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Lockout Afks and Ragequitters from Draft. Upvote to support.

CrimsonDawn77··24 votes·2,080 views

I just had an afk in one game, and a feed and ragequit support in another.

I think draft should be a privilege, not a right. You must be lvl 30 enter. I think people who ruin games for others intentionally, or don't care and go afk/ragequit, should ALSO be locked out of draft, that way players who earn it (by leveling to 30 and playing in a respectful manner) are shielded from ragequitters/afks. Those who are punished, can always play normals. I am talking about ragequitters/afks, genuine disconnects should be treated differently perhaps.

First offense: Warning or immediate 5 day lockout, depending on player history. Second offense: One week lockout from draft, unless player history is VERY clean. Third offense: Two week lockout from draft. Forth offense: One month lockout from draft. Chronic offenders or particularly bad cases (such as ppl who troll and ragequit, or flame extremely and ragequit) should be locked out of draft for Two+ months.

UPVOTE IF YOU SUPPORT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS, OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.

CrimsonDawn77

30 Comments

177A Bleecker St4 votes

oh shit my power goes out i cant play for 5 days? bs?

that happens to enough people they start thinking league is bs stop spending money riot loses money gg

CrimsonDawn771 votes

If u don't afk or ragequit, then it will be your first time in a while, and you won't get locked out. and you can always play normals

177A Bleecker St1 votes

normals is more toxic then ranked

CrimsonDawn771 votes

I'm not sure about that, I have had the opposite experience. Either way though if you ruin games for other people by being afk/ragequitting then you should be with other people who ruin games with toxicity, not with considerate players who deserve to be shielded from that type of stuff.

Radavvadra1 votes

That doesn't work the trolls just smurf and randomly report others so they have more players to play with. Look at GTA online for example cheaters there will use cheats to spawn money on honest players so that they get sent to the cheaters server.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

If trolls smurph they will at least be out of draft for a while as they level up to 30, so there will be less trolls. I believe random reports won't do anything, because the system verifies if people are actually doing what they are reported for or not. I think at worst it will trigger a review by riot. If not that can be fixed I would think.

Also, most people who afk or ragequit, arn't truly trolls, though they may sometimes act like it. Most are people who care about the game and their account, but just aren't willing to sit through a particularly bad game. If they were punished more they might reconsider; riot really does let them off easy. If not, atleast they would be away from the considerate players in draft.

As far as hacking goes, that's an entirely different issue. If it's that much of a problem, riot needs to address it, not back down from improving the gameplay experience.

Radavvadra1 votes

Well that was just an example hacking isn't a major issue in LoL.

IMO trolls shouldn't be allowed in any game mode they should simply be banned, why should new players have to wade through a sea of afkers/ragers/feeders just to get to level 30.

In fact Riot used to ban trolls from ranked but all that did was move all the toxic players to normals.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

trolls should be banned on sight, I agree. I'm talking about people who occasionally ragequit or afk, who ruin games but don't do it that often so they get away with slaps on the wrist at most. They should not be in draft. Plus if the penalties are substantial (ie the lockout), they will probably not afk/ragequit when they return to draft, and they will only be in normals for a limited time. This type of player usually cares about the game and their account, but they just don't care about their teammates; they will probably respond to punishments.

If new players are with toxic players who are locked out of post lvl 30 games, then the mmr system is the problem. If playing normals after lvl 30 becomes like entering a nuclear toxic waste site, its better than having good players in draft get horrid teammates. A good solution to afks/ragequitters who persist is to permaban them so they can't be stuck in normals.

KVbqbFsC8e4 votes

{quoted} I think draft should be a privilege, not a right. You must be lvl 30 enter. I think people who ruin games for others should ALSO be locked out of draft

If we use this logic here, then people who feed would have to be banned from ranked, whether it was intentional or not.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

I was talking about afks/ragequitters. I should have been more specific and said people who ruin games for others intentionally or simply through lack of caring.

