Support hate: I have a new plan

Lost R··2 votes·562 views

Anyone who wants to bitch at the support, and harass them for supposedly being the "useless" team member by definition, you won't get any boon from the support. No crowd control, no buffs, no healing, no anything.

Then you should be forced to be the support under threat of being permabanned until you learn to respect the role.

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BubblyRainbows3 votes

I was a support player for a long time. I enjoyed helping someone else shine. But the OP's comments are the reason I no longer play support unless autofilled to it. I came to hate playing a position where somehow EVERYTHING was my fault, but I never received any positivity for the help I gave. ADC pushes up too far, ignores your warning that the jungler is incoming and dies 1v3 when you pull back? "Sacrifice yourself for the ADC!" Try to save the ADC and die? "Quit feeding, noob!" Last hit an enemy that's out of the ADC's reach to secure the kill and get your ADC an assist? "Quit taking my kills! Toxic support!" DON'T last hit and the enemy gets away? "You could have finished him! Trash player!" ADC gets caught out while you're back at base healing and picking up items? "Where were you?"

I just got tired of it. Was the ADC always at fault? No. Of course not. I make mistakes. But I got tired of playing a role where whether I was legitimately making mistakes or the ADC was just awful and making stupid plays, somehow it was always my fault. This is why there is a shortage of support players. I used to have a LOT of support mains on my list of friends. Know how many of them still main support? Zero. Literally.

Lost R1 votes

I've been the support for over four years now because no one else will, because back in Season three, people would enter a baby punching, blood puking rage over the idea of being the support for even a microsecond and sabotage every game until they were permabanned. My will is the strongest force you will ever know.

There's a grave disparity of supports in the game at the moment, and the community hemorrhages increasingly more of them each and every day because of the maltreatment. Soon enough this won't be a game of anything unless Riot can right the ship and come down harder on people who think they can attack their own team and pretend that they are the only one that matters.

PapercutOmen1 votes

Yeha support isnt even part of the team. just someone the other players can use to kick around, verbally abuse. blame for the loss, etc. There is a reason why Support role is nicknamed "lane slave" its right there

Yet Riot is too oblivious to know "why does no one want to play support role? Hmm maybe new characters? New support items? new support skins? new support features?

NO NO NO NO NO fix the god damn "supports are lower than the $#!% on my shoe" mentality that supports are seen as.

Lost R1 votes

The problem is you can't patch the community, and people will only pay attention to the things they want to force themselves to pay attention to exclusively, and what people will pay attention to is actually far less than they claim. If you have a Yasuo main who says they only ever play Yasuo, they don't actually know his full list of strengths and weaknesses, nor do they consider how to approach different situations, or how to build in reaction to the threats at hand. I can guarantee you that 99.4% of all Yasuo mains, and by extension every other player, will build according to something predetermined, potentially not even their own decision, and not based on whether the enemy team is mage or tank heavy, for example. Hell, it's a trial to get anyone to even build Grevious Wounds, even if Soraka is on the enemy team and everyone won't shut the hell up about how much she heals.

That's the level of extreme binary thinking we have to walk back, and there are forces determined to perpetuate that mentality.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

Just keep doing your best to carry your team! Avoiding healing/buffing your teammates will only make your chances of winning slimmer, and proving their point correct. Mute, and just do your very best is my opinion!

Also; I don't think that forcing someone to play the role or be permabanned is a very viable solution. If anything it'll cause more bitterness/resentment towards Support players.

Lost R1 votes

I don't believe in the philosophy of being allowed to shit in the hand that feeds you without consequence. The only role that is actually required to care about the well being of their team is the support; no one else is, and that has helped lead to this 1v9 solocarry mentality that everyone has, which is why entire divisions are filled with assassin mains who spend more energy screaming at each other over how big their mastery and/or rank dick is than they do on anything else, including and especially the actual game at hand.

There are three other champions on the team that also desperately need help, so the person who wants to shit on the support role just for existing will be the absolute dead last in line to be helped. If they're ever helped at all.

PapercutOmen1 votes

yeah as a support I take alot of verbal abuse, alot of flaming and harrassment. And yet it seems people are under the impression "Well you are just support. Just ignore it and keep supporting" NO NO NO I am not going to support someone who goes out of their way to intentionally sabotage me, tells me how completely useless I am, calls me garbage for not building what THEY want. Will take what they want and then kick me down. Also I am glad I am not the only one who has seen the rise of the "1v9, Solo carry/every player for themselves" mentality Its no longer about winning as a team (and people dont even consider support part of the team) its about who can brag about having the most kills. thats all.

