Can we STOP the 4 premade abusing of one player?

DoktorKaiser··11 votes·838 views

I played a game which ended few minutes ago, we were dominating and right as we were about to destroy the enemy nexus, all my teammates decided to surrender and after the game mocked me in the lobby. I think I am about to have a heart attack ... Can we do something to stop this kind of abuse??

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Desolas Arterius4 votes

If you come across that type of behavior I really do ask that you report them immediately under the Harassment report and describe what happened with the forced surrender. What they did is not allowed, nor does Riot tolerate such behavior.

There actually was a case exactly like this. Riot banned the players from that premade that would force surrender ranked games even when they were at the enemy nexus. Riot can detect this sort of harassment, so don't be afraid to report them.

I am really sorry you had to go through that. It's not fun nor is it fair to anyone :( Not all premades are rude, but that group was especially heinous, so I really do hope that you reported them so they can no longer force that upon other players D:

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Problem is I got so mad I was really toxic the following game as soon as we started losing, we won eventually but I feel bad and also I am afraid I will get chat banned or worse... These scumbags bring the worst in me :(

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Perhaps take a break if that happens again? I surely hope it doesn't happen! But if it does I recommend taking a break. This way you don't go into the next game toxic or frustrated and take it out on your team.

You wont get punished for having a bad day, but repeated negative behavior can, and will get you in trouble. It's not worth losing your account or privileges over, so I really do hope you try taking breaks and learn to calm yourself before playing the next game should the situation happen again :(

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Dk what happened to my account, I think the MMR for normals dropped massively because few days ago I spent all day playing with my friend who is new to the game (god the skill level of people we got matched with/against is bellow bronze 5) and then I lost 10 Doom Bots in a row and ever since then I have been getting really really bad players (also trolls, int feeders, flamers and worst premades every single game (usually 3-4)) compared to my usual games. Its like they put me in a DynamicQ group, but for normals :S

Desolas Arterius1 votes

Doom bots doesn't change your MMR. Ranked MMR is solely affected by Ranked matches. Normal draft technically has an MMR, but it's not as prominent as ranked.

It is impossible for your MMR to drop if you weren't playing ranked.

Finn Teh Human1 votes

Btw you do realize if they said shit in lobby then you can screen shot and send that into Riot. I've had Riot look into things just because I've sent in screen shots.

Stephenizgod1 votes

perhaps a Solo player was incredibly toxic and trolling in their last game and it made them toxic for your game? Did you ever consider that possibility?

Also you realize someone somewhere is complaining about you being toxic right? You can't blame someone for something you also do, they did not force you to be toxic, you chose to be.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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If you come across that type of behavior I really do ask that you report them immediately under the Harassment report and describe what happened with the forced surrender. What they did is not allowed, nor does Riot tolerate such behavior.

There actually was a case exactly like this. Riot banned the players from that premade that would force surrender ranked games even when they were at the enemy nexus. Riot can detect this sort of harassment, so don't be afraid to report them.

I am really sorry you had to go through that. It's not fun nor is it fair to anyone :( Not all premades are rude, but that group was especially heinous, so I really do hope that you reported them so they can no longer force that upon other players D:

Really? In an unranked? After a full game where, unless he didn't mention it, they didn't flame or troll? They just ff at the last second because there's pretty much no record of it? Because it doesn't count towards anything other than maybe a couple hidden ELO points..? That's "heinous"?

Marshbouy2 votes

Season 7 soloQ

DoktorKaiser1 votes

I havent played ranked in a long time (prob since season 2) since I want to keep my sanity. I want this abusing in normal games to stop, its happening more and more often these days...

RengClaw2 votes

dont play ranked this season wait till next season when solo q is back

Awkward Couch1 votes

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dont play ranked this season wait till next season when solo q is back

Because there wasn't any toxicity the previous 5 seasons....

Troll for Trump6 votes

There's a lot more toxicity with premades around in ranked.

Not the same type of detectable toxicity, but things that the automatic system doesn't punish, It's even worse.

Awkward Couch3 votes

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There's a lot more toxicity with premades around in ranked.

Not the same type of detectable toxicity, but things that the automatic system doesn't punish, It's even worse.

Eh, I haven't noticed any more or less toxicity with premades. Verbal or trolling alike.

franticFurball2 votes

And I have never seen the Aurora Borealis.

Does that mean northern lights don't exist?

Finn Teh Human1 votes

Lol you just complained about the 4 man, not toxic people in general. This dude gives you the solution to your problem and you say that.

Awkward Couch2 votes

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Lol you just complained about the 4 man, not toxic people in general. This dude gives you the solution to your problem and you say that.

I'm not complaining. I'm merely pointing out that having solo/duo queue isn't going to solve anything. There has always been a mob mentality in League, doesn't matter how many people you play with.

Telephone Booth2 votes

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I'm not complaining. I'm merely pointing out that having solo/duo queue isn't going to solve anything. There has always been a mob mentality in League, doesn't matter how many people you play with.

