Got a LeaverBuster

Wild Wes·Dec 18, 2015·2 votes·1,460 views

I recently started having a lot of BSoD and I got a LeaverBuster for that! Why would you punish someone with computer problems? I don't get it.

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SoundChaosDebugDec 18, 201511 votes

If i had more than 1 blue screen of death in a single day I wouldn't even be playing league of legends, maybe your priorities should be solving your pc problem?

Wild WesDec 18, 20152 votes

I bought my PC a year ago... It's a Acer with a quad core and 1 terabyte of RAM. I got a BSoD three days ago, yesterday and today. I don't think I should have to wait 140 minutes because my computers just acting up...

SoundChaosDebugDec 18, 20154 votes

Legit it's not their fault though it's yours, you've had 3 days to service your machine.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

My machine? So you're saying I need to pay to keep playing League or suffer the consequences? My computers acting up. It does that once in a while. I don't have the money to check up my computer! I'm a 14 year old boy and no, this is not America so don't tell me to get a job. League is starting to feel like Clash of Clans; you gotta' pay if you don't want to be raided and start losing everyday...

SoundChaosDebugDec 18, 20156 votes

First of all I said service your machine, I never implied handing money over to people for anything.

So no this is not some "Pay to play" scheme being ran by riot, it's your fault. Just yours because you own the pc you use, what is your operating system?

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

I'm not sure what operating system I've got. "Servicing my machine" requires money I don't have. People won't service my machine for free. What country are you living in?

SoundChaosDebugDec 18, 20153 votes

I used to do IT work, if you stop trying to fight me I might be able to help you solve your own problems.

I installed tons of operating systems and I could probably help you resolve your problem.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

If you don't fix your computer, it may lead to more problems. Computers do act up, but you need to maintain them. Just like a car. You can't just drive it constantly without changing the oil every once in a while. You don't need to be an expert to do this stuff.

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/system-security/fl/patch-tuesday.htm

A patch went out a week ago. If you haven't updated it then that could cause problems.

Deep Terror NamiDec 18, 20155 votes

You don't have a terabyte of RAM lol, you mean hard drive storage. RAM is like 4-16GB on average. But seriously, if you're getting BSoD's you need to figure it out; not just because you're ruining people's matches in LoL, but because you might destroy your computer depending on the issue.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

That was a spelling error, forgive me. In the logic of my previous thread, I'm only a child so you can't blame me. You can have 32 gigabytes of RAM but I only have 8 RAM and yes I meant my hard drive. BSoD's are super annoying as they don't even give you a way to fix it! They say Google this, Google that and you find a page saying "here is a list of the 10,000 reasons why you got a BSoD"!

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

Next time you get a BSoD, it should give you a code with an error message on it. When your computer starts up check out that error and you should be able to get your problem fixed by that.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

Believe me, I've tried. And taking the old threads logic I'm a kid so how am I supposed to fix my computer? My mommy and daddy need to do that.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

All you have to do, is look up the error that the BSoD gives you. Then google how to fix that problem. All you have to do and it's not that hard. And it doesn't cost you a dime.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

Can you blame a person for feeding on your team unintentionally? No. You can't blame me for not being able to complete a task because I am not able to complete it.

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20154 votes

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Can you blame a person for feeding on your team unintentionally? No. You can't blame me for not being able to complete a task because I am not able to complete it.

People aren't blaming you for being unable to fix your computer. They're blaming you for joining games while you know your computer is crashing frequently.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

My computer doesn't crash frequently. The 4th last BSoD I had was many months ago.

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20151 votes

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My computer doesn't crash frequently. The 4th last BSoD I had was many months ago.

3x in one week is frequently. It doesn't matter that you weren't having BSoD issues before. You're having them now. Circumstances have changed. React to them. When you've been healthy for months, but then you cough up something green, do you refuse to take medication on the grounds that you're healthy because you haven't had an infection in months? Your previous months of good health mean nothing, because you are now exhibiting symptoms of poor health.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20155 votes

Well I tried to help. But apparently telling you EXACTLY what to do is to complex for you to understand (without costing you any money keep in mind). I don't expect you to understand everything about your computer, but I do expect is for you to try. Willful ignorance is not a reason, its a shitty excuse.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

Just because you're able to fix things doesn't mean I am able to. You need to understand people can't always do what other people can. If you went to the NBA and started playing you would fail super hard. So would I. We can't do what other people do because we're not trained to do it.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20152 votes

You still don't get it. I'm giving you simple instructions. Do you have a phone? if you do, take a picture next time you get a BSoD. You don't have a phone? That's ok. Just take a pencil and paper and write down the error code you see on the BSoD.