Kei1432 votes

pssstttt.. just teach them to point the finger at the jungler instead.

Chermorg1 votes

I weakly support this proposition to get the support of the team for supports around the Rift that don't get enough support from their not-so-supportive teammates.

On a serious note, I think it's an interesting proposition to put forced roles on accounts who are abusing someone for the role they're playing. People who harp on or blame support? Maybe make them play support a few games. Same for people who bitch at the jungle for not ganking, etc.

Kei1431 votes

watch them take champ select hostage.

Shroom Merchant1 votes

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Lost R1 votes

Anyone who tries to hold a game hostage should be instantly and immediately permabanned.

Beas7ie1 votes

If this applies to all roles then what's to stop people from ripping on their preferred roles to get "forced" to play what they want? I mainly play jungle, top, and mid so I can abuse the system be saying things like "Great job ADC and Support too bad noob Jungler doesn't gank" the system will see me being nice to bot and mean to jungler and then go into the "Ok, let's make this guy jungle" mode.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Or just let the simple minded people who think that, continue to think that. If they call you useless in game, just report em. If it's just their personal opinion, any intelligent person will see their stupidity. That's their punishment. Being a simpleton whose intelligence is no longer respected because of their shallow views.

Shroom Merchant1 votes

i dont play support just for that reason always gets the blame for the loss never any credit for the win

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

I got 9 stuns get it in 7 kills and I missed 1 flash stun and he looses it calls me trash and spams asking for reports like wtf I'm done supporting the second my teammates harras me I'm not helping them anymore I control when they live and die they get no choice muhahahahahaha jk I just mute and move on lol

Shroom Merchant1 votes

i was supporting and ryze and me were bot at the time ryze been flaming me all game ryze had 20 health left i was full health blocking a spear if thrown nid throws her spear while we running i flash dodge spear and spear kills ryze that has been flaming me all game ryze would of lived if i had not flashed then i bard ult nid and get away

PapercutOmen1 votes

I am a support. and I have had alot of games where my adc will get a couple kills and then start turning on me. If adc tells me how "useless" I am, I will go off to help other lanes and support other teammates.

Its so funny when adcs brag about how great they are, how they dont need a "useless support" then the MOMENT they get 2v1'ed by the enemy team (remember, they are pro, they dont NEED a support) I will see "OMG Report my support, abandoned lane and refuses to support me"

Recently grew tired of dealing with children and now I wont support unless the mood hits. I am personally tired of the "ever player for themselves" mentality. So I will adapt to it and just play solo.

K i η k y 1 votes

Well, i used to main support and now i'm kind of useless on other lanes so i kept playng it. Sometimes you have nice ADC's sometimes you don't. That's how the game works. Usually if you do something wrong ( missing skillshot, reacting a bit slower and stuff ) which causes their death be sure they're gonna flame the shit out of you for being useless and noob. When this happen I'm just like " Fine, if I'm useless you don't need me, I'm just gonna leave ya there fighting em solo" and I really do it. So if I'm JannaJanna or blitzBlitzcrank or any support with cc it will be very helpful for other lanes. The last time I did this was before 1-2 months. I used to play with my friend who was jungle and I was ThreshThresh so we went together on an adventure ganking mid and top, which won us the game. Sometimes you just need to ignore them and focus on the rest of the team. Enjoy your games guys <3

PapercutOmen1 votes

Oh YES, I do this alot as well, as a support. If My adc sits there and calls me useless after I bust my ass trying to save them trying to get them fed trying to leash the enemy down for them.

I walk.

and you cannot call it trolling. My logic is simple: If you think you are THAT good. THAT skilled that you can handle the lane solo. If you think you dont need any "useless" support getting in your way with pesky healing and CC....Fine! I am HAPPY to CALL YOUR BLUFF I am the -Teams- support. Not your personal little verbal abuse lane slave. Good luck with your solo lane, I will be off helping the teammates who dont have thier swelled head permanently wedged up thier ass

and I will do it. usually after that, i get the pleasure of watching adc Immediately dive into a 2v1....and die instantly. Followed by "/all OMG report my troll support for abandoning lane. Refuses to come to lane and do their job" Or some bs like that. (they will conveniently leave out how they declared they didnt need a "useless support" as well)

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