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Arammus··6 votes·423 views

(1. sorry for my bad english, its not my first language) ... i love league of legends. in these 6 years that im playing i always loved and enjoyed the game even back then when i was still running into the tower because i was horrible at the game.

but after 6 years i still wonder... WHY CAN I NOT REPORT PEOPLE IN CHAMP SELECT!? after 6 years it still happens that people come in "give me this role i got autofilled, if not i go int". and what can i do about it? nothing! i can either dodge and lose lp + having to wait. or i play the game, most likely lose, waste even more time and lp and be tiltet or give him my role in which he will still manage to fail/get mad over someone dying and then int. and then what? i can report him afterwards but most likely he wasnt toxic enough in chat AND he isnt doing it often enough to be punished. and the part that pisses me off the most is that even if 9 ppl report this guy, NOTHING IS DONE! now dont get me wrong i 100% agree that lets say 8 premades report you (the enemys and your allies just happen to know each other but theres one random) you shouldnt be insta banned for just the fact of 8 reports. but how many times would that happen? if my entire team AND THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM think "wow this dude was such a motherfucking asshole that doesnt deserve to play this game" and all 9 report him MAYBE IT SHOULD TRIGGER A FUCKING MANUAL REVIEW FROM RIOT BECAUSE YOU CAN BE SURE HE IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!

or how about this: premade reports only count as 1. so then worst case you get 4 reports from your 4 man premade team, which counts as 1. and you get lets say 3 more from the enemys. THIS SHOULD ALSO MAYBE TRIGGER A MANUAL REVIEW! because if you really get like 4 or more reports in one game, chances are high that this isnt just some mad kid that thinks you troll because your ignite got a kill that otherwise would have survived, its most likely you being an asshole!

also the report value thing... seriously what does it even mean by "falsely reporting decreases your report value"? i dare to say that no player can ever reach a report value of 0%. so yea your report will always do something if its correct. no matter how many wrong reports you make otherwise. so why do we even have this? there should actually be a thing that tells you for example "buddy your last 50 reports were all wrong, stop being so mad or your reports WILL ACTUALLY BE TOTALLY WORTHLESS FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME!" the worst that can happen is you really get a guy who lets say spams kys and noone of the 8 other players reports him. well how long do you think he can continue that?

i really think by giving players a VISUAL NUMBER on how valuable their last reports were and by giving players that keep falsely reporting some "punishement" this would improve the entire situation. (no ban or so that might scare ppl from reporting, make it something like for the next 20 games, your reports are useless AND you are in a special state where flame gets you banned faster)

while we are at it: make it so the higher your honor level, the more your reports should count BUT also the more you should be sportsmanlike. i saw so many ppl being honor lv 4 or 5 that were passive agressive the entire game always going like "wow gj that was a really good play" when someone literally was 0/8 and died again because the enemys camp him. the higher you are, the faster toxic ppl should be banned. but also the more their reports should count!

riot you do so many things right but i feel totally helpless seriously! and even when i do have some guy who literally tells me that all jews should be burned alive and spams this the entire game I DONT GET A FEEDBACK MESSAGE! I FEEL FUCKING HELPLESS! just give us the damn options. 3 options like

  1. always get a feedback when one of your reports within the last X hours lead to a punishement.
  2. sometimes get feedback
  3. NEVER GIVE FEEDBACK (because there are ppl who dont care if someone got banned or not)

i really do feel totally helpless. and then i come here to the boards to see if the bansystem actually works and im happy to see some randoms i dont even know to be banned cause that tells me the system does still work. THATS NOT THE POINT! i wanna come here to answer questions and ask stuff myself. and not to confirm that the system still works.

i dont wanna feel helpless anymore and i want clear feedback whenever my reports did something! riot please. this is not season 2 where i used to flame people because i thought telling someone his last death was fucking stupid helps. its almost season 8, the slow bad tribunal is gone we got a good system going. but dont get lazy now, you need to adapt and "buff" things.

riot please. make it happen. i love this game but seriously i feel helpless and like my reports are totally useless.