TheSingularity1 votes

If this were to be implimented I'd like to see a defend feature for anonymous individuals to use (can't be abused by duo) Example situations: Something unexpected occurs. It happens, it's unavoidable and if a player is observed to have a good history, they ain't just leaving because a game is going shit, have tried to explain the situation to their team mates and haven't recieved a punishment within 3 months. Then they should recieve a half day suspension that will not impact match making, end of season rewards but will amplify punishment for frequent afkers.

Harassment: by this I mean bullying to the extreme (replays can provide evidence if implemented). Say a duo deprives you of cs, tells the enemy where you and ur wards are. One of them is kench and he's spitting you into their team. No one should have to put up with that crap. In this case the enemy could assist the player.

ddos or unexpected net issue. again it happens. You may well have god tier net with no issues. then some twat ddoses you or your isp shuts down for maintenance. This is evident when your ally constantly tried to reconect only to be kicked out as they get in. Or perhaps they lagg so hard that trying to play is worse than afking They haven't bailed, they are trying to make it right but sometimes shit happens.

Frequent offenders will obviously get larger and larger punishments as time goes on. But sometimes there really isn't much that could be done.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

Having a bit of leniency for the first time you afk in a while, while adjusting the amount of leniency according to player history, would do just that. Leavebuster already kinda does this; its just that there need to be a draft lockout that leavebuster activates.

TheSingularity1 votes

Leaverbuster does however the cooldown timer (being months or weeks I can't remember which) seems too long. Where as this gives players a chance to slam down the mercy hammer rather than a report hammer. In my example, let's say I assume you have to leave/afk/dc once every 3 weeks. it's infrequent but enough to slowly escalate you to very long low priority queues (source: friend dced roughly that frequently when sorting out his net over half a year. he's at 30min lpq timers)

But lt Was Me3 votes

3 different drafts maybe?

1 for Ranked

1 for good behavior draft like you wanted

1 for the trolls to go troll each other and hopefully kill themselves off this game with toxicity

CrimsonDawn771 votes

Agreed. I'm and Ahri main and I never get mid and I still play. I can't stand it when ppl troll, or don't care, or ragequit cuz they didn't get their role.

bro0rtega1 votes

If only...

Radavvadra2 votes

Automated punishments are a bad idea and there is already a 5 min lockout for queue dodging. IMO Autofill should be made optional since most queue dodges seem to be people getting roles they either cant or wont play.

Really the game needs stricter punishments for trolls since they are the same kind of player that thinks that they are justified in just AFK'ing when they dont get their way.

LankPants2 votes

First offense: Warning or immediate 5 day lockout, depending on player history. Second offense: One week lockout from draft, unless player history is VERY clean. Third offense: Two week lockout from draft. Forth offense: One month lockout from draft.

I'd personally go way harsher than this.

First offence 1 week ban Second offence 1 month ban Third offence ranked ban for the season

BGH2 votes

In Overwatch if you leave a game in ranked play you get shut out for the ENTIRE SEASON. That's what they should do in ranked as well.

Leanus Crain1 votes

Well you see, theres a reason why this can't work. There are plenty of loopholes others have stated to avoid the ban. +Draft as a whole isn't for level 30s only. If you want a draft for 30s thats called ranked.

Epicanian1 votes

look, I get it. afks suck. I have to afk from time to time, not ever because I ragequit, but because my wifi goes out or I have something on in the real world that I forgot about it. I know it's bad, and I accept my LeaverBuster punishments, but I don't thing we need yet another punishment. Leaving a game or two every month or so for me is just going to happen. Also a 5 day lockout after one afk is EXTREMELY harsh.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

You say you get it, but I think we are viewing the situation from two different perspectives. No one has a right to ruin games for others, and no one should be forced to sit through that because it's a moba. If you might need to afk then don't play league. Play something else. I have played for a year and a half and have probably gone afk 2-3 times. I have not played probably dozens and dozens of games because I don't wanna ruin a game for myself and others. I have had bad luck were I get afks 2-3 games in a row. I also have a busy and unpredictable schedule, meaning that those afks simply ruin my gaming for that entire day or week. And I'm not alone in that type of thing. I am sure we have both heard ranked horror stories.