After your computer has reset, open up a web browser of your choosing and type in the error that you had along with "Windows 8 fix".

It's not rocket science, I'm giving you clear, simple instructions. Again I don't expect you to understand everything about your computer. Literally all I'm asking you to do is write down a bunch of numbers on a sheet of paper, it's not playing in the NBA or whatever outlandish analogy that you seem to think you're in. It's writing numbers on a sheet of paper.

Deep Terror NamiDec 18, 20152 votes

You'd be surprised what you can learn if you keep doing your research. Troubleshooting the problem yourself will help you in the future and may save you a lot of time and money. The problem is unlikely to fix itself. Don't let the "10,000 reasons" deter you.

TeemoJenkinsDec 18, 20153 votes

How many times are you going to post about being a victim of leaver buster? You know you're a chronic leaver, but then when it's one legit issue, you want clemency? Nope.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/tEtTydQy-leaverbusters-too-harsh

SoundChaosDebugDec 18, 20152 votes

Small internet world, I am in that thread too!

Wild WesDec 18, 20152 votes

Dude. My I got that removed from my computer because it was stupid. Problem solved. No lock at 9:00. Wasn't my fault it was on there. So now you're coming to me and saying that since I had a problem back then that I've resolved now I deserve to wait 140 minutes?

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20152 votes

Even in that old thread, if you knew your computer locked at 9, don't play a game that will take you past 9. That's your fault.
You know you are having computer issues, you are choosing not to get them fixed, that's also your fault.

Both cases you deserve the leaverbuster, they were both your fault.

Wild WesDec 18, 20152 votes

Oh. So because I don't have enough money to fix my computer I can't play League? Real nice Riot, real nice.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

It's the same with other games.... Not League exclusive. But here are some tips that may help you out.

What version of windows are you running (assuming you still have the ACER comp you had in the previous thread). Windows 10 just released an update.

Do you have all of your drivers up to date?

I've had BSoD from my graphics card not having the correct drivers in, are you updating those?

Have you dusted your computer? Have you sprayed air in the fans to clear that shit out?

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20152 votes

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Oh. So because I don't have enough money to fix my computer I can't play League? Real nice Riot, real nice.

If the lack of funds means your computer is a high risk for crashing, yes. If your car's headlights are broken, you get a warning/ticket when the cops notice you driving at night. If you can't afford to get them fixed, you'll get further punishments, until you realize that you just can't afford to keep driving at night.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

Okay whoa whoa whoa. You're comparing this to a nonfunctional car? THIS? What happens if I play League with my "nonfunctional" computer: my team loses 1 normal game. What happens if I drive without a headlight: DEATH CAN BE INVOLVED! Of course the police are going to give you a warning because DEAAAAAATTHH is WORSE than LOSING a GAME.

TwigglesDec 18, 20151 votes

Let me get this straight. This example is irrelevant because driving without a headlight is more serious than a League afk.

Above this post chain in this same topic, you yourself made an example against someone who was saying that it's your fault for queuing up knowing you have computer issues instead of doing something about the issues first. There, you use the example of being a starving person in a third world country.

As of the time of my post, this post that I'm responding to is about an hour old. The post in which you use the example I'm talking about is ALSO about an hour old. Funny how these types of examples are completely relevant when they favor your point, but otherwise inapplicable.

Fix your computer problems, THEN queue up. Otherwise, you are ruining the match for up to 9 other people just because you can't wait to have a stable system first.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

You're so stupid. Look; Ice Weasel X had brought up the car example. I was stating it was stupid that he was connecting that together. You just insulted me stating I brought up the example when he really did. Read the posts dude. I won't read your comment because I doubt you read mine.

TwigglesDec 18, 20152 votes

Alright. I'm going to show you how you're incorrect by taking each part of your post and SHOWING you. This way, you'll know that I actually read it.

You're so stupid.

Great, mature way to open up a post.

Look; Ice Weasel X had brought up the car example.

I know this... I never said anything contrary to that...

I was stating it was stupid that he was connecting that together.

And I was stating that you used a very similar type of example (the starving child one) despite completely disregarding the broken headlight example.

You just insulted me stating I brought up the example when he really did.

1: I have not insulted you. (Though you have called me stupid for some reason.) 2: I said you brought up the starving child example. I KNOW that Ice Weasel X brought up the headlight example. YOU, however, brought up the starving child example (specifically in your conversation with SmokedAlmonds). What I was saying is that it's funny that the headlight example is pointless, while the starving child example is apparently relevant. Specifically because you're using the starving child example to further your point, while the headlight example is being used against you. You can't decry someone else's argument as pointless and then use a slightly modified version of THAT SAME ARGUMENT to further your own point.