I agree. Doesn't everyone remember all the complaints about ranked when it was solo/duo q?

franticFurball1 votes

I don't remember a single complaint about toxic 4man premades ganging up on solo players in ranked, no.

Do you know why I don't remember any such thing being an issue?

Because it was technically impossible for that to happen.

Awkward Couch1 votes

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I don't remember a single complaint about toxic 4man premades ganging up on solo players in ranked, no.

Do you know why I don't remember any such thing being an issue?

Because it was technically impossible for that to happen.

What I'm saying, is that people will often gang up on one particular role and blame them. If you played in S2-4 then it was often times blaming the jungler or support. Sure it wasn't a 4 man premade, but it was 4 solo players. Shit that's happening in Challenger now (which is solo queue only). Just getting solo/duo queue isn't going to fix anything.

franticFurball1 votes

I'm merely pointing out that having solo/duo queue isn't going to solve anything

You are pointing wrong.

Because solo/duo Q will solve the exact problem you describe.

franticFurball2 votes

No 4man premades being toxic to a single player, no.

Because: There was no system in place that would force soloQ players to fill in for the social inadequacy of toxic morons, who were unable to find a 5th willing to deal with their BS.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Don't play solo. Riot doesn't care about the solo players this season

AraMoOse1 votes

Im afraid you are the architect of your own prison.

HotBandAid1 votes

I agree. I was put into a game with four extremely toxic people who harassed me over killing a single jungle monster, and proceeded to get the entire enemy and ally team to report me, resulting in a permanent ban with no warnings whatsoever.

FurriesAreHot2 votes

thats not how it works..

Telephone Booth1 votes

Dude it wasn't ranked. It's not like... part of your record. You played the whole game so it's not like you didn't have the experience of a full match without trolls. You won. It's not ranked, you know you won, you were about to destroy their nexus. Try to think of it like that man. It's not a big deal.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

I havent played ranked in 4 years (because of extreme toxicity), the normals are my serious game. Point of me playing is winning and nothing else, losing makes me extremely angry if I deserved to win fairly. So 4 people who want to troll 1 player can do that without any punishment just because "it doesnt give you LP, so its useless hurdurr". Well guess what, I have better things to do than waste 20-60 minutes of my life just because 4 jerks decided its fun to ruin my game and in the proccess make me so mad that I had high blood pressure and heartbeat from the rage induced by their actions...

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I havent played ranked in 4 years (because of extreme toxicity), the normals are my serious game. Point of me playing is winning and nothing else, losing makes me extremely angry if I deserved to win fairly. So 4 people who want to troll 1 player can do that without any punishment just because "it doesnt give you LP, so its useless hurdurr". Well guess what, I have better things to do than waste 20-60 minutes of my life just because 4 jerks decided its fun to ruin my game and in the proccess make me so mad that I had high blood pressure and heartbeat from the rage induced by their actions...

Dude you know you won though. You played up until the point that the nexus was about to fall. There was no chance you were gonna lose right? It's not like they surrendered when everyone was at base and it could've gone either way right? I mean maybe I'm wrong but I'm imagining your team was about to take down nexus when they surrendered...yeah you said right as you were about to destroy the enemy nexus. So idk i just don't see the big deal. There's no record of you losing that game other than match history... which who checks that? I love stats.. I play ranked because I like how it records my stats and I can check out how I'm doing every once and a while. You can't even do that with unranked. But hey we all got our priorities and different things we care about.. I guess I can't really say anything. If it upsets you, it upsets you. Just trying to help you think of it differently so you can ease the pain. But you gotta get snotty with your little "hurr durr" mocking me bullshit so fuck you anyways I guess.

Baby Ghoul1 votes

Unless they called you bad names I wouldn't expect to see anything done about it. It really sucks for solo players in normals. If you called them bad names in response to their bullying, then Riot is probably going to punish you.

franticFurball1 votes

Don't worry, Riot is going to solve that problem for us.

No more toxic 4mans in the one and only solo/duoQ :D

Stephenizgod1 votes

Its funny, as a Solo players I rarely had issues with Premades, but as a Premade I ALWAYS have problems of toxicity with at least one of the solo players. Weird how people can have completely different experiences in the same game with the same community.

Anyways there is something you can do mute them in game and leave the end game lobby the moment the game ends. Riot can't really do anything, what do you want them to do? Build a machine that can tell the future and ban people before they do something toxic? Next season Solo/Duo Queue will be back so you won't need to worry about this. I mean the season is almost over, like 15-18 days, so this post is sort of worthless.

FurriesAreHot1 votes

I do that when the random AGREES with it. One game we felt really bad for the enemies because they were obviously new, so we agreed to surrender off pity.

Elisheva1 votes

Can we stop the over exaggerated stereotype that premades abuse the solo player? Most people instantly feel offended when they get paired with a premade, and take every suggestion as a personal attack. Calm yo nips.

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