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MuteAllFromStart··1 votes·3,145 views

Hello. I get suspended and dont understand why. Im being presented with a log, read through it and still dont understand why. I make a support ticket asking them why. They tell me Im toxic. I ask them what have I said that they deem toxic? The say they have already explained themselves, close the ticket and then threatens me to lock my account if I continue to ask for the same thing.

Where is the understandign and logic behind this behavior from Riot Games?

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Kei1435 votes

They've stated their case already, you didn't like their answer, but there's no other answer for you.

Basic logic that you aren't understanding.

Of course, if you want the community to review your logs, then post it.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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They've stated their case already, you didn't like their answer, but there's no other answer for you.

Basic logic that you aren't understanding.

Okey, so what was their case? <- Ofc I didnt like their answer because they didnt answer the question I posted, they answered something totally different. Why is there no other answer for me?

What basic logic?

Lets see if you are better at answering then riot games.

Sinful Succubus2 votes

Post the logs

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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Post the logs

I can absolutly do that but it wont help because you dont work as a riot-support and therefor cant help me, you can only guess the problem. I can direct you to another suspension I had, in fact a ban and I can show you the log, without reading the answer you will never be able to understand the problem in that log... because nooen else did. I had to go back about 7 times to the support to get the answer, and the answer was just out of this world.

Basically I had been reported so many times that even if i said "Hello" <- riot deemed this toxic and would ban me for it.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

If you don't want help and are refusing to post your logs, then why are you here?

A Riot support agent is not going to override a punishment issued by the automated system. It's valid. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you're right.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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If you don't want help and are refusing to post your logs, then why are you here?

A Riot support agent is not going to override a punishment issued by the automated system. It's valid. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you're right.

But that is not the issue. Its not about the logs... once again as I told 3 other people before you: I can post the logs, but it wont help you it wont help me... So what will you get out of it? What is the purpose of you seeing my logs? <-

Im here trying to understand RIot <- I believe I was very clear about this but apologize if I wasnt.

I never asked them to override a punishment. I asked them to explain the punishment and what they deemed "toxic" in my log. <- WHen reading through their answer I cant find an answer to that question and I still have no idea what I said that they deemed toxic and punished me for <-

How can I agree with something I dont udnertand becuase they refuse/didnt explain it to me?

Umbral Regent4 votes

...but it wont help because you dont work as a riot-support and therefor cant help me...

We can help you understand the reason you were punished. If you want the punishment lifted, then, yeah, we can't help you, but sometimes the help you need isn't the help you want.

Besides, the Community Boards isn't really a place to go for Riot Support stuff. Particularly in Player Behavior, Riot responses are pretty few and far between here. It's a good place to go for community input, but not really for Riot input.

I can direct you to another suspension I had, in fact a ban and I can show you the log, without reading the answer you will never be able to understand the problem in that log... because nooen else did. I had to go back about 7 times to the support to get the answer, and the answer was just out of this world.

Basically I had been reported so many times that even if i said "Hello" <- riot deemed this toxic and would ban me for it.

You misunderstand Riot's explanation, then. The IFS has something of a built-in leniency system, wherein one-off cases of misbehavior typically won't be punished (unless the behavior in question is extreme), but that leniency can fall off more and more as you get punished more and more. And it can, as it were, build up to the point where small instances of misbehavior can reward you with immediate punishment, just on account of your previous history of misbehavior.

It has nothing to do with being reported a lot, and it has nothing to do with the system arbitrarily deciding that an otherwise acceptable word is now punishable due to being reported a lot; you had a longstanding history of misbehavior and it resulted in a "straw that broke the camel's back" case.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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We can help you understand the reason you were punished. If you want the punishment lifted, then, yeah, we can't help you, but sometimes the help you need isn't the help you want.

Besides, the Community Boards isn't really a place to go for Riot Support stuff. Particularly in Player Behavior, Riot responses are pretty few and far between here. It's a good place to go for community input, but not really for Riot input.

You misunderstand Riot's explanation, then. The IFS has something of a built-in leniency system, wherein one-off cases of misbehavior typically won't be punished (unless the behavior in question is extreme), but that leniency can fall off more and more as you get punished more and more. And it can, as it were, build up to the point where small instances of misbehavior can reward you with immediate punishment, just on account of your previous history of misbehavior.

It has nothing to do with being reported a lot, and it has nothing to do with the system arbitrarily deciding that an otherwise acceptable word is now punishable due to being reported a lot; you had a longstanding history of misbehavior and it resulted in a "straw that broke the camel's back" case.

