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just played a game that had legitimate inters

lolipopevelynn··2 votes·325 views

i dont understand the rules of this game. 3 people that wanted to fuck the game over for no real reason o ther than childish idiocy go completely unpunished, but if i am to say ANY thing to those 3 IDIOTS then i am the one to get punished because they report me? i just dont understand it... as a player i am expected to just sit there while these guys take my jungle buffs, take my jg camps, harrass me, and gurantee me a loss? im just expected to sit there and fucking take it while these guys get off scott free, with the absolute WORSE punishment they could possibly get is a fucking 10-25 game chat restriction?

i am so sick of this god damn community, and i am even MORE sick that you guys dont recognized how fucking horrible it is. its going on 3 damn years that the tribunal has been down and in that time frame the community has only gotten worse because people are starting to realize that you dont get punished for inting. videos of a player literally inting in 50+ games and going completely unpunished, not even a damn warning.

I have been saying this since the first day the tribunal went down... it is NOT verbal harassment that fucks over a game, it is the literal 2v8s or 3v7s that fucks over the game because it GURANTEES a loss 100% of the time. verbal harassment you can still mute and carry the game, but when 2-3 players on YOUR OWN TEAM GO OUT OF THERE GOD DAMN WAY TO FUCK YOU OVER then there is nothing you can do except take the loss while they get away with it.

i dont get why fixing the tribunal is not a top priority. the good side of the community KNOWS who is inting and who isnt, not a fucking computer program that is easily bypassed if you know how. (and yes, it is very easy to bypass this shit system by simply not triggering key words/phrases that will trip it in a report.) bring the tribunal back and let actual humans sort out who is intentionally feeding... i dont care if you have to bring the old system from 2012 back, just do it since nothing was wrong with that system to begin with...

10 Comments

Chermorg3 votes

First of all, considering your tone and the way you type in this message, I find it hard to believe you were punished unfairly and incorrectly. If someone is intentionally feeding/trolling, you are more than welcome to call (early) surrender votes at every chance you get. However, you yourself are not permitted to be toxic or stop trying yourself. If you stoop to that level, you are just as bad as the inter/troll. You're ruining the game for everyone else just as much as the troll is.

Second of all: Did you report the troll/inter for intentionally feeding and/or afk/leaving and/or negative attitude? The combination of these reports flags Riot for a manual review - regardless of if one person or multiple report. Your report was examined and if necessary a punishment would've been issued which you would not get a notice about. The Instant Feedback System does not send notifications to players when their reports triggered a manual review and punishment. Thus, the fact that you didn't get a notice means that their punishment was not a simple chat restriction, but likely (if you reported and they were in fact obviously intentionally feeding or trolling) a ban.

While you may be correct that verbal harassment does not alter the balance between winning and losing a game, it sure as hell makes it less fun for the other people in the game. You do not, no matter how angry you are at one or a few other people, have the right to take over the game and utilize chat to be rude or demeaning. I don't care if someone is running it down mid into the enemy team every time they come alive. That does not give you the right to be toxic. Just FYI, statistics show that Tribunal, who could see chat, usually would only give passes to people very very rarely and only in extreme cases of provocation. In your case, tribunal would've recommended punish, as dealing with a troll/feeder is not an excuse.

If you're so sick of being in this community, why are you so mad that you've been shown the door from it for a time period? If you're so sick of dealing with people who just want to have fun and don't want to deal with your toxicity, either go find a online group for trolls or leave.

It is not the community's problem to deal with your toxicity, regardless of how much you think the world revolves around you.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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First of all, considering your tone and the way you type in this message, I find it hard to believe you were punished unfairly and incorrectly. If someone is intentionally feeding/trolling, you are more than welcome to call (early) surrender votes at every chance you get. However, you yourself are not permitted to be toxic or stop trying yourself. If you stoop to that level, you are just as bad as the inter/troll. You're ruining the game for everyone else just as much as the troll is.