8 Comments

Sarutobi1 votes

I think the main issue with reports in Champion Select is what its going to do. Would you report a person who is going off meta despite it not being a reportable offense? Would you abuse it to dodge a game because your enemy team has a better Team Comp? there are so many ways to abuse a system like this and that is something Riot, nor the community would want. I want to jump into my games and play, not wait for that perfect match. I only have usually on the weekdays to play 1-3 matches. I dont want that wasted on even trying to find a match!

Arammus1 votes

yea i do feel you, i remember when aram was still a custom gamemode. getting into one took hours. but still there has to be something done about it. it is really sooo annoying you are literally helpless when someone threatens to int.

Karunamon1 votes

what its going to do. Would you report a person who is going off meta despite it not being a reportable offense?

Bogus reports are already handled.

Would you abuse it to dodge a game because your enemy team has a better Team Comp?

People already do this on the regular, a reporting system isn't even relevant in that case.

Sarutobi1 votes

Yes bogus reports are already handled, but we are talking about pre game chat/trolling. How exactly would it tell if the report is bogus especially in terms of Troll pick? Like say going TF or Malz Support. To some that might be considered trolling, but in general it is an off meta pick. This is basically saying you are reporting people before they actually do anything wrong and that's IF they do something wrong. Despite what some people think off meta doesn't automatically mean they are trolling.

What I am asking is how will the system tell this report is bogus with nothing to go off of.

While dodging is a problem now, it's only going to get worse with a system like this so why even bother putting something like this that will be abused (not if)?

Karunamon1 votes

How exactly would it tell if the report is bogus especially in terms of Troll pick? Like say going TF or Malz Support.

You couldn't know at that point, so the report just goes in the bit bucket. If you're reporting someone for not playing the flavor of the day, you're reporting for the wrong reason.

What I am asking is how will the system tell this report is bogus with nothing to go off of.

Chat, build vs assigned position. If you're taking Anivia with summoner 11 and summoner 12, and were assigned mid, you're either very new (we can detect that already), or trolling. If you used the words "..or I feed" in the chat box, you are not only trolling, your computer should be remotely set on fire. (Only sort of kidding.)

Sarutobi1 votes

But again that's for obvious cases. How do you know this person isn't taking those because he/she feels like it would work on anivia. You are only considering the most obvious cases and not just people trying to cheat the system or people legitimately trying out off meta and just playing poorly. Remember along with off meta, being bad at the game isn't a reportable option.

But this is all going along with Champ Select reports. You are basically giving people a free dodge for making false claims. That is something I doubt Riot would like!

Karunamon1 votes

There's no such thing as smite outside of jungle (to the point where you shouldn't even be able to pick it if that's not your role), AD Anivia, and so forth.

Perhaps restricting this to ranked is a better idea?

There's off meta, and then there's stupid stuff that just plain can't ever work. I am no advocate for meta slavery, but I wish Riot would make up their mind as if that's where they're going or not. We already have assigned positions (keeping in mind that that jg wasn't always a position, it used to be 2 toplane many seasons ago), we already have primary/secondary roles on champions. We already have people getting banhammered for specious "not communicating" reasons when the actual between-the-lines reason was "didn't play the meta the way the team wanted them to".

If assigned roles and lanes are a thing, people need to be held to that - and it seems like that's the way most people want it. So let's quit being wishy-washy and just enforce it and make everyone's lives better.

If they're not a thing, assigned rules and lanes are at best inconsistent and at worst bait to losing your account. So let's quit being wishy-washy and remove all pretense of enforcing it.

Sarutobi1 votes

I've seen top laners take smite, I'm just saying that it doesn't mean that they are automatically trolling just because of of certain things. It's how they play and how they affect the game at hand. Yes there are stupid stuff that doesn't work, like AP riven, but again that is obvious trolling and not something that needs to go into detail!

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