Pls dont match me with players i just reported.

koshkyra··27 votes·12,959 views

So im in a match where we were losing. I was playing Lux mid and was doing decent (i think i was like 2/2/1 or smt) but the enemy ekko i was laning against was getting kills off of roaming. I would ping MIA, i'd danger ping bot, i once even typed "guys get to tower now ekko is gone" and they still just ignored me and died like (omitted) everytime.

I knew we had lost the game at like 15 minutes, but i tried to keep cool and just didnt speak at all. My team started flaming me after i said something like "wow ekko just did 700 damage to me with an E". They were saying stuff like "hes 8/2 idiot" and "dont feed next time" and "stop crying." So i replied with "im not feeding." So, they start going beserk and i mute them after like 30 seconds. I reported 2 people at the end of the game.

I see one of them in my next lobby (i noticed that once you get in plat and above, you start familiarizing names) and didnt realize at first. He then replies with "oh fuck its that shit lux from last game" (for the record, i ended with the most kills and least deaths on my team, and had the most cs in the game.) He bans lux (i had her hovered) and then starts harassing me again. I cant mute him bc its pre-game, so i just try to ignore chat and continue with my game.

I picked LeBlanc and was against a Leona mid (??) and i was doing really good at like the 12 minute mark. Leona was like 4/3 from killing my jg a lot, but i was (i think) 3/1 and had almost double her cs. I hadnt muted the player yet because i forgot to, since they hadnt said anything yet when we got into game.

Then, Leona starts roaming top (they were the toplaner) and they died alot (i was pinging!). I got the turret the 2nd time she roamed, but then died to a 3man on my way to recall.

Obviously, the top starts lashing out on me and i muted them. We lost 15 minutes later.

Sorry to write such a long wall of text but i just wanted to share my story to ask if i could not see people i just reported in my next game. It was a very unpleasant experience that i shouldnt have had to deal with. Thanks for reading.

39 Comments

Phieldworker7 votes

I liked that you ignored them. It really helps a lot. I’m sorry to hear you had to go through a match like that. It’s wishful thinking but I wish people would stop looking to blame others and instead look to better themselves by the mistakes they make. One day.

Just ff You Lose1 votes

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I liked that you ignored them. It really helps a lot. I’m sorry to hear you had to go through a match like that. It’s wishful thinking but I wish people would stop looking to blame others and instead look to better themselves by the mistakes they make. One day.

let's all commend OP for doing something that the scientific community unanimously agreed is terrible for mental health. Great job for repressing your anger towards them.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

Just because you say scientific doesn't mean your statement is anymore valid. It's good that he ignored them because nothing good would come of retaliating. There are other ways to deal with your anger that doesn't involve getting pulled down to their level.

CiphonW6 votes

I’ve experienced this several times and understand how annoying it is. What if instead of what you suggest, they add a check box to the report menu that says “Add this player to your block list” so you can choose whether or not you’re willing to risk being matched with the player again.

TheSingularity8 votes

Honestly it should just do that anyway. Especially in low elo where you could block thousands of people and your matchmaking wouldn't be impacted.

Shoud see my block list. It's freaking massive

Buff Caitlyn4 votes

Would be bad for Diamond+ elo where player play agaisnt the same people everyday, they would just block the bad players and abuse it

CiphonW1 votes

Isn't it just as likely to be matched against bad players as it is to be matched with them? Plus as the game stands right now there's nothing stopping diamond+ players from blocking other people that they think are bad. Since it's not a problem now I doubt it'd be a problem with a simple change like this. On the other hand I do see how accidentally blocking someone when you don't want to because you forgot to uncheck of a box could be a problem though. Maybe the way it is now is fine...

Tomoe Gozen4 votes

Can't be done. Riot has already discussed why they are reserved in this sense, mainly because they do not want people having an easy "avoid" button to press anytime they feel and you just know that this function is not going to be used responsibly by the vast majority of the community. This kind of evasion of potential teammates would dramatically increase the queue times, in which the overall quality of matches would be drastically reduced because the matchmaking would intentionally match you with a wider variety of players below or above your ELO, in order for you not to wait in queue for hours on end.

Blizzard did this in Overwatch though but their "prevent matchmaking with blocked players" only extends to two people per player because they shared the same concerns Riot had in allowing the ever-expanding list of blocked players per player over time, to impact matchmaking in a negative way. They have also said they are monitoring this system closely and will reduce/increase the block list if that test proves positive or negative impact on matchmaking.