Second of all: Did you report the troll/inter for intentionally feeding and/or afk/leaving and/or negative attitude? The combination of these reports flags Riot for a manual review - regardless of if one person or multiple report. Your report was examined and if necessary a punishment would've been issued which you would not get a notice about. The Instant Feedback System does not send notifications to players when their reports triggered a manual review and punishment. Thus, the fact that you didn't get a notice means that their punishment was not a simple chat restriction, but likely (if you reported and they were in fact obviously intentionally feeding or trolling) a ban.

While you may be correct that verbal harassment does not alter the balance between winning and losing a game, it sure as hell makes it less fun for the other people in the game. You do not, no matter how angry you are at one or a few other people, have the right to take over the game and utilize chat to be rude or demeaning. I don't care if someone is running it down mid into the enemy team every time they come alive. That does not give you the right to be toxic. Just FYI, statistics show that Tribunal, who could see chat, usually would only give passes to people very very rarely and only in extreme cases of provocation. In your case, tribunal would've recommended punish, as dealing with a troll/feeder is not an excuse.

If you're so sick of being in this community, why are you so mad that you've been shown the door from it for a time period? If you're so sick of dealing with people who just want to have fun and don't want to deal with your toxicity, either go find a online group for trolls or leave.

It is not the community's problem to deal with your toxicity, regardless of how much you think the world revolves around you.

i actually wasnt punished... the key word you need to look for is "if". as in IF i was to go off on the guys i would have got punished because of the choice words the system would have picked up on and flagged as "negative".

Jo0o1 votes

Don't feed trolls.

Uzi Maki Moto1 votes

Riot would rather ban players they deem "toxic" then to fix the inters and trolls. It is sad but that is the way it is and Riot doesnt even seem to care

Jo0o1 votes

Eh, ease up on the tinfoil rhetoric.

Toxicity is much, much, much easier to assess/demonstrate/prove than inting. It's not a perfect system, but hey, it's not a perfect world.

Uzi Maki Moto1 votes

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Eh, ease up on the tinfoil rhetoric.

Toxicity is much, much, much easier to assess/demonstrate/prove than inting. It's not a perfect system, but hey, it's not a perfect world.

There are litterally people that run it down mid as nunu every game for about 100 games straight going 0-50 0-43 0-48. Yet these people recieve no punishment. But if i say one negative thing to these assholes i get banned.

Jo0o1 votes

The fact that you think the two are related somehow is bizarre to me.

You being a dick in chat and getting banned is cut-and-dry. Easy to detect, easy to punish.

Somebody else getting away with something? Nothing to do with you. They'll get caught eventually.

Kei1431 votes

The tribunal is not a priority cos it has been replaced by the Instant feedback system, where it can punish people faster and more accurately.

The worse punishment people can get when they are toxic (I mild toxicity) is permaban.

The system is not triggered by keywords alone and is actually alot smarter than you think.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

{quoted}

The tribunal is not a priority cos it has been replaced by the Instant feedback system, where it can punish people faster and more accurately.

The worse punishment people can get when they are toxic (I mild toxicity) is permaban.

The system is not triggered by keywords alone and is actually alot smarter than you think.

for one, permaban is only a "punishment" for people who spent alot of money on the game. people who are DEDICATED to being toxic, like shaclone, doesnt give a shit about perm bans because he has 30 smurf accounts...

and no, it really isnt. its only "smart" to the people who doesnt understand how it works. the system wont punish you if you dont say anything wrong, therefore all you have to do is literally indirectly insult people or be passive aggressive rather than just outright being toxic and calling someone a retard.

for example when a 0/20 cait dies, saying "this cait" wont flag you

Kei1431 votes

sounds like you haven't seen enough cases here.

we've seen plenty of passive-aggressive being banned here.

yes you can out smart the system. anyone who understands the system enough can do that. but it's not just avoiding keywords.

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