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my unpopular opinion on riot's report system

scazzman·3/31/2016, 4:08:38 AM·5 votes·884 views

I feel that under the current system. riot actually ENCOURAGES trolling. so long as it's not done through chat. and the person isn't just outright feeding and sets the tone for a VERY dangerous type of griefing. REPORT BAITING. and here is how it encourages it

  • asking for reports, or even just saying "please stop insulting me or i will report you" can get you banned
  • report weight is unfair to players trapped in low elo who are reporting every other game. because it will eventually tick down. *not because theyre falsely reporting. but because there are just that many trolls. if false reports are truly thrown out the window. why does report weight even exist?
  • while false reports in and of themselves wont get you punished they make it harder to get away with "that 1 bad game" because im pretty sure they still tack onto your record. and will trigger your account for review faster if you actually get a "real" report. *players now stand to lose more than just a few games without allchat. with retroactive punishments like losing ranked rewards. or hextech chests. and with the new strike system in place. players who are easily goaded into being toxic. they can actually get permabanned now. which used to be reserved only for people who truly deserved it. such as hardcore trolls. hatespeech, and death threats. now. ANYONE can be permabanned as long as they they get reported enough. or get a string of bad games coming off a ban
  • some players may have mental health issues preventing them from simply "muting and not typing" many of whom use gaming as an escape from real world issues. and report baiters tend to identify and seek out these types of players. because they know they are the ones who are likely to react. many of whom would WELCOME being chat restricted every game if they didnt have to worry about getting actually banned due to a troll. *the players who can't simply ignore are "trapped" in a game with these types of trolls picking up more and more reportable chat logs the longer the game progresses. because they will deny any attempt to surrender. often with a duo. and if the person afks they're breaking the rules anyway and get banned for afk instead of verbal abuse or are forced to eat a queue dodge every time they see it in lobby. and that's IF they start in pregame and dont wait for it to be too late

21 Comments

Daen3/31/2016, 4:29:09 AM7 votes

asking for reports, or even just saying "please stop insulting me or i will report you" can get you banned

Alternatively, you could simply just say "please stop insulting me". It accomplishes the same thing, but without the report threat.

report weight is unfair to players trapped in low elo who are reporting every other game. because it will eventually tick down. *not because theyre falsely reporting. but because there are just that many trolls. if false reports are truly thrown out the window. why does report weight even exist?

Report weight only devalues a player's reports if he/she is consistently falsely reporting. If a player happens to report 9 people in a game, and all 9 of them were then punished, that player's report weight would not fall.

while false reports in and of themselves wont get you punished they make it harder to get away with "that 1 bad game" because im pretty sure they still tack onto your record

[Citation Needed]

ANYONE can be permabanned as long as they they get reported enough.

This is a bit hyperbolic, a player will only be permanently banned if he/she exhibits enough toxicity to warrant the punishment. Being goaded into being toxic is still being toxic regardless of the origin, and it's why it's treated similarly. Saying "go kill yourself" is the same regardless of whether you say it to a normal player or in response to a troll.

some players may have mental health issues preventing them from simply "muting and not typing" many of whom use gaming as an escape from real world issues... many of whom would WELCOME being chat restricted every game if they didnt have to worry about getting actually banned due to a troll.

  1. If a player has mental health issues that are so severe they manifest themselves as ruining other players' experiences, it's up to that player to receive the help he/she needs.

  2. It's possible to unbind keys, so these players can simply unbind their enter key so that they would be functionally chat restricted.

the players who can't simply ignore are "trapped" in a game with these types of trolls

Which players are unable to simply ignore, and is there something Riot could be doing to help that not be the case?

Monkey With Guns3/31/2016, 4:24:44 AM2 votes

I agree with this to an extent. The problem I see is this; to truly have someone punished, a majority of the players would need to report a single person and/or they must consistently receive reports from a diverse group. Also, as far as trolling goes, leave it in normals and it shouldn't be worth the report. The problem I see is DynamicQ allowing for a group of players to completely flame one person on their own team and then only one player maybe receiving a report from the other team, thus allowing them to continue flaming without punishment. As far as the "mental health" thing goes, this is an online game with communication integrated (like many if not all online games today). This just simply cannot be argued because this is an assumed risk by lugging in and signing the agreement every patch. Although there very well may be people like that, they must learn to use the mute button or not play at ALL.

DontTouchMeU HOE3/31/2016, 5:25:14 AM1 votes

I hate people who afk on purpose or accidentally it cost my lp that i earn with hard effort i think riot should make a system where if u have a afk and u lose the game only the one who afked would loose lp cause it not faire u try your best u sweat of the hard tries just to make ur team lead forwards and someone just says hey gank me im on0/2 ok im done bye afk like what the heck rito pls

scazzman3/31/2016, 5:33:11 AM1 votes

or what about giving people a certain amount of "dodge or afk tokens" per week basically. letting people dodge or afk without penalty "except for the loss" but only for 5 or 6 games per week

Linthe3/31/2016, 2:31:28 PM1 votes

Trolls EVERY OTHER GAME?? I dont think so...