would eliminating promos reduce toxicity?

scazzman··2 votes·996 views

one of the big reasons i see people flame. is the issue of being stuck in a game they would have otherwised dodged due to being in promos. imo. promos are mostly arbitrary and don't serve any real purpose other than to frustrate people who get trolled in them

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Kei1432 votes

The percent of games you have with trolls is the same as the promos.

While it is true that you'll be faced against higher MMR opponents during your promos, the chances of getting a troll on a game by game basis is the same.

Just that people remember the troll in promos more cos they feel the promos are more important.

scazzman2 votes

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The percent of games you have with trolls is the same as the promos.

While it is true that you'll be faced against higher MMR opponents during your promos, the chances of getting a troll on a game by game basis is the same.

Just that people remember the troll in promos more cos they feel the promos are more important.

im not just talking about trolls. im talking about how promos create more toxic games because you can't dodge

Qukslice3 votes

You shouldn't be dodging in the first place. Enabling people to dodge even more is just bad. I already have to go through like 3 dodged games just to get a game to actually play.

Kei1432 votes

So other than the "dodging" issue, why do you think trolls appear in the first place?

The "troll" doesn't know that you are in promos. Neither are there that many people that set out to loose on purpose just because they op.gg you and see that you are in promos.

Promos don't cause trolls. Trolls are there already, probably even before accepting the match making queue.

So to answer your question; No, removing promos won't reduce trolls.

scazzman1 votes

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So other than the "dodging" issue, why do you think trolls appear in the first place?

The "troll" doesn't know that you are in promos. Neither are there that many people that set out to loose on purpose just because they op.gg you and see that you are in promos.

Promos don't cause trolls. Trolls are there already, probably even before accepting the match making queue.

So to answer your question; No, removing promos won't reduce trolls.

thats not what im suggesting. but what it WILL reduce is flaming. because it takes away the desperation factor of having to win a particular game as opposed to just winning

bad arcade kitty1 votes

you can freely dodge games in promos, i mean the promos when you begin ranked and at the beginning of each season

google it if you don't trust me

LXII4 votes

Those are provisionals, not promos.

Sukishoo4 votes

Those are placements not Promos. Promos are a series that you have to win 2/3 of in order to move up.

Awkward Couch1 votes

That's what they had in Season 1, an ELO system, I don't think it's any better or worse than what we have currently. I've been getting into competitive Overwatch, and even though you can't lose rank, people still rage, leave, troll etc. just for the fun of it and they don't have promos.

scazzman1 votes

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That's what they had in Season 1, an ELO system, I don't think it's any better or worse than what we have currently. I've been getting into competitive Overwatch, and even though you can't lose rank, people still rage, leave, troll etc. just for the fun of it and they don't have promos.

why does everyone think this post is about trolls

Awkward Couch1 votes

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why does everyone think this post is about trolls

Because if someone is going to dodge, its most likely to be because of trolls. At least in my experience.

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