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Does riot do anything significant about troll farming/refusing to help your team?

CrimsonDawn77·11/29/2016, 12:38:04 AM·2 votes·936 views

EDIT: Everyone seems to be skimming my post without appreciating the situation I describe, and then downvoting/commenting.

I am not talking about split pushing sometimes, or about protecting a tower from a huge wave.

I am talking about consistently refusing to help for MOST OF THE GAME. And farming or slow pushing in situations when it is obviously something that will make the team lose because the enemy is destroying your whole base. The situation I've described is not a different strategy opinion, it's careless and/or troll play.

For some reason whenever there's a troll in my game its almost always a teemo who just goes and troll farms top indefinitely, and doesn't respond to pings at all. I'm not sure if it's always someone trying to troll, or if they truly care about other players so little that they just follow their whims irrespective of everything else that is happening. I had a teemo that was pinged and asked for help all game and only helped out about twice in brief skirmishes; usually when he wasn't really needed. Then the enemy was in our base and taking our towers & inhibs 4v5, and teemo was slow pushing to their outer tower with a small minion wave. His justification was that someone needed to get their tower, as if it was a worthwhile trade. People said stuff like "omg. he's still troll farming. report this teemo man"; but didn't say anything really rude. His response was to cuss us out and inform us that he was going to report us.

Does riot have anything that detects people who refuse to help like this? or is it just if a person gets TONS AND TONS of reports for not helping they might get punished eventually if the tribunal finds it credible?

25 Comments

Marshbouy11/29/2016, 12:40:45 AM1 votes

They did once. Singed

Verxint11/29/2016, 12:45:46 AM1 votes

The thing is - people like that aren't trolling.

"Troll" is not a blanket term for "anyone who plays in a way I don't like". Trolls want a reaction, they want to provoke you into blowing your cap. A troll doesn't passively fail to perform, they actively sabotage performance. They get their enjoyment out of the flaming, rage, and ping spam they induce in people.

What that Teemo was doing is either being a garbage player, which is not against the rules, or he was trying to intentionally lose and make it look like he's just a bad player. Sadly, this is a very difficult situation for a computer to make a decision on. Poe's Law applies here - someone who's truly awful at the game is almost indistinguishable from someone parodying a bad player.

People who aggressively troll in ways that make their intentions clear do get punished by the system. People who actually troll and don't just use "I'm such a troll" as an excuse for being bad will never spend a whole game just split pushing when there is so much more they could do to piss off other people in the game.

KayleDeathAngel11/29/2016, 12:46:25 AM1 votes

Riot does nothing to trolls I was about to make a post myself about this right before I saw yours its getting out of control people intentionally troll / grief and just try to get you to break the rules by getting upset. RIOT DO SOMETHING!

bad arcade kitty11/29/2016, 12:47:25 AM1 votes

split pushing as a top is a legit strategy

ReadyxPlayerxOne11/29/2016, 1:11:55 AM1 votes

Sorry, but there's absolutely nothing that should ever be done about this in a single game. I can't even explain how many games I've been accused of "afk/farming" while my team runs it up mid and I'm stuck to defend against super minions on our nexus towers. Take a real deep, hard look at those games you think someone is doing this shit and I bet 9/10 it's YOU that's out of position. REGARDLESS of whether you're with the rest of the team.

And to the idiot's bringing up the Singed support case please stop. It's not equatable and completely irrelevant.

Escheton11/29/2016, 1:28:48 AM1 votes

All I hear is " I don't understand the strengths and weaknesses of Teemo and want to run it down mid"

SwordOfWar11/29/2016, 1:41:18 AM1 votes

A lot of the time there is a giant wave about to crash into a tower and when I leave the endless standoff at mid tower to go clean it up I get flamed for "afk farming."

Bishasaurus Flex11/29/2016, 2:29:25 AM1 votes

I've just about had it with troll teammates. Just got out of a game where top Darius vs Darius and fed like crazy, tried to come mid and take my lane then proceeded to feed my opponent. The past few games junglers refuse to help, bot and top usually feed, if I roam and get them a kill they just feed again and do the same things. Ive been ganked at level 2 for 3 games straight. I wish I could have a good jungler or decent bot lane. Granted, I could improve on what I did, but Ive seriously been trying to help my team more. It becomes discouraging when they dont want to improve themselves. I just went 3/9 Syndra vs Annie because of how many ganks she had. Whenever I warded river Top or Bot (yes even bot lane came mid) would come from Raptors or our Blue.

Bishasaurus Flex11/29/2016, 2:30:54 AM1 votes

It seems to me Riot just lets trolls go free. But heaven forbid I curse or I get reported x's 4

Martensitic11/29/2016, 6:49:17 AM1 votes

I am talking about consistently refusing to help for MOST OF THE GAME. And farming or slow pushing in situations when it is obviously something that will make the team lose because the enemy is destroying your whole base. The situation I've described is not a different strategy opinion, it's careless and/or troll play.

And what is diving the 2/0 enemy botlane to give a doublekill, over and over again?

What is engaging in chases/duels with no vision or advantage?

What is trying to force baron at lvl 13 with 50% hp, against a team with global ults, that is respawning in 5 seconds?

There is a reason why I stay away from my teams dumb decisions.