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You can report for anything.

Barcid··3 votes·414 views

When you use negative attitude or verbal abuse, anything's on the table. No, seriously. Give it a shot.

Gather up a couple friends and go into a game. Pick out a solo player on your team. Doesn't matter who, they can even be with a duo. Just choose a person.

Curse, blame, flame, do whatever. Be silent even. AFK farm top. Doesn't particularly matter. Just don't say anything in all chat.

At the end of the game, with you and your friends, act like the other person/two people were being toxic the entire game and ask the enemy team to report them with you while reporting them for Verbal Abuse or Negative Attitude yourself. Make sure you file the reports before them.

Have fun getting those lovely alerts that you've punished a player. They'll look great on your desktop when you screen-cap them.

Point is: this system is probably the most garbage-y, flawed, ass-backwards and inept behavior system out of all online multiplayer games. Bar none.

9 Comments

Chermorg4 votes

So many things are wrong with this that I don't even know where to start...

One report triggers a review. More do nothing.

Players only very very rarely are punished incorrectly.

Barcid2 votes

Is that really what you believe? That's rather cute.

The only reports reviewed are Intentional Feeding and Cheating. Negative Attitude and Verbal Abuse are only reviewed when considering for a suspension or ban, and even then "reviewed" is loose - only the player themselves are shown and all other chat-logs are ignored.

So say you harass and attack a player all game and they retaliate at all. Only they will be on the chopping block and only their text will be reviewed when it even is. The vast majority of punishments (IE silences and the like) are purely automated, taking no reviews and being handed out after a report quota is met or an event is triggered (IE, a keyword is found in the player's speech).

When you go with Negative Attitude and Verbal Abuse, all you need is volume because Negative Attitude can mean upwards of anything and everything, from movement in-game to chatlogs or using pings incessantly.

The fact you buy into Rito's attempts to mask these flaws while literal proof is shown too often to be excusable is in itself upsetting. Like, how can you be that naive.

FlyingRoboticCow3 votes

You may wish to control your toxicity

Chermorg2 votes

If you harass and attack a player all game, you will be on the chopping block as well. Harassing and attacking is prohibited. In the case you describe, both players would be punished.

There is no report quota or key words. The system operates as an artificial neural network. Systems similar have proven powerful enough to formulate actual paragraphs that, while not containing valid information, sound like something a human would write. It is, therefore, not hard to believe that a trained ANN would be able to determine patterns of behavior instead of patterns of words.

Report volume isn't a thing, and it's actually astounding that you, who seem to have no concept of computer science (or what a neural network is) is trying to claim that it's absurd. Many large companies are using ANNs now to handle multiple functions - Google, Facebook, and more. Riot using the same thing is not absurd.

Barcid1 votes

You realize that that's even worse, right? As that would mean that you could fool the network into believing in a behavior pattern that doesn't exist.

If everybody decided to just start reporting everyone for negative and verbal, you would literally break the system because that means that there's no fail-safe - if it's looking for patterns of "behavior" and yet doesn't check for words, context, or otherwise, the system would then, once again, assume that those reports must hold water even when they don't, and once again would literally mean it is a matter of volume. In fact, you directly contradict yourself with that.

If you're looking for a pattern, what do you need more of? Volume. When you're determining a pattern of behavior, then you need a high volume of data to verify specific behavior patterns, meaning yes, report volume is a thing. It's actually astounding that you, who seem to have no ability to make simple connections, are trying to do so here.

And the difference between Riot's programming and other companies'? The other companies' actually do what they're supposed to.

EvilDustMan4 votes

I mean, yes, that could work, but you are assuming the person isn't going you report you back if you harass them. Nor does number of reports matter.

Reports don't cancel each other out.

zPOOPz2 votes

Okay

Jukuya1 votes

Thats exactly how this system works. I got suspension for 14 days because other players reported me for those 2 reasons but in reality they were mad that i did not group for baron. I asked to explain RIOT. They said i was Upset toward teammate and degrading towards teammates. I asked to explain again. Support used my chat log to show that "Lol way to focus support" is laughing at your teammate and "I am supporting more than anyone else" is like i meant that support is useless. Not a single offensive word was used nor I addressed any messaged towards anyone.

RIOT has broken report system and their support sucks out of finger reasons to justify it. In a long run it will create tons of people feeling treated unfair and will promote bullyes (BTW I was verbally abused during that game multiple times but i ignored).

Firethorn1 votes

You just get banned or something?

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