Why do people have to flame in post game after they've won?

Forhonor321··38 votes·3,339 views

Just got out of a game where i was Shyv and this Lee Sin was doing extreme ganking on my team. Game later goes on and a kill him a few times, he talks about how OP Shyvana is. Nothing too infuriating, if not just being a natural response. Later we end up surrendering the game cause it isn't going so well for us and in post game the Lee starts bragging how "EZ" Shyv was, how I needed to gank more, and us kids need to "get gud".

This kind of behavior I think just gets to me the most when it comes to post game chat. Yeah, you died to a fairly simple mechanics-based champ, but that doesn't give you any sort of right to act like a fucking dick in chat by grieving over those few deaths by me afterwards. You got your victory, just take it and try being a fucking sportsmen about it.

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Reign L910 votes

Report that kind of behaviour, as it is an offense as per the Summoner's Code. 6. Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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Report that kind of behaviour, as it is an offense as per the Summoner's Code. 6. Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat

And yet gg ez is a plague that has nothing done about it. Sorry, but your statement is either foolish or a lie.

Reign L99 votes

I totally agree with you, "GGEZ" is a Plague.

In fact, i do believe the current automated systems handling the bulk of the player behaviour reports is deeply flawed and does not nearly do a sufficient job. However that does not make the statement wrong, it simply isn't enforced as it should, which sadly cannot be fixed unless riot does something about it.

Zialeska3 votes

they should just do what blizzard did for OW. Anyone says ggez it changes it to something nice XD

Troll for Trump4 votes

Grace in Defeat

salty testi5 votes

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Troll for Trump1 votes

Exactly. Reporting and toxicity are so general, with a category for "passive-aggressive behavior".

Anything you do now violates the summoners' code and is toxic

PlanetWarwick1 votes

Let's be honest nobody cares too much

Kei1436 votes

cos it increases the e-pen size, and we know big is best.

Existential Bard6 votes

I can't agree more with this post!!! When I play, even if I win by a stomp it never crosses my mind to gloat. It's actually repulsive when I witness this from people. Be sportsmanlike in victories.

Papa Andrei1 votes

I honestly love it when some team (enemy or friendly) is flaming you nonstop. But then you carry the game hard and just ":^)" in the post game lobby

Faustavian1 votes

Don't judge me for this, but I'll report my own team (Pre-queue) if they do this and the enemy team was polite. If the enemy team was rude then I let it slide A-okay

Cryo006 votes

I may get down voted to oblivion for this but I do not care. They do such things because they think that winning a game of League of Legends is a big deal. Wake up, winning a game of League does not mean anything. All this means that you are better than somebody else in a fucking video game. A video game of all things. Either that, or the fact that you are good at League is the only thing you have going for you.

XinCrin5 votes

Sometimes I would smash the enemy laner but I would still loose the game due to several reasons, and at the end of the game, the enemy laner I smashed would say "gg ez". Maybe its because they know that they were carried and they are salty because of it.

The Great Divide1 votes

90% of the time those who brag the loudest were the ones who were carried the most

Ugly Cat Sweater4 votes

Is there actually a place to report people for their post game chat behavior? I'm very upset that people can call one another %%%gots and tell others to kill themselves with no method of punishing this. I do have a screenshot of this for the record, but would prefer to not have to publicly post it.

DrCyanide3 votes

You can use the normal report button, but then add a comment about it being the post-game lobby where they showed it. Riot still saves those logs (along with pre-game), they can pull them up and check it out.

Magearna2 votes

Also to add to this, you can also screenshot it (puush, gyazo, print screen to paint, etc.) and send a manual report in at http://support.riotgames.com

Kingnewgameplus3 votes

That's why I hate "gg ez". I get the strategical value in trying to tilt the enemy team with your bm, but after the game is over you don't need to do it anymore. You won. Go home. Be a family man.

Magical Player2 votes

This is funny, lose a game. Being a sportsman doesn't mean not gloating. You lost, you can instant leave or you can ignore chat to do your honor and report

You fail to mention the chat logs of this game. If you talk shit in a game and lose expect to get hit. People gloat over their ability to perform. Really never once say something about a test to another student who may have not done so hot?