There should atleast be two modes, one for people like me and others who are considerate, and annother for people who are of the philosophy that it's an online game so it doesn't matter much if you ruin it for others and they should accept it as a fact of life.

I proposed some leniency. If going afk for you is a true anomaly then you wouldn't be locked out of draft. If ur WiFi is an issue more often, then that should be fixed before you play. Furthermore, a lockout of draft for 5 days is not unjust as draft should be a privilege, not a right. If ur locked out, then play normals.

Right now there's many ppl who afk more than a bit, and are in and out of low priority que. They should not be with people who don't do this.

Riot is FAR too lenient.

Epicanian1 votes

actually, I do get it, I have people ruin my games all the time and it sucks. But instead of babyraging about it on boards, I accept that people have lives and shouldnt get locked out of their accounts for it

Epicanian1 votes

unless you're only talking about ranked, in which case I agree there should be a harsh punishment. and, btw, if you afk that many games your account gets permabanned

CrimsonDawn771 votes

Locked out of draft not ur whole account.

Yes, we all need to afk sometimes; it does happen. There should be some small room for leniency.

But there are many, many people who afk semi-frequently, and get punished occasionally, because they prioritize playing when they want, over being sure they wont have to afk. There are sometimes tons of aks, as you said you have experienced; they cannot all be genuine emergencies and or completely unexpected situations.

What we are disagreeing over is whether the person who has the problem that makes them afk should bear the burden of that problem by not playing if they think it might happen, or getting locked out of draft, OR whether riot should be lenient as they are and have 9 random players bear that burden on a frequent basis.

You are not merely accepting that they have lives. Apparently you are accepting their choice to have others bear their burden. But the position I'm taking is somehow childish because it is self-centered?............... Please explain.

Judging by 15 upvotes I'm guessing a lot people side with me, and don't accept others lack of consideration as a mere fact of life that is to be tolerated simply because it happens.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

A quick google search is all it takes to find out how much leavebuster will let you get away with. Provided you don't afk in X games after the game that you afkd in, the penalty will reset. Also playing in low priority que isn't that big of a punishment, and so long as you don't continue to afk the penalties won't escalate to a 2 week or permaban, unless you have a long history of afk.

The system lets people get away with a lot. And it only takes one afk to ruin 30+ mins of 9 ppl.

Atleast shield players who are considerate and take the necessary precautions to make sure they dont have to afk from these people who afk within the confines of the punishment system.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

As someone who prefers to play normal draft, I hated when they sent people from ranked down to normal draft for X wins for toxicity.

This is the same problem.

Some people actually PREFER those game modes. Making them a toxicity island is NOT a solution. Ban those players if you can't otherwise reform them. Seriously, I don't like the whole reform idea anyways - if you're bad enough to actually trigger a punishment you should have been out of this game a long time ago I feel like... I guess I'm too harsh though.

CrimsonDawn771 votes

It is only sending those people to normals for afk. not for trolling and verbal abuse, so it will not be so many people that it will become a toxic nuclear waste dump. Also people who afk will be in low priority que for a while, and might reform, so there is still some protections for people who play normals. If anything then also increase the low priority que punishments. This would protect people who play draft, at a relatively small cost for people who play normals I think. Riot is not gonna go permabanning everyone, so this is a decent, though imperfect, solution.

asciK1 votes

I agree with this to a point..

asciK1 votes

There definitely needs to be a better way to "help" us people that actually wanna play. maybe do something like dota. where they are marked and play with other marked people. All i know is it would be extremely hard to implement something, that would be fair and balanced.

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