Perm Suspended?

Ada Wong·11/20/2015, 9:39:15 AM·1 votes·822 views

I tried to login to League to play today and got a message saying my account was perm suspended, checked my email with a 3 day ban.

**Actions that have been performed on your account are in violation of the League of Legends Terms of Use. You can review these terms at http://www.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse

Due to the severity of this violation, your League of Legends account has been banned until Tue Feb 22 22:22:22 UTC 2828

If you have any questions, contact our Player Support team at https://support.leagueoflegends.com/home

Riot Games Player Support ** However I see no logs in my email, and have to file a support ticket to question this because only thing I can think of is a lot of toxic match-ups with players being toxic and spamming reports for intentional feeding / being annoying in quite a few of my games.

Riot could you at least keep your word and provide logs to emails when you ban them with an actual reason for the bans, because playing badly isn't a punish worthy offense especially when your mate keeps running off the turret and refuses to play defensive and you do very badly as a result...

15 Comments

Zielmann11/20/2015, 5:49:42 PM2 votes

Honestly, based on the wording 'actions that have been performed on your account', it makes me think it's not necessarily a behavior thing. Possibly boosting, credit card issues, or account sharing. You'd need to submit a ticket to support for more details on this.

Deep Terror Nami11/20/2015, 9:42:14 AM2 votes

If they manually review and assign the punishment then you won't get a reform card. Just do the support ticket and wait for a response.

Ada Wong11/20/2015, 10:42:21 AM1 votes

Holy shit guess that is what it is then from playing really badly, hard to play when your ADC who auto locks every single game refuses to play defensively on turret then yes I let them know I can do very badly, but often just leads to players being hateful/toxic and I don't want to hear it so I just mute and play the game the best that it can actually be played which in a lot of cases can clearly show.

I did this badly too before for feeding on some days especially with the bad match-ups got no ban but thanks for finding this for me I will go ahead and reply to the ticket, and hopefully they will remove the block and actually see that this is not the case of intentionally feeding the enemy never have done that intentionally but can't go AFK either because going AFK is a ban worthy offense, even though I know the game is going to go very bad.

If this is actually a perm ban for playing this badly with all the new changes to the masteries, and being spam reported by players who refused to play defensively and I admit I did bad because of this then I am done with league all together, (No I don't Smurf, I have one other account which I don't even remember the login name, and never really used it but like a few times.)

When I say feeding, I mean over-all feeding as in giving kills but not intentionally, as I understand this is against the summoners code and have always been afraid of getting into trouble for giving kills to the enemy, but do understand players have bad games too even when its not myself feeding but others in games who have went -20 before, I don't get angry over it unless I truly know its intentional for sure, I understand players have bad match-ups and how snow-balling works, in this case if I am honestly in trouble for playing this awful, then the players who did this bad that I actually did good against should be in trouble as well, but honestly I never reported them because they did badly they were just having a bad game, but I watched as the enemy team at the end game screen harassed them for it, and that behavior is just awful.

LegendaryLemur11/20/2015, 8:25:23 PM1 votes

inb4 summoner 11 (2828 means Lyte personally reviewed your file and issued the ban)

nerak2311/20/2015, 10:43:34 PM1 votes

inb4 (2828 means Lyte personally reviewed your file and issued the ban)

Is That true ??

EDIT: I guess it is ...I didn't look at the links provided before I said that... hummm

Ada Wong11/20/2015, 11:12:25 PM1 votes

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I think that message is for pretty much any violation that isn't chat related. If it was chat related he would be able to log in and see the chat logs but not play. I think there may be a similar thing with intentional feeding bans.

But that message is basically everything else: boosting, payment issues, scripting, 3rd party mods. But technically every violation is a ToS violation.

The 2828 year code suggests it was a manual ban from the player behavior team. And there are a lot of highly suspicious games in his history particularly on heimer. The one that looked the worst his whole team actually only had 4 kills so I donno. I wish there was a replay available for one of those games so I could see what happened.

Thanks for the info, I am not really sure what 2828 means I prefer to get my information directly from someone who works from Riot, and if someone can't resolve an issue find someone higher up, in general what I mean is I am not sure if a 2828 means directly from Lyte as some have said but seems to make more sense for a ban code for specific reasons, or ban by player behavior team rather than an individual person.

I would rather it just be payment issues, 3rd party mod, or false boosting, Although I do not use any type of illegal 3rd party mods and have reported others using them the only third party application I use is LOLReplay which even interacts with League OF Legends just to record the game, and sometimes curse voice when I get my friends online.