Zaryelle1 votes

The difference is people don't tell you to kys over stuff in real life... he is talking about trash talk to the point of flaming, not gloating.

..well actually these LoL obsessed kids at my college do talk like that, it's pretty embarrassing.

Magical Player1 votes

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The difference is people don't tell you to kys over stuff in real life... he is talking about trash talk to the point of flaming, not gloating.

..well actually these LoL obsessed kids at my college do talk like that, it's pretty embarrassing.

So it does happen in real life. Simple this is gloating If you understand that then its not a big deal KYS is wrong But saying gg ez is not

Zaryelle1 votes

Okay well this 'gloating' can go too far and become flaming easily. I wouldn't expect you to understand since you seem like the type to flame people often.

Magical Player1 votes

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Okay well this 'gloating' can go too far and become flaming easily. I wouldn't expect you to understand since you seem like the type to flame people often.

I'd dare say you are wrong. Regardless of my position, you shall assume I gloat and Bm. Clearly I am the TYPE to flame, clearly. I'd dare say your a SJW but clearly you could not be as well. CLEARLY, you have some notion that because I am able to disagree with the above opinion, that I am indeed a flamer. CLEARLY Let my 6 past seasons of league and 0 infractions show that CLEARLY I am a horse's ass in this game. Because clearly having a differing opinion makes me so.

I neither care about your assumption nor find any validation in the attacking someone's character. If you wish to do a battle of words, fine, let us do battle. It matters not to me if you think I'm wrong or right. You think I am something let me Be that something.

I am the CANCER of the COMMUNITY, all shall know. I am the DESTROYER of FUN in GAMES And You Yes You Have just attempted to fan the flames of hell.Good going pal Let the Next 1000 games Be utter hell for all, because you decided to become an SJW over this

(see I give 2 cents about anything, if you read this far you may of noticed I rambled on, if you stopped early. Shame on you)

Zaryelle1 votes

You are defending flamers, and trying to say people should be able to say whatever they want in the game and go unpunished. That is your original position. And now you will try to convince me it's not, but I don't care because you've already proven argument with you is pointless.

It's okay you've been rambling this entire time already

Magical Player1 votes

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You are defending flamers, and trying to say people should be able to say whatever they want in the game and go unpunished. That is your original position. And now you will try to convince me it's not, but I don't care because you've already proven argument with you is pointless.

It's okay you've been rambling this entire time already

No Im defending Free speech So if flaming offends you, so be it. Im offended by flag burners but Im not advocating for them to be sentenced to death

Glory ln Death4 votes

Yeah, no. Being sportsmanlike inherently involves not gloating. Gloating and rubbing your victory in the enemy's face is extremely unsportsmanlike.

Magical Player1 votes

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Yeah, no. Being sportsmanlike inherently involves not gloating. Gloating and rubbing your victory in the enemy's face is extremely unsportsmanlike.

Unsportsmanlike conduct (also called unsporting behaviour or ungentlemanly conduct) is a foul or offense in many sports that violates the sport's generally accepted rules of sportsmanship and participant conduct. Examples include verbal abuse or taunting of an opponent, an excessive celebration following a scoring play, or feigning injury. The official rules of many sports include a catch-all provision whereby participants or an entire team may be penalized or otherwise sanctioned for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Where does it say you can't gloat?

Papa Andrei2 votes

In League of Legends summoners code :)

Magical Player1 votes

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In League of Legends summoners code :)

quote it http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/ heres your link

DrCyanide2 votes

While it's alright to celebrate, make sure that you keep any gloating (or any other mode of self-indulgence) out of all chat.

http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/#6

Post game chat is all (cross team) chat.

Papa Andrei1 votes

You beat me to it rip

Glory ln Death1 votes

If you gloat to yourself (not in chat) that's fine. But when you put it in chat, that falls under several of the things you listed: taunting an enemy, excessive celebration, and sometimes verbal abuse.

Gloating isn't just being proud of your victory, it's bragging and putting the enemy down. "GGEZ", "git gud", "get rekt", etc.

Magical Player1 votes

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If you gloat to yourself (not in chat) that's fine. But when you put it in chat, that falls under several of the things you listed: taunting an enemy, excessive celebration, and sometimes verbal abuse.