I certainly would be open to this idea in League but given that i'm way too trigger happy to mute/block people i genuinely dislike if they change their builds and then lose horribly, i am telling you that i would likely not be responsible enough to use this button. Two people blocked and avoided in matchmaking would likely not impact the queue times or quality of games that much but this is only from my own perspective. Multiply this list to thousands and thousands of players in the same/similar ELO and you get a matchmaking algorithm that needs to avoid minefields from multiple players, just to avoid blocked people on everyone's blacklist.

rtbf2256182414 votes

This feature cannot exist in League because players in Master/Challenger would then gain the ability to filter select players from their respective ladders. Imagine if you're in Challenger KR and you would eliminate Faker from your matchmaking by reporting him all the time?

Marshbouy3 votes

This is exactly the issue. The only way I could see this problem being solved is if they disable the function for people above a certain tier level.

Beacon Academy1 votes

I think what you meant to say was eliminating bad players from your team so you play against them instead...

Unless you were trying to say Faker is bad I guess...

rtbf2256182412 votes

Eliminating players that are too good against you. In high elo. In Challenger for example with only a 100 people on the ladder and Master with 200 if i recall correctly. Do you think they wouldn't abuse this for a more favorable matchup with a non-pro player?

Beacon Academy1 votes

*OP talks about people being toxic on his team

*OP wants to not play with these toxic players

*Key word is "with"

*You go off assuming he doesn't want them in the match to begin with

*If that is what he was going for, then he would be telling Riot to ban/punish people faster so they wouldn't be getting to their next match in the first place.

Are you getting the picture yet?

rtbf2256182411 votes

It doesn't matter what the OP intends. If this was implemented it could be abused for anyone's own agenda. That means everyone would have this kind of power and it would most commonly be used for eliminating the best players from people's matchmaking.

Beacon Academy1 votes

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I'm not saying this should be implemented at all dude.

All I'm saying is what you're saying this could be used for is not possible with what the OP was saying.

You keep going on about "eliminating best players from people's matchmaking"

When the OP is talking about his own team only

IN OTHER WORDS THE BEST PLAYERS YOU "REPORT" WOULD BE ON THE ENEMY TEAM IF YOU DID WHAT YOU SAY YOU WOULD DO WITH THIS.

#IS THIS GETTING THROUGH TO YOU YET?

rtbf2256182411 votes

What? The OP is completely out of the equation here.

THE BEST PLAYERS YOU "REPORT" WOULD BE ON THE ENEMY TEAM IF YOU DID WHAT YOU SAY YOU WOULD DO WITH THIS.

HOW? You report the person, he's not in your game anymore. At all. It has nothing to do with op's toxicity complaint or whatever. This feature should never be implemented or it would have to be disabled for people above Platinum at the very least.

Unless you're talking about something else.

Beacon Academy1 votes

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What? The OP is completely out of the equation here.

The OP's suggestion is what this topic is about.

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HOW? You report the person, he's not in your game anymore. At all.

At this point you are pretending to be this dense dude.

What part of:

Reporting players makes them not be on "your" team so you have to deal with less toxic -team mates-

Results in you thinking:

Huh, if I report someone, they won't be in a the game -at all-!

rtbf2256182411 votes

So you're implying that reporting people on the enemy team would still match them with you, but if they're on your team they wouldn't be on yours after reporting?

What the fuck would be the use of this? You could still report pretty much every played in Master or Challenger you come across until you only start playing against Diamonds.

Beacon Academy1 votes

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Dude...

You are actually...


If you report a team member... They won't be on your team. But they can be on the enemy team.

If you report an enemy... They won't be on your team. But they can be on the enemy team.

If you report every challenger and master player... They won't be on your team. But they can be on the enemy team and you'll get diamonds.

If you report every good player... They won't be on your team. But they can be on the enemy team and you'll get baddies.


I am not saying this should ever be implemented.

I am only trying to let you know you're taking this idea the wrong way as in thinking they won't be in games at all if reported.

The OP just wants to not have toxic team mates on his team.


Seriously...

I cannot...

I repeat.

I cannot...

Dumb this down any more than this.

If you still don't get it at this point, then there is nothing more to say.

rtbf2256182411 votes

"If you report X on X team they can still be on enemy team."

This is nowhere in the post and it is a completely pointless proposition as it defeats the point of having a toxic asshole in your game. If they're not on your team, then what's the point of bringing them on the enemy team? They'll just use allchat.

Beacon Academy1 votes
  1. Every example was about team members being toxic and never about the enemy team.

  2. Not everyone uses all chat. In fact I'm pretty sure its off by default.

  3. You can't be endlessly ping harrassed by the enemy team.

It doesn't matter how toxic someone on the enemy team is. You're still playing against someone and you're not the one who has to deal with them.

Toxic teams on the other hand, involve communication that could potentially be muted.

And lack of meaningful communication can and will cost you games.

rtbf2256182411 votes

You're really going to tell me communication is the key here? A toxic person can be a very good player, regardless if they're toxic. I've had a few of those shitheads in my games too. They didn't communicate at all and just flamed everyone.