No you cant. I did ask this forum before in my perm-ban thread and noone were able to explain the problem... I had to go back to support ticket about 7 times asking them, and finally they told me that I had been "targeting" another playing by saying "morgana" <- Noone in the entire comment section had come up with this answer ... So no experience tells me that you wont be able to explain this and I believe that if support ticket crew claims Im toxic <- THey should be able to explain how I am toxic... not just labeling me out of thin air.

No I dont want the punishment lifted and never asked for it here...its rather strange that people assume so much. Do me this one favor, look upthis account.. when was the last time I played on it?

The help I need I have been very open about: I want to understand what I said that riot deems toxic, and regarding this thread... I want to understand why riot lacks understanding when I ask them "Can you explain this?" <- But so far noone provides answers, just more assumptions.

No I didnt understand their explanation... I have actually given them a challenge... to have one of their friends read their response to me and then explain to tme why I was punished <- THey didnt take this challenge cause they never provided an explanation. If you post me an explanation that only you undertand <- This is not helpful to me... and Im the one with the problem. Its like I come to you because Im hungry and you start telling me that I should think ahead, I should have grown plats etc... but all I want is food <- Cna you give me food? No becuase you already explained to me and if I continue to ask for food you will put me in jail! <- This is the logic I get from riot games.

Well that part about punishments is somewhat true, but not all true... Its not only about punishments its also about number of reports... I can say nothing in games and do nothing wrong and still get warnings/punishments. Its about reports, becuase you dont check the validity of reports... if Im a famous person and people just want to report me to get a reaction out of me I cna get warned or punished... Dyrus did. "It has nothing to do with being reported a lot," <- sorry but this is a lie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUK7-IJ5Dg8

"you had a longstanding history of misbehavior and it resulted in a "straw that broke the camel's back" case." <- Then riot should have no problems explaining these misbehaviors ... Me as an adult are able to explain things to others like I did with you previously. Im able to give sources and background information but RIOT isnt <-

Umbral Regent3 votes

I'm gonna be blunt;

The help I need I have been very open about: I want to understand what I said that riot deems toxic...

If you want help understanding what behavior Riot deems toxic, then you should submit your chat logs here for peer review. Going off on all these long-winded tangents about how Riot has been unhelpful and that the community can't help will not help you get anywhere.

Nobody here has provided answers because in order to do so, they need you to show them your chat logs so they can point out what behavior is toxic and what isn't.

And to that end, unless you provide your chat logs for peer review, I'm not going to respond further. You came here with an explicit goal, and so far you've just been sidestepping achieving it. If you want to know what Riot considers toxic and why you got punished, then you should submit your chat logs for peer review, elsewise, we can't explain it to you.

Everyone is willing to help, and multiple people have asked for your chat logs so that they can help, so at the end of the day, you not getting the help you wanted has thus far been on you. So, with that, I'll be bowing out until you provide your chat logs. Have a good day.

MuteAllFromStart2 votes

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I'm gonna be blunt;

If you want help understanding what behavior Riot deems toxic, then you should submit your chat logs here for peer review. Going off on all these long-winded tangents about how Riot has been unhelpful and that the community can't help will not help you get anywhere.

Nobody here has provided answers because in order to do so, they need you to show them your chat logs so they can point out what behavior is toxic and what isn't.

And to that end, unless you provide your chat logs for peer review, I'm not going to respond further. You came here with an explicit goal, and so far you've just been sidestepping achieving it. If you want to know what Riot considers toxic and why you got punished, then you should submit your chat logs for peer review, elsewise, we can't explain it to you.

Everyone is willing to help, and multiple people have asked for your chat logs so that they can help, so at the end of the day, you not getting the help you wanted has thus far been on you. So, with that, I'll be bowing out until you provide your chat logs. Have a good day.

Hello. No it doesnt work like that. I have posted my logs here before and asked what is the problem <- SO far 0 people have been correct when I actually get the answer from the support ticket crew <- And they hold the truth, yes?

So me asking a bunch of players that have not even read summoners code "Here is my log, why was I suspended?" <- Wont help at all. A lot of people will just say "You were toxic" <- this is not explaining anything... This is why I posted: Where is the understandign and logic behind this behavior from Riot Games? <- This is the last sentence and only quesiton in the OP. ANd a question that never been answered in this thread so far.