Gloating isn't just being proud of your victory, it's bragging and putting the enemy down. "GGEZ", "git gud", "get rekt", etc.

So you're one of those people who think chatting is suppose to be "good job fellas" "we tried" "you can't win em all"

Bottom Laner1 votes

So you're one of those people who think 9 people care that you won a video game?

Magical Player1 votes

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So you're one of those people who think 9 people care that you won a video game?

Damn straight. Let me explain 4 people care because by me winning they also win 5 care because by me winning they had to lose

So simply put if you care about climbing in ranked, then you care about losing as well. I care win someone else wins, because it means I lost. I guess playing norms all day everyday gets you to believe games don't matter(because they don't in norms) Ranked matters a bit more solely because by being ranked, you actually improve in skill level. Climbing matters, if not to you thats fine. you will never become better than you are now(because you have no motivation to do so) Get ranked, and post your ranking. Then with the same who gives a shit attitude get to the next actual rank(gold-->plat) not a division. I'll believe that you are indeed right and I am wrong if you can do just that

Bottom Laner1 votes

The day I can put "I'm good at only one video game" on a resume and get a job like you can is the day I'd care about getting good at a video game, because clearly from your plat ranking and season 1 icon I am obviously inferior to you in every way and you've succeeded in life by achieving such high honors with such amazing skill at a single video game.

I applaud you sir, and hope that one day I am able to have my head as far up my lower digestive system as you do so that I may experience the world and reach your level of "git gud".

Magical Player1 votes

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The day I can put "I'm good at only one video game" on a resume and get a job like you can is the day I'd care about getting good at a video game, because clearly from your plat ranking and season 1 icon I am obviously inferior to you in every way and you've succeeded in life by achieving such high honors with such amazing skill at a single video game.

I applaud you sir, and hope that one day I am able to have my head as far up my lower digestive system as you do so that I may experience the world and reach your level of "git gud".

IM so confused, clearly you didnt read it.

I'm terrible at this game but I care about climbing and how wins and losses matter. Play ranked with the of I don't give a shit and show us you can climb

Zaryelle2 votes

It's funny when it was a 4v5, and the other team still tries to trashtalk in post game lobby, trying to make it seem like they easily won a 'fair' match purely because of how skilled they are.

Papa Andrei2 votes

I rarely see this. Usually its like "Hey did X afk?" "Ye" "Well shit thats a bummer man, sorry for that"

Zaryelle1 votes

You're lucky then, this happens almost every time I get a 4v5 in ARAM.

Sometimes I'm the one asking 'was x AFK'? or 'sorry about x afk gg' if they played well despite AFK, when the other team had an AFK.. but then they flame more instead of blaming the AFK they'll start saying "we would have lost anyways even if x wasnt afk cause Y was so terrible"

xxxDogmanxxx2 votes

There is absolutely NO legitimate reason for talking to the enemy team. Turn off all chat.

Magearna3 votes

"Good luck, have fun!" "Oh I like your [insert thing here]!" "GG wp all"

Sure you don't have to say those things, but those are legitimate and reasonable reasons to speak in all chat.

HazyCloud72 votes

Because this a large part of the community is toxic & reporting people who flame doesn't result in anything happening more often than not.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Because people like you get so upset over it.

Theres also the fact that they are free to do so without any fear of reports because the automated system doesn't see postgame chat.

Azrael0051 votes

more along the lines that anything not racist/offensive isnt worth shit because racist/offensive shit is a potential lawsuit towards riot because people are not independently responsible for their own actions and words and platforms are responsible for policing their users.

Telephone Booth1 votes

They don't have to, but a lot of people are dicks online and they know it bothers people like you. That's why they do it. Good job confirming that they're getting what they want by doing it. Great. Give them the attention they want.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

They do this to make you feel better about losing. As in, sure you lost the game, but now you get to report them

Synnx71 votes

He played the immune to nerf blind cancer Lee Win and said EZ. I'd perma ban him, IP, HDD, everything.

Zialeska1 votes

You just have to remind yourself that the people raging at your IN GENERAL, not even just post game chat, have incredibly low self esteem and the only way they can feel better is by dragging you down with them. Your basically kicking there butt mentally all over the game even if you lose the game itself. Just smile and move on.

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