Read the posts dude.

I did, and I'd like to think I proved that here. Did you actually read (and comprehend) mine?

I won't read your comment because I doubt you read mine.

And this is basically the equivalent of jamming your fingers in your ears and shouting "Lalala! I can't hear you!" Again, you aren't making a particularly mature showing here. I've read your posts 12 hours ago, and now I've (probably pointlessly given your attitude so far) responded to this one. Your move.

xVARIANTxDec 18, 20153 votes

Your logic is embarrassing. Let's take another example, if you go outside naked, you'll get arrested. So you need to buy clothes right? Does that mean you have to pay to go outside? To go outside you have to maintain your responsibility to be in decent form. This is just like your responsibility of being able to maintain your presence in the game. Even as a 14 year old kid, you should be a little smarter than this. I really hate having leavers on my team, I don't think Riot is harsh enough on leavers. I think you should have been punished a long time ago. Being completely honest here, I really do not care what the person's issues are. If they can not stay in games for a large large majority of the time, they should not be playing them. The problem here is you are being incredibly selfish. Those games that you leave? What happens to the other four people on your team? They lose because of you. And the other five people on the enemy team? They don't get the challenge they may have wanted. Not because you can't fix your computer issues but because you decided to queue KNOWING that you have computer issues. Not everyone has the same amount of time to play this game as you. You purposely make the decision to join queues knowing that you could be wasting other people's time. That's incredibly inconsiderate and irresponsible. This is not the thinking of a fourteen year old teenager, it is of a child as you called yourself earlier. There are other games you can play where other people don't rely on you being able to maintain your presence in them. Until whatever issues with your computer are solved, you should consider those instead.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

Because you are putting your teammates at a disadvantage by having to start the game 4v5. It's not their fault, it's yours. You can submit a ticket here and they might be able to help you. If you have windows 10 they just released an update about 2 days ago, make sure you keep up on the updates, that can really fuck over your computer.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

It's my fault. I understand that. But it's not something I can control. I don't WANT to get a BSoD, but things happen.

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20151 votes

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It's my fault. I understand that. But it's not something I can control. I don't WANT to get a BSoD, but things happen.

The point everyone is trying to get you to understand is that it doesn't matter what you WANT. It matters that you KNOW it is a recurring issue. You acknowledge that "things happen." Stop playing until you know that the things causing you to get penalties are no longer happening, or choose to continue risking a penalty.

The community as a whole loathes when people ditch games. For the most part, people are not mad when there is a real life emergency. Frequent blue screens are not emergencies. They are recurring problems that you are aware of beforehand. By knowingly starting a game when your computer has a history of crashing, you are intentionally putting your entire team at risk of losing a player prematurely.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

Computers will always, ALWAYS crash. It's the same as how people will always, ALWAYS get hit with cars. Computers aren't reliable and neither are cars. We can't control a computer to do EXACTLY what we want, and neither can we with cars. ANYONE can get the BSoD, and then ANYONE can have the chance of getting it again. It's not my fault for having a CHANCE to get a BSoD, because I have a CHANCE of getting sat on by a hungry giant hamburger at 64:28 YM on sun 3.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

The difference is, when almost everyone else gets the BSoD, they try and fix it. You go onto the boards and just bitch about it. If the engine in my car stalls out, I don't go to a message board and bitch about it, I go out and fix it. IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT FOR NOT FIXING THE PROBLEMS WITH YOUR COMPUTER! You are not punished for having a chance of getting a BSoD, you are punished for not fixing it.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

So in simple, pay to win or face the wrath. This has Clash of Clans written all over it.

Awkward CouchDec 18, 20151 votes

Sigh you still don't get it. You aren't punished for not having a fancy $3000 computer. You are punished because you keep leaving games. You put your teammates in a 4v5, that's not cool. You are punished because you know your equipment isn't working and you refuse to fix it.

TwigglesDec 18, 20153 votes

Playing with a functional computer does not equal pay to win. The fact that you seem to think it does is embarrassing.

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20152 votes

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Computers will always, ALWAYS crash. It's the same as how people will always, ALWAYS get hit with cars. Computers aren't reliable and neither are cars. We can't control a computer to do EXACTLY what we want, and neither can we with cars. ANYONE can get the BSoD, and then ANYONE can have the chance of getting it again. It's not my fault for having a CHANCE to get a BSoD, because I have a CHANCE of getting sat on by a hungry giant hamburger at 64:28 YM on sun 3.

