Just Returned to League.. Found out Lyte is Gone

Meteor Driz··5 votes·611 views

Edit: Qualifications for assessment: Post-Undergrad Neuroscience Researcher

I quit leagues after playing intensely for a few years. Started bronze 3 and ended up plat 4. After being gone this whole season I found out this shocking news: Lyte is no longer working for Riot.... Thank God. Wow.

I certainly hope that Riot can finally move away from the EXTREMELY shady oppressive manipulative social justice that Lyte spearheaded. In case you don't know, Lyte was in charge of things like capturing the accounts of players who were banned/suspended and then holding their accounts ransom until after they had completed a psychological survey which was actually revealed to be a modified version of the Anti-social personality disorder test.

Link: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/10/16/banned-league-of-legends-players-given-creepy-mental-health-surveys/

The explanation of this survey and data collected was never released but it is very scary that a profit company is collecting psychological information on users. Especially since some of the players this was issued to were children and it was done without the consent of any parental figures.

Riot, I believe that you do have good intentions. But you must understand that attempting the mass manipulation of people's minds and behaviors is WRONG for any reason. ESPECIALLY when you are doing in without disclosing it to those involved. Stating "We want to make players behavior better" does not give you the right to employ sly under the table psychological tactics as Lyte prided himself on.

If you want to make this place better for people you first need to stop trying to control them. The toxicity in this game comes from the problems with the gameplay itself not from people. When you look at your community and say "Damn we are so toxic, lets fix these people" really you should go "Why are people more toxic in our game than in other games".

Next, give people the tools to manage their own comfort level such as personalized language filters and improved ignoring systems.

That's all you need to do for us with player behavior. Just focus on the gameplay now, that's what we are all here for.

Looking forward to the future

19 Comments

AraMoOse8 votes

Asking people to be nice is "extremely shady social justice"? If you weren't able to control yourself back when lyte was here, I don't know why you would be now.

Meteor Driz2 votes

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Asking people to be nice is "extremely shady social justice"? If you weren't able to control yourself back when lyte was here, I don't know why you would be now.

There is a big difference between asking people to be nice and covertly attempting to manipulate people to be nice. Remember when he said 98% of league players are never toxic? It was actually later revealed that this number was heavily over-inflated to achieve the illusion of an overwhelming majority of non-toxic player behavior, which would then theoretically influence others to conform to these standard behaviors.

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/psychology/social/asch_conformity.html

I'm not saying they didn't have good intentions, but psychological deception is wrong.

AraMoOse3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Meteor Driz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QAueOiLo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-14T23:00:37.893+0000)

There is a big difference between asking people to be nice and covertly attempting to manipulate people to be nice. Remember when he said 98% of league players are never toxic? It was actually later revealed that this number was heavily over-inflated to achieve the illusion of an overwhelming majority of non-toxic player behavior, which would then theoretically influence others to conform to these standard behaviors.

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/psychology/social/asch_conformity.html

I'm not saying they didn't have good intentions, but psychological deception is wrong.

Revealed by whom?

I very much disagree with your assessment. I think Lyte was doing a fantastic job and his leaving the company is none of my business or yours. I think your "psychological deception" claims and your general attitude reek of toxic passive aggressive twattery. As I said before, if you were having problems behaving when Lyte was around, I think you will be disappointed.

Meteor Driz1 votes

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Revealed by whom?

I very much disagree with your assessment. I think Lyte was doing a fantastic job and his leaving the company is none of my business or yours. I think your "psychological deception" claims and your general attitude reek of toxic passive aggressive twattery. As I said before, if you were having problems behaving when Lyte was around, I think you will be disappointed.

I wasn't having any problems behaving before or now. I just disagree with his methods as someone who studies psychology beyond undergrad

AraMoOse2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Meteor Driz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QAueOiLo,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-15T17:48:02.703+0000)

I wasn't having any problems behaving before or now. I just disagree with his methods as someone who studies psychology beyond undergrad

Revealed by whom?

And I agree with his methods. So I guess it's a tie.

Meteor Driz1 votes

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Revealed by whom?

And I agree with his methods. So I guess it's a tie.

Hehe I never said you were wrong and I was right, this post is just an opinion.

AraMoOse2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Meteor Driz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QAueOiLo,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-15T22:26:51.015+0000)

Hehe I never said you were wrong and I was right, this post is just an opinion.

Well, do you think I'm right?

Totalwanabe2 votes

just ignore aramoose opinion/comments he's a forum troll. He's fishing for escalating argumentation.

Meteor Driz2 votes

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just ignore aramoose opinion/comments he's a forum troll. He's fishing for escalating argumentation.

Lots of people on the forums really suffer from a strong entitled and victimized mentality, which Riot constantly seems to reward. Anyone that has ever worked with children before should know the danger of this though. A reinforced victim mentality will constantly expand to keep obtaining rewards until limitations are defined.

Unfortunately, Riot has shown very little stance on what is unacceptable on the other end of the spectrum (unjustified reporting and feelings of unrealistic sensitivity).

XerShade1 votes

I do what I want, I don't talk in game, anyone who has issue with this can go bug Riot. Key to enjoyment is to not let others dictate who you are.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

Why is it wrong?

Dominick Destine4 votes

The original poster is 100% correct on all points.

EvilDustMan4 votes

It wasn't banned accounts, it was accounts who had their names changed because they were inappropriate. If you are a researcher, you are pretty bad at researching, or you'd have known that by checking your facts instead of relying on hearsay.

Meteor Driz1 votes

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It wasn't banned accounts, it was accounts who had their names changed because they were inappropriate. If you are a researcher, you are pretty bad at researching, or you'd have known that by checking your facts instead of relying on hearsay.

Actually this survey was sent to players who were banned as well :)

EvilDustMan4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Meteor Driz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QAueOiLo,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-07-15T22:24:15.028+0000)

Actually this survey was sent to players who were banned as well :)

Citation needed, I see nothing about it going out to banned players.

Scary Door3 votes

Sounds like the OP is trotting out this summer's latest fashion, the double-layered tinfoil hat. Keeps those CIA guys in the black helicopters from reading your thoughts.

Meteor Driz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QAueOiLo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-15T00:26:09.570+0000)

Sounds like the OP is trotting out this summer's latest fashion, the double-layered tinfoil hat. Keeps those CIA guys in the black helicopters from reading your thoughts.

Actually companies do this all the time, look at advertisements. You don't think they don't engineer their messages to achieve results? The difference is "lets make them buy something" isn't as impactful as "let's make them nice".

Teslyn1 votes

Well seems you know about Riot lyte .. dont understand the down votes you received but he did .. (for the sake of keeping my account) do things that where questionable to people.

funny though.. his personality can be traced to more oppressive or successful people based on what direction you would like to go.

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