SO if noone can answer this question, why would they be able to know what another person deems toxic in a log? <- They cant do that, they can only guess... and I can guess too but it doesnt help me nor anyone if I sit here and guess why I was punished. Lets say I guess that I casted a spell and that is why I was punished <- THen I take this to the rift "YOu are not allowed to shoot a cait Q in the wrong direction, I was banned for it" <- This will cause more problems then it solves.

"Going off on all these long-winded tangents about how Riot has been unhelpful and that the community can't help will not help you get anywhere." <- I agree becuase noone of you have been able or even trying to answer the questions posted to you by me. If you at least try to answer the questions then it might be helpful, we dont know cause so far noone have even tried.

"Nobody here has provided answers because in order to do so, they need you to show them your chat logs so they can point out what behavior is toxic and what isn't." No that is not true. Question is: Where is the understandign and logic behind this behavior from Riot Games? <- Lets say I have inside information about riot where they have stated to reveal as little information as they can to summoners... then that is an explnation and an answer to my quesiton. As of now, I still have no idea why RIOT refuse to explain and when I tell them that i have not understood and ask for them to explain so that I understand , they threaten to lock my account <-

"And to that end, unless you provide your chat logs for peer review, I'm not going to respond further. " <- Okey, its sad that you have missunderstood this thread then... Sure I can post a log and you tell me and explain the problem: lets see if you are a person of your own word: Game 1 Lovepet: I try if I see an opening Lovepet: neither could I Lovepet: I have no idea how they knew I was there Lovepet: I need 6 Lovepet: morgana? Lovepet: I want you to zone them off and use your Q to stun them Lovepet: so that I can deal dmg Lovepet: I did ping you, you knew what was going to happen. Lovepet: that is not what I said morgana Lovepet: you know what zoning is? Lovepet: so why not ping me back then? Lovepet: if you aint going to help Lovepet: you basically kill me Lovepet: I was defending a ward, but ok Lovepet: agaisnt rakan? Lovepet: so how can you def tower? Lovepet: yes Lovepet: how? Lovepet: not really, any other champs have different skills Lovepet: such as viktor have his E for clearance Lovepet: because they attacked me Lovepet: because you didnt zone them off Lovepet: its very elementary Lovepet: ofc Lovepet: I cant carry you, sry Lovepet: ekko, you cant tell kids what to do Lovepet: just look at what morgana told me when I did try Lovepet: see? Lovepet: morgana, Im not blaming... please read waht I type Lovepet: its over Lovepet: yeap Lovepet: not really Lovepet: not really Lovepet: riven its not blame Lovepet: its quesitons Lovepet: please learn the difference Lovepet: blame looks like this :Its your fault we lost <-- that is blame Lovepet: this is a question: How old are you? <-- notice the questionmark Lovepet: you cant tell her what to do Lovepet: ekko, twitch is a very viable jungler and the game recommend me jugle items Lovepet: also if you were to google "twitch jungle" you get plenty of results and guides Lovepet: ekko lol Lovepet: tell enemy team to stop killing me? Lovepet: hey fizz, "stop die" .. lol Lovepet: ekko lol! please try to understand and if you cant let me know and I explain it to you Lovepet: ofc I am Lovepet: yeah tell that to ekko Lovepet: he flames me cause I die. but what can I do? Lovepet: what does that mean? Lovepet: it also makes no sense? Lovepet: ekko no, skypename? Lovepet: I explain it to you Lovepet: or you explain it to me Lovepet: you told me not to die Lovepet: Im doing that Lovepet: now he flames me for not dying, there is no winning here Lovepet: sry I dont listen to you Lovepet: you flamer Lovepet: ofc Lovepet: Im odler then you Lovepet: wtf? Lovepet: I cant Lovepet: I have a flamer in my team Lovepet: and I have people who doesnt understand zoning Lovepet: What have I said that you think is "flame" ? Lovepet: Im saying that you are flaming, and that is not flaming Lovepet: its allowed to feed, called gameplay Lovepet: you see that? IM not allowed to die for ekko, then he threatens to report me for flame and feeding, wtf? Lovepet: sry no' Lovepet: well he dint flame at start Lovepet: he started to flame morgana, and then me

Umbral Regent5 votes

Lovepet: I did ping you, you knew what was going to happen. Lovepet: that is not what I said morgana Lovepet: you know what zoning is? Lovepet: so why not ping me back then? Lovepet: if you aint going to help Lovepet: you basically kill me Lovepet: I was defending a ward, but ok

Detrimental arguing, and beginning to harass Morgana. Claiming that what they're doing isn't helping and that they're essentially killing you.