And yes I agree my match history is god awful right now, I agree, I would love to make my match history look a lot better and I am sure with the new coming season and new role system, my stats would start to be a lot better compared to how pathetic my feeding has been (Not Intentional feeding) but this is what happens when I play a Solo Queue, and get matched with players who can't play similar alike, and in 2 or 3 of my games when I said play defensively I had people auto locking and just auto attacking everything even in some cases my support players doing this, of course I am going to have a bad score then the enemy gets too far ahead, and me doing a lane phase is just really hard, very bad play. (Which is the reason I asked riot over the years to put a role selector into ranked.) Because I know I can play damn well better than how awful a lot of my matches look the last few days.

. I can also understand how it looks like intentionally feeding when I ended up giving first blood to the enemy in a couple of games because other players pinged to go in and I died to the enemy even though I said to play defensively and they did not want to.

If anything I truly think this is for intentional feeding because a lot of players get angry in games and will spam for Intentional Feeding, but I have been playing LOL for 4 or more years on this same account, I agree that my behavior hasn't always been perfect, but "Intentional Feeding" is far from something I would just do in a game for the laughs of it, "IF I truly wanted to do this, I would just make SMURF accounts as people call them and Intentionally feed piss people off let them rage then report them, but this truly isn't the case, I have two accounts one I made and played like 5 games on about 2 years ago haven't really used the other account that is a low level since that long ago I just play strictly on one account, and have no reason to be a toxic player who just intentionally feeds things, and honestly I can do down a long list of reasons players feed, if its not me its someone else, and I have seen other players doing almost as bad as me in a lot of games, but I didn't go off on them, I watched other players do it though.

Its a new season as well, players are going to do badly especially with the massive talent changes, and I don't expect people to be perfect, I watched players playing very badly in games I was playing in fact we lost because of some of them, but I didn't rage because I could tell even though some players Fed or died 10 or more times sometimes, or died and cost us the game it wasn't intentional just bad play, and my opinion is players have reasons for their bad play, mine being certain roles in this game where people don't play the same way I tend to do badly in the game, and I have played badly for years in bot roles, even when I try to play defensive some days are just awful.

And to be honest I don't care if another player does just as bad I wouldn't report them unless I knew it was Intentional, or had a very good reason to think so playing badly in situations of forced role, enemy getting ahead, no proper team comp to fight players dying because of it, I understand its all part of the game, its bronze, and in my case forced roles mainly with players I feel have no idea what they are doing, I think I mention this before I was duo with a Gold 3+ player before, and honestly I couldn't even play with them, I had to play with friends I haven't seen on in a long time bot lane and when I did we both did really well together and it was "Off Meta" and non common stuff too.

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Is That true ??

EDIT: I guess it is ...I didn't look at the links provided before I said that... hummm

Not sure if its true about being directly from Lyte, or rather from the PB team, but I would rather it if Riot could actually provide a reason when they send out a suspension email rather than a code and leave everyone in question.

Still waiting on Riots response in the ticket I open, hopefully they fix this I could honestly use a little break anyways and would rather play when the new role system comes in anyways because my stats would be much better, and I think toxicity will improve over-all too, not to mention how much better I Think my personal stats would be, perhaps not perfect but I think better for sure compared to how pathetic my games look recently.

o Maui o11/20/2015, 11:34:56 PM1 votes

So I'm not trying to make any accusations, because I know you said that you were playing really poorly, but just looking at your match history... it really looks like intentionally bad play. It might not have been, but that's what it looks like.

The things that jump out to me:

  1. a combined score of 10/74/25 in four straight games.

  2. 115 minutes of gameplay in those four games. It's hard to get that many deaths in that much time without actively trying to die. One game was 15 deaths in 19 minutes.

  3. Multiple instances of going 10+ minutes without purchasing an item (despite 74 death timers). In one game, you only visited the item shop once after your starting items, and that visit didn't come until after 16 minutes.

There's more. And while I'm sure it can all be explained, you have to admit that it doesn't really look like someone who is just having a few bad games. It looks like someone who is, at best, not trying. Again, not an accusation, just look at those four games and tell me that it looks like someone who was trying to win.

Ada Wong11/21/2015, 12:35:10 AM1 votes

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So I'm not trying to make any accusations, because I know you said that you were playing really poorly, but just looking at your match history... it really looks like intentionally bad play. It might not have been, but that's what it looks like.

The things that jump out to me:

  1. a combined score of 10/74/25 in four straight games.

  2. 115 minutes of gameplay in those four games. It's hard to get that many deaths in that much time without actively trying to die. One game was 15 deaths in 19 minutes.

  3. Multiple instances of going 10+ minutes without purchasing an item (despite 74 death timers). In one game, you only visited the item shop once after your starting items, and that visit didn't come until after 16 minutes.

There's more. And while I'm sure it can all be explained, you have to admit that it doesn't really look like someone who is just having a few bad games. It looks like someone who is, at best, not trying. Again, not an accusation, just look at those four games and tell me that it looks like someone who was trying to win.