Statistics and common sense say that you are more likely to get a BSoD than I am. You've had 3 in a week. I've had 3 since 2011. You're placing responsibility for problems on the wrong party, very consistently.

From my previous example of broken headlights, a car with broken lights doesn't drive itself. The driver has to choose to drive at night without lights. The driver is at fault.
Your current example of cars is also horribly inaccurate. The vast majority of cars (millions vs less than one thousand; Google itself had less than 30 on the road as of July this year) do not drive themselves. In many places, vehicle crashes are no longer referred to as "accidents," since almost every accident is shown to be the fault of a human doing something wrong. Genuine accidents are the exception, not the norm.
A computer that has problems (which you acknowledged since you also say you can't afford to fix them) doesn't log itself into League of Legends. The player (you) has to choose to enter a game while knowing his computer is prone to crashing. The player is at fault.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

I'm not sure you guys are understanding something. This thread is different from the one I posted previously. Read this: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/tEtTydQy-leaverbusters-too-harsh?comment=00010000

I don't WANT to go AFK. Life happens. I shouldn't be punished for my bad luck, in either case of an enemy team refusing to give up 30/10 or if I've got the BSoD. You guys act like I raged out of all those games.

SmokedAlmondsDec 18, 20151 votes

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I'm not sure you guys are understanding something. This thread is different from the one I posted previously. Read this: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/tEtTydQy-leaverbusters-too-harsh?comment=00010000

I don't WANT to go AFK. Life happens. I shouldn't be punished for my bad luck, in either case of an enemy team refusing to give up 30/10 or if I've got the BSoD. You guys act like I raged out of all those games.

We understand.

It is just that maintaining your computer is your responsibility.

You don't get leaverbuster punishments for leaving one game, you get it for having an a history of leaving too many games.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

I've gotten the BSoD 3 times this week. That means 3 times I've let people down because I don't have the money to fix my computer. I shouldn't have to have a PERFECT computer just because that way I don't rarely leave games.

SmokedAlmondsDec 18, 20151 votes

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I've gotten the BSoD 3 times this week. That means 3 times I've let people down because I don't have the money to fix my computer. I shouldn't have to have a PERFECT computer just because that way I don't rarely leave games.

You know that you have an issue. You let people down by queuing knowing that you have that issue, not for just having the issue. If you can't afford to keep your computer working then you simply can't play until you can afford to fix it.

You don't have to have a perfect computer. Punishments for leaving are not handed out for single games. It is expected that everyone will have occasional issues. You are obviously way beyond that.

This is your responsibility and your inability to do anything about it does not absolve you of it.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

If I were a starving child in some third world country, you could say the same thing about my inability to do anything to solve the problem of me STARVING TO DEATH.

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20151 votes

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If I were a starving child in some third world country, you could say the same thing about my inability to do anything to solve the problem of me STARVING TO DEATH.

If you were starving to death from poverty and famine, you wouldn't be logging into League of Legends and leaving your team in a 4v5 when you die IRL. Starving children typically don't have the resources to play League of Legends.

Wild WesDec 18, 20151 votes

This is not about a starving child playing League. It's about him saying that my inability to fix my computer is my fault. So in his theory, if I was a starving child with the inability to change the fact I'm starving it's MY fault?

Ice Weasel XDec 18, 20152 votes

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This is not about a starving child playing League. It's about him saying that my inability to fix my computer is my fault. So in his theory, if I was a starving child with the inability to change the fact I'm starving it's MY fault?

You're the one who brought up the starving child analogy. It's not the same. The child is not being administratively punished for starving.

Bring your analogy more in line with your situation.

Starving child isn't able to afford food. You say you aren't able to afford to get your computer fixed (which is false, since this can be done for free and people have offered to help).
Starving child dies due to lack of food. Your computer crashes completely (can't run at all) due to lack of maintenance.

That's a more realistic comparison. Want to compare it to administrative punishment?

Starving child isn't able to afford food. You say you aren't able to afford to get your computer fixed.
Starving child steals food. You intentionally start a game of League of Legends while your computer is constantly crashing.
Starving child gets arrested. Depending on the country, he might be beaten, killed, or jailed. His parents may receive the same punishment. You get a blue screen and drop out of the game. LeaverBuster increments your leaver status.
The child chose to break the law to get his food. Justified or not, he committed a crime and was punished. It was willful. He isn't being punished for starving, but for the act of theft.
You choose to continue to join games when you're at risk of crashing. It is willful. You aren't being punished for your computer problems, but for the act of joining games when it's likely you're going to crash.