not all hate speech is created equally

scazzman··5 votes·446 views

Just a reminder that "autistic, down syndrome, retard" will all still only run you up the punishment ladder normally. no instant 14 day or perma.

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Jorencice2 votes

Smh.

I cant wait till people are demanding the words fat or lazy be added to the permaban list as well after all we must protect the feefees.

What a sad state this generation is causing.

Luckily time has shown if a generation goes bonkers about a subject the next generation will be the complete opposite.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

I think we should do away with the "permaban list" and focus only on how people are using the word on that list. If they're used offensively, ban. If they're not used offensively then no ban. The same way we'd treat any other words.

MadMad Sickness1 votes

Even if this may or may not be true, you'll still go up the ladder anyway lol. It's not even worth it.

Why even try it?

scazzman2 votes

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Even if this may or may not be true, you'll still go up the ladder anyway lol.

Why even try it?

i believe you misunderstood the intention of the post. the intent was to raise awareness of disability related hate speech. and try to get it lumped into the same category as kys, and racial slurs

khangeorge1 votes

how do people know about kys getting you 14 days banned? i wish i knew...

RallerenP1 votes

Some people, including me, spends a LOOOONG time each day on boards. Always if someone has gotten an instant 14 day ban, they've either used hatespeech or told others kys.

Also from various Rioter comments and such.

Around999People1 votes

I can't wait for disability related slurs to be treated as racial slurs. Neither can be changed and neither was chosen but one is more ok than another?

Chermorg1 votes

I've seen some cases where a punishment looks like it was escalated for disability related hate speech - I.e 14 day ban out of the blue and only one log provided.

But I agree that those words really need to stop being said in League.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

I disagree that these words need to stop being said in league. I think riot shouldn't allow offensive use of the words but should still allow the words themselves.

Jo0o1 votes

Tough call to make. Obviously there are clearly reasons to refer to autism, downs syndrome, and retardation in non-hateful ways, unlike slurs. Equally as obviously, those reasons shouldn't apply to a game of League.

To play devil's advocate: One might suggest that the use of "autistic" as an insult isn't invoking the persecution or marginalization of a minority group the same way calling somebody the n-word is. The relative weights of all these words is very hard to calculate, though. How persecuted are people who live with autism, or other mental disorders? Mental health is super tricky to deal with.

scazzman1 votes

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Tough call to make. Obviously there are clearly reasons to refer to autism, downs syndrome, and retardation in non-hateful ways, unlike slurs. Equally as obviously, those reasons shouldn't apply to a game of League.

To play devil's advocate: One might suggest that the use of "autistic" as an insult isn't invoking the persecution or marginalization of a minority group the same way calling somebody the n-word is. The relative weights of all these words is very hard to calculate, though. How persecuted are people who live with autism, or other mental disorders? Mental health is super tricky to deal with.

Disabled people were still subject to forced sterilization, and involuntary human experimentation until the late 80s. and still face discrimination today.

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