Lovepet: so how can you def tower? Lovepet: yes Lovepet: how? Lovepet: not really, any other champs have different skills Lovepet: such as viktor have his E for clearance Lovepet: because they attacked me Lovepet: because you didnt zone them off Lovepet: its very elementary

The arguing continues. If you can't point out an issue and suggest a resolution concisely, it may not be worth your breath to try and argue it - especially if you're going to be condescending.

Lovepet: I cant carry you, sry Lovepet: ekko, you cant tell kids what to do Lovepet: just look at what morgana told me when I did try Lovepet: see? Lovepet: morgana, Im not blaming... please read waht I type

Especially if you're going to be condescending and insulting. Calling people "kids" and continuing to argue and harass Morgana (yes; what you're doing here is harassment. You're pointing out that Morgana didn't do as you asked and chastising them.) is not welcome behavior.

Lovepet: its over Lovepet: yeap Lovepet: not really Lovepet: not really Lovepet: riven its not blame Lovepet: its quesitons Lovepet: please learn the difference

Defeatism (claiming that the match is over) and even more arguing.

Lovepet: blame looks like this :Its your fault we lost <-- that is blame Lovepet: this is a question: How old are you? <-- notice the questionmark

Even questions can be negative behavior. Asking people's age can easily be a method of harassment, as your question basically assumes "You are probably young (and I want to confirm it) so that I can call you out on your age-related lack of experience."

And, of course, continuing the argument.

Lovepet: you cant tell her what to do

More harassing Morgana, doubtless.

Lovepet: tell enemy team to stop killing me? Lovepet: hey fizz, "stop die" .. lol Lovepet: ekko lol! please try to understand and if you cant let me know and I explain it to you Lovepet: ofc I am Lovepet: yeah tell that to ekko Lovepet: he flames me cause I die. but what can I do? Lovepet: what does that mean? Lovepet: it also makes no sense? Lovepet: ekko no, skypename? Lovepet: I explain it to you Lovepet: or you explain it to me Lovepet: you told me not to die Lovepet: Im doing that Lovepet: now he flames me for not dying, there is no winning here Lovepet: sry I dont listen to you Lovepet: you flamer

And even more arguing, this time with a flamer. If someone flames you, you should mute them, report them, and move on. Do not engage them. Do not address them, mention them, or give them the time of day.

The more you bicker and argue with a flamer, the more you fuel their flaming.

Lovepet: Im odler then you

Negativity in the form of boasting age. Nobody cares if you're older than them; age doesn't mean hardly anything in terms of maturity or experience.

Lovepet: I have a flamer in my team Lovepet: and I have people who doesnt understand zoning Lovepet: What have I said that you think is "flame" ? Lovepet: Im saying that you are flaming, and that is not flaming Lovepet: its allowed to feed, called gameplay Lovepet: you see that? IM not allowed to die for ekko, then he threatens to report me for flame and feeding, wtf? Lovepet: sry no' Lovepet: well he dint flame at start Lovepet: he started to flame morgana, and then me

And your chat logs finish with harassment, of both Ekko (for flaming) and Morgana (for not doing what you wanted them to do).

And judging by the fact that you reference the flamer being "in (your) team", I can only guess that this last part was in /all chat, which makes the situation that much worse.

You were punished for negativity (defeatism, detrimental arguing, etc.) and harassment (chewing out/chastising Morgana and singling out Ekko); my advice, next time someone starts flaming, mute them and do not say a word to, of, or about them, and if someone isn't playing to your standards, you're not going to get anywhere by arguing and insulting them.

And if this behavior is a regular occurrence, then yes, it is toxic.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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Lovepet: that is not what I said morgana Lovepet: you know what zoning is? Lovepet: so why not ping me back then? Lovepet: if you aint going to help Lovepet: you basically kill me Lovepet: I was defending a ward, but ok

Detrimental arguing, and beginning to harass Morgana. Claiming that what they're doing isn't helping and that they're essentially killing you.

How is it Detrimental and towards who? When googling "Detrimental arguing" I get 271 results . All of them with a , <- Inbetween Detrimental and arguing. <- This means you made up that word.

