This one's for you, "toxic" players.

The Highest Noon··1 votes·1,241 views

DISCLAIMER I have read through the UNIVERSAL RULES and though there's no rule against explicit language, it does mention being inadvertently offensive to others. That shouldn't be a problem, since not anywhere in this post do I EVER verbally assault any identity, whether indirectly or subliminally. And if you TRULY feel that ANY of this is offensive to you, well...you're proving just why this needs to be a topic.

This is a post for the men and women who don't bother to troll, yet saying that their Jungler "spent too much time jungling instead of ganking lanes" is viewed as disrespectful by three too many. It's a post for the "fuckers" who drop too many "fuckin"' f-bombs because their daily vocabulary seems to be taken straight from the "goddamn" "shitlist" of American swearwords. It's a post for the culturally savvy who, like me, make it a point to give "ma %%%%%" his props for that "sexy-ass" baron steal--AND grabs the lantern for the survival! ("Good shit", am I right?) You might casually mention that you were "raped" by Baron Nashor after accidentally attacking it while trying to ward, or that it's "gay af" how Xin Zhao is constantly sitting in your lane's nearest river bush, polishing his spear, and near the end of a notably amazing game, you tell the other team that they "only lost because Nasus spent too much time farming."

This is a post for the people who want to elevate their fellow player, whether through education in what they do wrong, or with a bout of enthusiastic praise that only a sailor's mother could love, or can't help telling the other team what went wrong, yet someone decided to use their words against them, regardless of the positive message behind what they say. I've been there. You've been there. And unless you're one of the few who mute everyone the moment the game starts, at some point you'll be greeted when you return to the main screen with a message saying you'll be on chat restriction for a set amount of games. You'll be unable to receive rewards for your great gameplay, your honors, your season rewards. You'll be put in the same category as those guys and girls who were banned because they decided to repeatedly die in-game because they couldn't get the roles they desired.

What's there to segregate "toxic behavior" and "personality" in a year known for those with a social agenda hoping to get their way by claiming victimization on a game where anybody with a grudge turns to "gang reporting" and "punishment bullying" tactics to get revenge? The player base of this game spans so many differing demographics--so many different types of people from all walks of life with all sorts of personality types... Does the system of standards and guidelines protect only a certain type of person? Are we as a collective expected to act only a certain way? A community will only be a community when we are allowed to be who we are while granting each other the consideration, empathy, understanding, as well as the recognition that there's a difference between:

"my blue %%%" "LOL fuck you I told u to get it anyway"

and

"my blue %%%" "why would you take blue when I said I want it? FUCK YOU"

This might have been spoken on at some point in time that I'm just not aware of, but as it's an issue I personally would like to discuss...

LET'S DISCUSS.

21 Comments

disregardable5 votes

That was illegible. I'm not sure whether you're offended by offensive language, if you wish people used it more, or if you just don't understand why it's against the rules. Honestly, I have no clue which it was from that post.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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That was illegible. I'm not sure whether you're offended by offensive language, if you wish people used it more, or if you just don't understand why it's against the rules. Honestly, I have no clue which it was from that post.

"This might have been spoken on at some point in time that I'm just not aware of, but as it's an issue I personally would like to discuss...

LET'S DISCUSS."

The very last line. Now you know. :)

Nami in Bush3 votes

I say fuck and shit all the fucking time in game, but I don't say it about my teammates or to the enemy if i'm talking about them.

"good shit" "poppy is such a fucking annoying champ" "fuck drag, get tower"

but I never say things like

"you're such a fucking retard kys you filthy n^^^^^"

that is when it becomes offensive. There is a thicc line between the two.

The Highest Noon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZOQia3q3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-06T13:31:53.354+0000)

I say fuck and shit all the fucking time in game, but I don't say it about my teammates or to the enemy if i'm talking about them.

"good shit" "poppy is such a fucking annoying champ" "fuck drag, get tower"

but I never say things like

"you're such a fucking retard kys you filthy n^^^^^"

that is when it becomes offensive. There is a thicc line between the two.

Exactly. Does the reporting system draw a line, though? How does receiving a chat restriction even work? Automated or Tribunal?

EvilDustMan1 votes

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Exactly. Does the reporting system draw a line, though? How does receiving a chat restriction even work? Automated or Tribunal?

The automated system is able to distinguish between those examples.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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The automated system is able to distinguish between those examples.

I don't think so. The only way to test this would be to make the chat report system automatic, not needing player reports, but that won't happen.

o Maui o1 votes

The automated system reviews the chatlogs of games that were flagged by reports. So the reports trigger the review, but the system interprets whether a punishment is necessary.