Thanks, Yes I understand where you come from, and understand how bad my match history looks from other peoples point of view, and I agree I totally dislike this as well, and hopefully will get a chance to actually make this improve especially with the new season.

Looking at my own stats I truly understand how awful they are even before the ban I was looking at them because when I do this badly is usually when I would get my chat restrictions before so I knew because of how bad this was I was likely going to get a suspension or a temporary ban or something just didn't think it would be perm for doing this poorly.

There are a few games I was just flat out trolled in for sure, and I am not sure what 4 games you talk about but I know for sure at least a couple of games I was raging in Real Life pissed off a lot and just totally forgot to buy proper items at the times I was supposed to I remember one in specific looking down and seeing I had like 3k gold not even paying attention to it before I bought anything really, that and watching the toxic comments in chat about how useless I am and watching my own team feed and lose turrets not really being able to do anything in one of my specific games because no one even bothered to leash, or played for off meta type of play, but I know that these games I could have played better if not dealing with the forced role, or toxicity rather, or other players had have taken actual champions that synced could have done better especially in my last game of 2/21/9 if its the game I am thinking of I could have done better for sure but we didn't have the team comp and in one of the games not sure if it was this one players were arguing I didn't want to rage so I just turned off chat and fed because look at the team comp ours vs theirs for example.

Veigar + kindred + UDYR all counters on the enemy team, meanwhile we don't have any hard cc, the proper team to fight with, or I could have done better than this if this is that toxic match I am thinking about where players were throwing insults and losing easily I think its this one, so yes no matter if I go in to try to do something when the enemy is attacking turret, or contest a dragon or do something useful then I am going to get slain obviously.

However this is why I do not like playing any type of bot role, or jungle role, bot role being my absolutely worst, and jungle depending on actual team play can be just as bad unless there is the right team setup and I know what I am playing around to do well in, however this is why in 2.5 or 2.6 new season with a role selection I know I can select my two best roles, and expand that to more when I get either higher tier rank, or find other players who play similiar to those select few I used to be able to do well with before they left to other games I think.

But yes I understand where you come from, and if I was you looking at the same stats I would think the same thing you think yourself, but with all honestly its not the case of just intentionally feeding massively but rather match-making at its finest, I had this same problem happen to me in the past, but it was before the new Reporting system so it was never punished even though it was as bad at times, but always improved eventually with the right match-making, in fact with the right match-making I have went on nothing but massive win streaks before, or massive loss streaks its really random depending on what I have to play, and if other players can actually play and think outside of the box when having to do duo roles, a good example with a complete stranger in my game before I did super well with, but its rare to get those type of players, and I think its a big matter of skill difference between the way I play vs the way they would be playing.

However as a long time MOBA player for over 3 maybe 4 years now, I would have to say that this doesn't just happen in League, I have personally went on loss streaks in Smite, DOTA 2, but never been perm banned, only in DOTA 2 hit with 2 automated restrictions over the years, but I personally feel that if more MOBA's adopt the way League's new selection system is becoming players including myself will do a lot better game-play wise because its common sense.

Sticking two players who main two roles as a bot lane player for bot lane players would likely do better than sticking me as a player who thinks and plays way differently than most, in addition I was almost Gold 5 in the 2014 season and I got there by doing nothing but playing off meta jungle, Mid, and Top Solo, however once players started to force me to go bot, and I started getting matched with players who did not respond or play fast enough I started doing badly and that is how I never made it to gold.

A good example, and I know this isn't League but since I am unable to play League I am playing HOTS, I have sometimes lame players, but I don't rage, but to get to the point I do a lot better in games like this when I am able to just play as I need to compared to League when you are forced to play roles sometimes multiple games in a row and do badly because of it.

http://imgur.com/NGE5wbR

If this were being compared to League you would see where the enemy team would have a bunch of feeders, and as I have said other than DOTA 2 I have been playing Smite, HOTS, and other MOBA's never gotten a punishment for doing the worst because its not intentional, and I don't think the players I played against in HOTS deserve a punishment either just for doing badly.

Edit: Despite how badly my match history looks it should explain itself more-less that I am telling the truth at least that I do a lot worse when having to play certain things in certain conditions, however I was always told by players, and Riot that doing this badly wouldn't result in a ban, although I knew in my gut that because of how badly I was doing I was going to get a restriction or a 2 week ban just never thought I would wake up to a perm ban for doing this awful in a chain of games because its happened before with no perm ban.

Sukishoo11/21/2015, 12:37:45 AM1 votes

That 2828, damn.

Ada Wong11/20/2015, 10:13:40 AM1 votes

Yep Just did I think its going to more-less be a ban if anything for intentional feeding because of a couple of days of very bad match-ups and bad play, was really looking forward to the new Role System would have improved match-making so much, however it should be obvious that I do actually try to play my games on some of those shown on my history.

However based off the ban code it could perhaps be a billing issue hopefully its something that can be fixed.