I did not harass morgana, how did I harass morgana? Yes I made that claim , and that is what happen. Do you know what happen cause I do: Allow me to explain. I was Twitch jungle, we are on the bottom side. Im clearing their word from tri-brush while ADC is in base and SUpport morgana is "defending tower" vs creeps only. Rather then coming to me, helping me with at least a black shield, she didnt come when they attacked me and she did not even try to zone them off when they walk past her <- She didnt even try to Q them. Hence how she got me killed. I was playing that situation 1v3 with a teammate close by who did nothing to assist me.

How is this harassment ? <- If anything the morgana harassmed me.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VFqfwj3b,comment-id=000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-08T17:24:27.234+0000)

I tell a player he cant tell me what to do (just like your support told me I cant tell players what to do) About this, and this alone you said: More harassing Morgana, doubtless. <-

Do you understand how this is confusing? That your support crew tells me one thing... 2 years later you tell me Im harassing people for doing what others are doing and what your own support-crew are telling me? <-

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VFqfwj3b,comment-id=000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-08T17:24:27.234+0000)

Negativity in the form of boasting age. Nobody cares if you're older than them; age doesn't mean hardly anything in terms of maturity or experience.

But that never happen. A person called me a kid and I told him that I was older then him <- That is not boasting about age. How can you think that? If noone cares that Im older, then why are they calling me a kid? <- stop calling me a kid and I dont have to explain to you that Im actually older then you and its rather moronic of you to call me a kid. <- And I have to clairfy here. I did not call you a moron. Moron is something you are , moronic is something you do. Jackass crew are not moronic but their behavior on films are moronic <- I hope you understand this cause others rioter doesnt and I have been banend for calling something "Moronic" when they thought I called someone a moron <- You missunderstand about as much as the average rioter TBH

ModPeriscope2 votes

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I can absolutly do that but it wont help because you dont work as a riot-support and therefor cant help me, you can only guess the problem.

Player feedback is how the Instant Feedback System was built, as well as how the system adjusts. Another player also had to have reported you in your game. Therefore, other players are adequately equipped to help point out what's problematic (or not) in your logs.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

{quoted}

Player feedback is how the Instant Feedback System was built, as well as how the system adjusts. Another player also had to have reported you in your game. Therefore, other players are adequately equipped to help point out what's problematic (or not) in your logs.

Okey this is really strange. RIOTers told me that I dont need to reportcall because if my report is valid its enough to punish someone. Now you tell me taht at least 2 reports are needed?

Also: Do you also think that if I ask for your age, its because i want to harass and flame you? <- Is it just here or is this in real life as well, like a nightclub?

Kei1433 votes

Then post your questions and the logs.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

{quoted}

Then post your questions and the logs.

again: I can absolutly do this but it serves no purpose. I can direct you to the log that perm-banned me and you wont be able to find toxicity neither. So what is the purpose of you wanting to see the log? <-

MaskedMadness2 votes

{quoted}

They've stated their case already, you didn't like their answer, but there's no other answer for you.

Basic logic that you aren't understanding.

from the looks of it the support didnt list the reported phrases and just said they were toxic. its not a valid answer to his question

Kei1433 votes

I tend not to trust toxic people making claims. It's typically highly exaggerated in attempts to make them look better.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

{quoted}

I tend not to trust toxic people making claims. It's typically highly exaggerated in attempts to make them look better.

Okey , now you already labeled me as a toxic person even thought I said nothing toxic and none of my behavior is toxic. <- Last time someone accused me of this they had to run away due to the overwhelming proof that it wasnt the case.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

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MuteAllFromStart1 votes

{quoted}

Dude, all you're looking for is to argue with people here. Put up or shut up, as they say. If you won't post your logs, why are you here?

No that is not true and I dont like it that you trying to speak for me. Im not here trying to speak for you and tell others what you are doing, what you are thinking etc. What you are doing is called a "Witch hunt" where the goal is to kill the witch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt I ask of you to stop this behavior and these actions towards me as I have done nothing of the sort towards you.

What do you want me to put up? Because I dont cooperate well with people trying to speak for me, like you just did.

Why Im here is in the OP and also I have explained that lots of times already. Im here trying to understand why RIOT wont explain what they deem toxic <-

I urge you to ask open questions rather then trying to speak for others, this time notihng probably happens.. if this was back in the day I might have been killed from your words <-

rujitra3 votes

PROVE IT

Post your support tickets screenshots.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

{quoted}

PROVE IT

Post your support tickets screenshots.

