The game needs more chat mutes and less bans.

AR URF··3 votes·394 views

Hear me out. My friend got a temp ban for something that I was not there for. Knowing him though he did most likely call other people trash and such, which is punishable. But actions are repeated and the banned players make new accounts and resume their behavior, which affects newer players. So I think that chat mutes should not lead up to being banned. I think being banned should have to do more with throwing the game on purpose because you want it to be over with etc vs just calling people trash. Just have less tolerance to those who have already been chat muted and less and less and less and less and so forth to the point that if someone says "you're trash" muted.

A friend of mine always told me that "it's no the big things that get me but the little things" So like for example not saying hello to someone or giving someone the cold shoulder makes that person hard to be around. Having fun with someone who has a sudden mood swing and cusses at you would be a big thing and is forgivable because we all make mistakes. So a big thing in league would be more like saying you're just a stupid bitch vs spam pinging ? and being like rengar what was that? when you make a mistake. little things are ultimately the most annoying to deal with.

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Telephone Booth4 votes

The problem with constant chat mutes is that you then get players retaliating in other ways. Like you said, what's worse? Flaming, or someone purposely making you lose? Well, permanently muted players will make you lose, instead of simply insulting you, which you can just mute.

AR URF1 votes

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The problem with constant chat mutes is that you then get players retaliating in other ways. Like you said, what's worse? Flaming, or someone purposely making you lose? Well, permanently muted players will make you lose, instead of simply insulting you, which you can just mute.

That's why those that int would be more of a zero tolerance thing. Simply saying trash would just be a chat mute.

Umbral Regent1 votes

Intentional Feeding is already treated as zero-tolerance - once a report for Intentional Feeding has been verified, it's met with a 14-day ban from the gate. The only punishment tier higher than that is a permaban, and there are numerous reasons why they wouldn't resort to that right off the bat for feeding.

Besides, the idea of an infinitely-stacking chat restriction is bad because all it does is disable the toxic player's chat without giving them an opportunity to reform - or a reason to, for that matter. The current punishment ladder (two chat restrictions, temp ban, and permaban) give enough room for players to learn what they're doing is wrong, and is also still harsh enough to rein some of the worse ones in.

If people ignore the little message saying "Your next punishment for any reason will result in a permanent ban", that's on them.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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That's why those that int would be more of a zero tolerance thing. Simply saying trash would just be a chat mute.

Ya but as you probably know, they already have a tough time detecting that sort of thing. I could easily int and not get caught if I was a spiteful little baby. Believe me, I WISH they would ban inters and trolls immediately. Who doesn't? But it's not that easy.

Shaita1 votes

I got a 14 day ban for continuously telling people that flamed me they're worse than me and a lower rank than me. If people can't take that, they shouldn't even be playing the game. Chat mutes are a way better option imo

AR URF1 votes

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I got a 14 day ban for continuously telling people that flamed me they're worse than me and a lower rank than me. If people can't take that, they shouldn't even be playing the game. Chat mutes are a way better option imo

It would be like turst. First time shame on you. Second time Shame on me. Third time and it's unforgivable meaning chat mutes would be easy to get.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I got a 14 day ban for continuously telling people that flamed me they're worse than me and a lower rank than me. If people can't take that, they shouldn't even be playing the game. Chat mutes are a way better option imo

Lol backwards logic. What do you mean if people "can't take that"? You got flamed and couldn't take it, so you flamed back. You're the one who can't take that. If you could take it, you wouldn't have gotten yourself banned. I've been flamed a million times. I never get punished because I have thick skin and can take an insult with little to no fucks given. Aren't you thick skinned, tough guy? Can't you take it? Or do you get upset and risk your account when people flame you? I already know the answer, given that you got yourself a 14 day ban. Insecurity is a bitch. If you know you're better than them, what's the issue? Why try to convince them? Real gangstas don't flex nuts, cuz real gangstas know they got em. (Ghetto boys, anyone??)

Shaita1 votes

nah, cant take it as in ccry about it

Telephone Booth1 votes

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nah, cant take it as in ccry about it

Well I would rather not have a player on my team who is spending his focus trying to convince people that he's a good player. I would much rather them get banned. So it's not a matter of being able to take it. It's a matter of, this is a game, leave your petty ego squabbles out of it, play the damn game and stop arguing with strangers. I have no sympathy that your ego got damaged by some kids online. I'm trying to do what the game is made for; play.

Shaita1 votes

There's a mute button btw, imagine if people got kicked out of games in "real" sports for something like that rofl. Nobody is spending focus trying to convince anyone that they're good. It's simple telling them they're worse than me so stop trash talking. There is no petty ego squabble or arguments.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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There's a mute button btw, imagine if people got kicked out of games in "real" sports for something like that rofl. Nobody is spending focus trying to convince anyone that they're good. It's simple telling them they're worse than me so stop trash talking. There is no petty ego squabble or arguments.

I can imagine that... It's called a technical foul.

Shaita1 votes

Technical fouls don't get you kicked out of the game permanently, the equivalent should be more games chat restricted imo

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Agreed

Mordius1 votes

Plenty of people have brought this up.

The bottom line is Riot doesn't care And neither does the community. (Until they get banned).

Common phrase you'll hear is "You were given multiple chances, you deserve to be banned" ect.

ModPrandine

This topic comes up allot, and the answer is still the same. On the topic of perma-mutes Riot Tantram posted about this a few months ago:

It really breaks down into two categories.

1.) Helping players reform 2.) Shielding others from the behavior, at a cost.

We used to issue chat restrictions that essentially scaled indefinitely.

We were able to determine that after a certain point the penalty no longer helped with reform. The 10-game and 25-game counts for chat restrictions are based on data that they were both light enough, and felt strict enough to encourage people to understand their behavior is unacceptable in game and change it.

We also saw that the players in this 'large restriction' category defaulted to gameplay altering means of harassing their team. It caused an increase in feeding and trolling.

The sample size of this population and time frame is huge. Essentially the time spanning from the introduction of chat restrictions to the introduction of IFS.

So my question for you is, would you rather have more feeders and less negative chat?

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