Almost everyone uses allchat and you can mute pings. In my experience, even in high-Platinum, people do not listen to my pings when i am genuinely shotcalling not when i am ganking or something like that. They simply do not. Muting them won't change anything.

And removing people from your own teams can fuck with the matchmaking if you're in higher ranks like Diamond or Master etc.

Beacon Academy1 votes

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Except that i don't. That is not how you argue.

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Except that i don't. That is not how you argue.

again.


Because you obviously don't understand what we're arguing over.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Well seeing as you're blindly accusing me of idk what, in order to maybe "win" an argument, we're propably done here. You're delusional and have no idea how an argument works at all. I'm guessing you're the one who doesn't know what we're talking about or just are failing to admit how wrong you are.

Bye then.

HolyJellyMate1 votes

Ya'll could've made 2 ham sammiches in the time wasted on this argument.

Beacon Academy1 votes

Didn't even respond to me lol.

All I said initially was that you had the wrong idea about what the OP wanted.

OP doesn't want to play with toxic team mates. He never once said anything about enemy teams.

You go on about removing players from match making completely, thinking you can remove players so you don't have to play against good players.

Completely different.

But the entire time you keep saying:

"This shouldn't be implemented. This shouldn't be implemented. This shouldn't be implemented. This shouldn't be implemented. This shouldn't be implemented. This shouldn't be implemented."

#I'm not fucking saying it should be implemented... Because it shouldn't.

#I'm just saying you were applying the OPs thoughts in the wrong way.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Yeah and i already got that. That the OP wants to remove toxic teammates only. So why the fuck are you still here?

Beacon Academy1 votes

why the fuck are you still here?

Maybe because there was no indication of an "Oh my bad dude"

The very first thing I said was:

[{quoted}](name=Beacon Academy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=UY20PGj4,comment-id=00090001,timestamp=2018-06-22T19:24:40.770+0000)

I think what you meant to say was...

I've never once said this should be implemented at all.

What I got in return overall:

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Eliminating players that are too good against you.

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That means everyone would have this kind of power and it would most commonly be used for eliminating the best players from people's matchmaking.

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You report the person, he's not in your game anymore. At all. It has nothing to do with op's toxicity complaint or whatever. This feature should never be implemented...

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What the fuck would be the use of this? You could still report pretty much every played in Master or Challenger you come across until you only start playing against Diamonds.

And now you say:

Yeah and i already got that. That the OP wants to remove toxic teammates only.

But right before that was:

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I'm guessing you're the one who doesn't know what we're talking about or just are failing to admit how wrong you are.

Contradiction or implied "woops"

Whatever, I'll take it.

rtbf2256182411 votes

If you didn't notice, my replies were in chronological order. Exactly what are you still doing here? I already understood where i misunderstood the argument but this feature is still fundamentally flawed. You still kept arguing for some reason despite me already understanding that you meant that the OP was implying that this feature would be used to remove toxic teammates only.

Beacon Academy1 votes

There was barely, if any, indication of you saying anything along the lines of "oh my bad" or "Oh ok"

Which is why I kept going for "Hey you got the wrong idea about what the OP wants" for so long.

You kept going for the "This shouldn't be implemented" arguments even though I never once said it should be implemented. You kept using more examples based on your initial flawed view of the subject, with the only one even remotely close to what I was trying to say was your example of reporting enemy players would put them on your own team (Seriously wtf? How do you come to that conclusion from what I said??? lol)

Even right now, you're trying to act like you're on the high ground and never wrong in the first place xD

At this point its more funny than frustrating.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Look, i don't really care anymore. All i get is that you have way too much time on your hands and you're wasting my time via notifications.

Unless you're here to troll, goodbye.

Phieldworker2 votes

What rank are you in? I’m S4 and trying to climb for the first time.

I Feed As Yasuoo2 votes

lmfao nice situation you got yourself in

Rezlac1 votes

To be honest I really hate getting into a game lobby where one person says

Wow i'm qued with the shit x. great we gonna lose

Or something along those lines. It would be nice to completely stop these scenarios by mutes/blocks prevent this entirely. The benefit of this would increase que times of toxic players.

LibroMastro1 votes

lmao, is league That dead?

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

As a fellow Platinum 2 player. I feel you. This Elo is filled with assholes that think they were LCS players in their past lives.

FireDrizzle1 votes

I kept getting matched with the same malph main, we played in the same team atleast 3 matches and whenever anyone dodged we were put back on the same team.

F R l D A Y1 votes

fix the trash match making always met trolls always always always even reported trolls riot never accepted so funny then why riot made the reporting system im curious u seriously working on it ?

rayzo1 votes

This was a thing before. You could report someone for "unskilled player" and they wouldn't show up in your future games. However this became a big problem in higher elos where people would report everyone that was better than them so they could easily climb in rank by dodging the good players. I see a possible solution to this in making it normals/low elo only, however this might still be exploitable.

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