I dont even understand what you want from me here? you want a picture with a support ID number or what are you actually asking of me? Also, try to answer the questions I asked before demanding things from me , thank you.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

{quoted}

from the looks of it the support didnt list the reported phrases and just said they were toxic. its not a valid answer to his question

You and me we are on the same page and I dont understand how anyone can claim I have recieved an explanation. <-

rujitra2 votes

Highly unlikely OP is telling the full truth here. If they are, they should have no problem posting screenshots of the support tickets,

Umbral Regent4 votes

If they had to warn you that they'd lock your account if you continued to "ask for the same thing" after asking for clarification about what parts of your behavior was toxic, I'd have to guess that you weren't exactly maintaining composure in pressing for further answers. Riot Support is usually pretty good about explaining which behaviors pushed you to the punishment when asked, so I can only imagine that was a failing on your part.

As for your chat logs, if you'd like a peer review to have the community help you better understand where you crossed the line, you can present your chat logs here and we'd be glad to show you what behavior may not have been welcome in League.

hRnrBbWoTr1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VFqfwj3b,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-08T16:22:03.062+0000)

If they had to warn you that they'd lock your account if you continued to "ask for the same thing" after asking for clarification about what parts of your behavior was toxic, I'd have to guess that you weren't exactly maintaining composure in pressing for further answers. Riot Support is usually pretty good about explaining which behaviors pushed you to the punishment when asked, so I can only imagine that was a failing on your part.

As for your chat logs, if you'd like a peer review to have the community help you better understand where you crossed the line, you can present your chat logs here and we'd be glad to show you what behavior may not have been welcome in League.

no behavior is welcomed in league, "I said poopie head" and got a 2 week ban with no previous offences. The game is literally say nothing oh you said a word, permabanned thanks for your money %%%%%%%%%% should've been a streamer.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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no behavior is welcomed in league, "I said poopie head" and got a 2 week ban with no previous offences. The game is literally say nothing oh you said a word, permabanned thanks for your money %%%%%%%%%% should've been a streamer.

Yeah I see the issue... streamers get away with everything... didnt T1 yesterday say he was going to afk after only 4 min of ingame time? If I did this I would get perm-banned.

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VFqfwj3b,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-08T16:22:03.062+0000)

If they had to warn you that they'd lock your account if you continued to "ask for the same thing" after asking for clarification about what parts of your behavior was toxic, I'd have to guess that you weren't exactly maintaining composure in pressing for further answers. Riot Support is usually pretty good about explaining which behaviors pushed you to the punishment when asked, so I can only imagine that was a failing on your part.

As for your chat logs, if you'd like a peer review to have the community help you better understand where you crossed the line, you can present your chat logs here and we'd be glad to show you what behavior may not have been welcome in League.

No that is not at all what happen and Im glad you said that you guess, in this case the guess was all wrong. Its rather strange though to think that Im not maintining composure when I have shown no signs of "blowing up" or being hateful,toxic or negative.

You make the claim that they are good at explaining which behavior will result in punishment, I disagree royaly about this as I have created about 10 tickets from different suspensions and different logs where I asked them what the problem is, 3 times they have been able to explain the problem. Problem 1: You are not allowed to target another player. I did this by saying "morgana" <- This is me targeting another player and riot-support explained how its not okey for me to say "Morgana" <- at least I got an explanation even though the explanation was really weird.

Problem 2: you are not allowed to reportcall <- Did this once, was reported and punished for it. After this I have reported anyone who reportcalls and informed them that they are not allwoed to reportcall <- So far riot have punished 0 of those I have reported for reportcall, so gues this rule only applies to me.

Problem 3: You are not allowed to say "GG easy" Once again, did this once and was suspended for it... THese days I report anyone who does this and so far I believe out of about 200 reports you have suspended 1... if it was for that reason I have no idea.

No the issue is not that, the issue is that it seams that RIOT games support lacks understanding on how they communicate. If you ask me if you can play with me and my buddies, I say no. You ask me why? <- Because I said no and if you continue to ask me I will block/unfriend you.

What was the reason for me not allowing you to play with me and my buddies? <- Here is the problem.

Arcade Lulu2 votes

Post your logs

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

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Post your logs

I can do that but it serves no purpose... if riot support crew cant explain it and they have the rulebook... nothing you say will matter cause you are not in charge over my account you know. Why are you requesting my logs? I can show you logs and you tell me why I was banned. <- Want this?

MuteAllFromStart1 votes

Btw, noone have even tried to answer the only question that is in OP <- That's the level of this board? <- Good to know.

ModJikker1 votes

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