IF that person lives few blocks near you he probably won’t know it’s you who said it.

Let that nobody rage

The Trent5 votes

Tbh, this is what I think riot should do: When I mute someone, all their messages are instantly deleted from my chat. That means when I am told to kms, after I mute them, their message won't stay there taunting me. Secondly, they should stay muted in the post-game lobby.

OP, don't add someone after they were toxic to you all game, that's basically just instigating.

Half the time I see someone being toxic in chat, I'm not even mad at the toxic person. I'm grown up enough to just mute the toxic person and report them after the game. The people that annoy me the most are the ones that continue to talk to and instigate the toxic person. People have lives outside of league, and sometimes they take their anger out on the people playing with them because they have no other outlets. It's sad, but you can just mute them and let them scream to a wall.

I don't know what I'm saying anymore TL;DR: Just press the mute button and report them, it's really easy. Riot should seriously add some features to the mute button though, like deleting all messages from that person after the mute.

Don't get mad at Riot because they don't have the best punishment system in the world, literally no game does. Everyone complains about every single punishment system. Overwatch, League, WoW, Battlerite, HoTS, Steam, etc. Y'all are acting like if you complain about cancer enough Riot will cure it. Just be glad they no longer have RiotLyte, I hated that dude's system. It was literally just punishment with no reward and we had psychologists on the boards literally telling him his system didn't make sense. I've seen a noticeable drop in a certain type of toxicity in league. I haven't had someone rage at me in a long time. I don't know if it's because I'm not in low elo (I get that gold isn't high elo but like still it's in the top 15% of players) or because I actually use the mute button, but like I just don't think we should be complaining about league's report system anymore.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-02-28T06:40:15.515+0000)

Secondly, they should stay muted in the post-game lobby.

The reason they don't do this is because, in order for this to work, they would have to be added to your block-list.

So all of a sudden you duo with someone and /fullmute all and accidentally delete and block your friend.

The Trent1 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Follow Christ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2018-02-28T12:54:27.619+0000)

The reason they don't do this is because, in order for this to work, they would have to be added to your block-list.

So all of a sudden you duo with someone and /fullmute all and accidentally delete and block your friend.

Ummm do you have a source for this or are you just pulling it out of thin air? Also if this is true, it really wouldn't be hard to just add new functions to a mute. Lastly, even when I block people, I can still see their chat post-game, so I'm pretty sure you're pulling this from thin air, but you can prove yourself correct and give me evidence if you want. I'll try it out myself and block a random person the next time I play league.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

[{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=000f00000001,timestamp=2018-03-01T14:02:42.448+0000)

Ummm do you have a source for this or are you just pulling it out of thin air?

It used to work like this. A long time ago.

[{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=000f00000001,timestamp=2018-03-01T14:02:42.448+0000)

Lastly, even when I block people, I can still see their chat post-game, so I'm pretty sure you're pulling this from thin air

Unless they changed something, no you can't. I remember a long long time ago, I'd block someone in game, get them on my team a 2nd time in a row, and then not even be able to see what role they called because I couldn't see their chat in champ select.

eldritchbreadD3 votes

actually this happen to me too with the same velkoz i forgot the name of the person but this actually happen and said he was tracking me

Arammus2 votes

euw tho.

Ahri Baka3 votes

Had someone like that yesterday He told me the right solution for my life is to cut my throat and make it bleed till death I even sent a support ticket and the asnwer was " he should harrass many other people to get him banned "

Papa Andrei3 votes

I would love to know what happens after you send a support ticket.

Arammus3 votes

the same thing if i dont send a sup ticket. cause they are useless imo

Papa Andrei1 votes

No they aren’t. Just send a ticket and put some effort in it... unless you want people like this around eh?

Flawless Fetus2 votes

Everytime I've done that for someone being this bad, they just respond with "we can't do anything. Just make sure you report in game." Or something along those lines.

Saboodles4 votes

I literally just sent in a ticket two days ago about someone holding me and other people on my team hostage in champ select, and a Rioter replied saying they'll investigate the person and that they feel bad that I had to go through that. Was a human response and all, so I'm gonna believe that they do genuinely put effort into analyzing reports if the reporter puts effort into their report.

The Trent1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ßlended Fetus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-27T23:01:25.485+0000)

Everytime I've done that for someone being this bad, they just respond with "we can't do anything. Just make sure you report in game." Or something along those lines.

A ticket won't do anything more than a report when it comes to chat. They can see chat logs from champ select to post-game without your screenshots. If anything you should get your ticket rights provoked because you're delaying tickets with actual problems. You don't call 911 and tell them you have a problem and then drive there to tell them the same thing.

Flawless Fetus1 votes

You do if that is what "911" has asked recommended that that is what you should do. Lol.

The Trent1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ßlended Fetus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=000700000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-02-28T16:30:42.229+0000)

You do if that is what "911" has asked recommended that that is what you should do. Lol.

If you're referring to the moderator as 911 he monitors the boards, he doesn't know everything about riot or what you should do. I'm not even sure if board mods even work for riot or if they're just roles given out to respected members giving them certain privileges.

Flawless Fetus1 votes

Nah. I'm refering to the people with red names as 911. Lol.

The Trent1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ßlended Fetus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=00070000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-02T05:43:45.070+0000)

Nah. I'm refering to the people with red names as 911. Lol.

but no one with a red name told you to submit a ticket, so...?

Flawless Fetus1 votes

Xd. They've said to do so if it happened in post/pregame lobby. Lol. But if you say so.....

Barkley2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Papa Andrei,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a0270tyi,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-02-27T21:44:33.462+0000)

I would love to know what happens after you send a support ticket.

He'll get an email back saying "we're handling it but we're not gonna tell you anything about what happens to the player."

And that'll be the end of it, probably.

Timethief492 votes

Nameshaming is not allowed on the boards, take the name out. If you want to report the person additionally to the ingame report option write a ticket to the RIot games support. Tell them that it was in the postgame lobby.

Arammus9 votes

what name? i blurred his name.

Timethief497 votes

Oh i thought you mean his name when you wrote it was on the account... sorry my bad

More from Player Behavior

More by Arammus