Riot's great banning system

General Esdeath ·May 12, 2016·2 votes·742 views

I got matched in a game with someone trolling and decided to look into their match history. Shockingly, he's been doing this for a few days. May 10th (as seen in this picture) he did this 3-4 times. 2 days later and he still isn't banned? 2 days. Really Riot? Are we gonna have another one of Dunkey's Malphites (Who took months to be banned despite video evidence)? At least give us an option to report trolls in the lobby and force dodge while a PERSON at Riot, not a machine, looks and judges who was right and punishes the wrong?

22 Comments

FovereMay 12, 20164 votes

Riot doesn't really care if people troll as long as they arent talking while they do it.

HarrisonOwnsMay 12, 20162 votes

Nothing will happen to him.

I have a list of people kept who used racism, bigotry, hate-speech, fed nonstop, sold all their items and ran down the middle incessantly, stole buffs, etc. etc.

Nothing has happened to any of them.

EvilDustManMay 12, 20161 votes

What ELO?

And Riot has feeder buster, and it is pretty harsh, so as long as you report them, the system also bans feeders as well as toxicity.

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

Silver

The problem is he just sat mid behind me soaking up exp (He picked support so our adc fell behind) and the problem is that the system won't pick this up like a person would

EvilDustManMay 12, 20161 votes

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Silver

The problem is he just sat mid behind me soaking up exp (He picked support so our adc fell behind) and the problem is that the system won't pick this up like a person would

Uh, yes, that is something that they can pick up. Report him and he'll be shut down.

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

I reported so I hope it does something.

DrCyanideMay 12, 20162 votes

Honestly, I've seen worse from people that were trying in Silver. I had a 0/13/0 top laner who, despite making terrible decisions, was honestly trying...

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

The thing was he tried, where as this guy was just trolling.

AeroWaffleMay 12, 20161 votes

Look, many of us understand your frustration. We've had trolls in our games as well.

But can you offer a solution that doesn't involve accidentally banning players that just play poorly?

People can be really really bad at the game and not do it intentionally. Banning these players by accident is not an option. So as long as the troll even attempts to avoid detection by showing some half-ass cs'ing, attacking, etc, they can slip through the system. Making the system more harsh will not change this.

All it would accomplish is that the people who are intentionally feeding while trying to avoid the system would just try a little harder to avoid the system. You also can't manual review each and every case because the manpower doesn't exist to do so.

So I ask, what would the solution be?

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

Have humans review reports with video evidence or have something in champ select that lets us (all 4 other players if there's no premade with this person) report him, force a dodge, and has a person review it. And have the person in question blocked from playing until either a time limit passes or someone reviews it.

Kei143May 12, 20161 votes

you realise there are more than 1 million league games played everyday?

lets just say its 0.006% of people trolling, thats 6,000 games that still require manual review. Its not that financially feasible.

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

Then put Tribunal back and let players decide again, and I wouldn't mind if it took time as long as I knew it was being done.

Kei143May 12, 20161 votes

if you want the old system, there was at least a 2 week backlog.

you ain't getting anyone punished in this 2 day timeframe.

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

As I said before, I wouldn't mind as long as it gets done. If an automated system hasn't done it in 2 days, it's not going to do it at all.

AeroWaffleMay 12, 20161 votes

The old Tribunal actually had a lower accuracy than the current system.

General Esdeath May 13, 20161 votes

I find that hard to believe, the only toxicity I saw when Tribunal was around was mostly people who argued for roles in champ select, and with the new system that doesn't happen. Unless you're Tyler1

AeroWaffleMay 12, 20161 votes

have something in champ select that lets us (all 4 other players if there's no premade with this person) report him, force a dodge, and has a person review it. And have the person in question blocked from playing until either a time limit passes or someone reviews it.

Wait. You want to implement something in champ select that's highly abusable AND that blocks the reported party from playing?

No.

All it would take is a 4-man premade, or simply 4 people that mutually agree that they don't like someones honest choice in champion.

Just... No

General Esdeath May 12, 20161 votes

So you think 4 strangers will all work together to abuse one person? If we remove 4 man premades we can kill 2 birds with one stone. And as I said before, if they're found to abuse it, THEY will be punished instead.

dagurrMay 12, 20161 votes

its not that bad tbh

Kei143May 12, 20161 votes

send in a support ticket if you think his account needs a 2nd look.

Ada WongMay 13, 20161 votes

So how not to get banned for Intentional Trolling by the automated system.

. Play some games great scores / stats . Always stay within same level of your team . Have some CS farm lower CS if you are the support. . Just hit enemys to make it look like you helped your team . Deal Damage to enemy tower / minions but Intentionally troll some team fights

. Play TahmKench Eat your ADC, or Tank / CC in a fight so the enemy team wins the fights, and wait for your team to rage at you (Only do this at a very critical moment that will cost your team dearly (When others flame you) Reprot and get them banned act innocent, say sorry make them rage more and cost games...