Nami in Bush2 votes

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Exactly. Does the reporting system draw a line, though? How does receiving a chat restriction even work? Automated or Tribunal?

I am still not completely sure. All bans are still viewed by Riot. The automated system, from what I gather, takes the amount of reports you get and the frequency of reports you get, and crossreference it with your chat logs. I've been chat restricted once for complete bullshit because of premades constantly reporting me. I can paste the logs of the one that I kept because I thought it was so golden how I was keeping the team's morale up and coaxing somebody threatening to AFK and I was punished for that game.

http://pastebin.com/VPp308UK

scazzman2 votes

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I am still not completely sure. All bans are still viewed by Riot. The automated system, from what I gather, takes the amount of reports you get and the frequency of reports you get, and crossreference it with your chat logs. I've been chat restricted once for complete bullshit because of premades constantly reporting me. I can paste the logs of the one that I kept because I thought it was so golden how I was keeping the team's morale up and coaxing somebody threatening to AFK and I was punished for that game.

http://pastebin.com/VPp308UK

this is untrue. only permabans are reviewed by an actual human. and im not even sure they are anymore

Nami in Bush1 votes

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this is untrue. only permabans are reviewed by an actual human. and im not even sure they are anymore

Bans are reviewed by humans. If you want to be 100% sure that a human has looked over the ban, contact Support and ask them to look over it.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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I am still not completely sure. All bans are still viewed by Riot. The automated system, from what I gather, takes the amount of reports you get and the frequency of reports you get, and crossreference it with your chat logs. I've been chat restricted once for complete bullshit because of premades constantly reporting me. I can paste the logs of the one that I kept because I thought it was so golden how I was keeping the team's morale up and coaxing somebody threatening to AFK and I was punished for that game.

http://pastebin.com/VPp308UK

It sucks that something that NEEDS a human eye to judge is left to programs, but I think that to be chat restricted it goes to Tribunal (or whatever's left of it). But even then, you're looking at something like one demographic vs another. If someone simply doesn't like your cultural communication, they can send you to get punished.

Nami in Bush1 votes

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It sucks that something that NEEDS a human eye to judge is left to programs, but I think that to be chat restricted it goes to Tribunal (or whatever's left of it). But even then, you're looking at something like one demographic vs another. If someone simply doesn't like your cultural communication, they can send you to get punished.

Chat restrictions are automated atm. I find it complete bullshit that you can be punished for different cultural communication, however you can play their game. Don't use hot/flagged words and don't piss people off. Instead of arguing with people on your team, do the complete opposite. Give the positives to the situation and tell them what can better the cause (to win). Anybody who refuses to conform, ignore, even if they AFK/intent feed. Keep the morale up for the rest of the team or take leadership.

The Highest Noon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZOQia3q3,comment-id=00010000000100010000,timestamp=2016-06-07T12:46:48.284+0000)

Chat restrictions are automated atm. I find it complete bullshit that you can be punished for different cultural communication, however you can play their game. Don't use hot/flagged words and don't piss people off. Instead of arguing with people on your team, do the complete opposite. Give the positives to the situation and tell them what can better the cause (to win). Anybody who refuses to conform, ignore, even if they AFK/intent feed. Keep the morale up for the rest of the team or take leadership.

Is there a list of flagged words somewhere? From what I remember of the example chat they showed me from my last chat restriction, I didn't insult anyone at all. Only two reasons I can think of that a report went through was because I referred to someone making bad plays repeatedly and not listening to suggestions, and that I said "n***a" once. Which is actually pretty tame for my usual games.

Astôlfo1 votes

You talk too much.

Nazzadan1 votes

What are you even trying to say, my dude.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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What are you even trying to say, my dude.

If you even bothered to skim over this post, you'd know. But to appease your laziness, or lack of understanding of what I was getting at, what I'm "trying to say" is that oftentimes the report system gets it wrong and needs another reformation.

Nazzadan1 votes

Okay my main man, but what does that mean.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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Okay my main man, but what does that mean.

People get punished when they do nothing wrong.

Nazzadan1 votes

I don't think I agree with that assessment

The Highest Noon1 votes

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I don't think I agree with that assessment

It seems to be a matter of opinion. Well, regarding whether punishment is necessary or not anyway. I still have no idea where to find flagged terms, so I'll just send in a help ticket.

The Highest Noon1 votes

And what makes the situation worse is that unjust punishments actually affect your accolades and achievements within the game, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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