Why does Korean server ban anyone not from Korea but here in NA we don't? I keep getting paired with Chinese pre-mades who:
A) Don't communicate in English B) Just talk shit in Chinese C) DC every few minutes.
Seriously, what the fuck Riot?
Narvuntien3 votesThey could well be in NA, just speaking Chinese. Capable of speaking English but when they are in a premade with their friends they just speak Chinese because that's what they are comfortable with. They could also be foreign students or other similar people from china with long term residency.
Before the OCE server was started I played on NA with 300 ping.
General Esdeath 1 votesThis person DC'd several times and their friend told me "He'll be back, he just has connections issues because he's playing from China. Give him 1 minute".
alasarcher2 votesIsnt "NA" made from different nationalities, cultures...? It doesnt even have an official language.
hh the thinker2 votesmany people from NA forget that it's not just the USA (not everyone, just a lot of people i've seen so when talking about this sort of thing), and that more than one language is spoken in this server.
General Esdeath 1 votesExcept China isn't part of North America...
hh the thinker3 votesnot china, but when you say they don't speak English, they don't really need to. french is one example that's spoken in north america.
General Esdeath 1 votesThis person DC'd several times and their friend told me "He'll be back, he just has connections issues because he's playing from China. Give him 1 minute".
General Esdeath 1 votesIt's not what nationality they are, it's where they are at the moment. Playing from halfway across the world tends to result in frequent disconnects.
Faie1 votesHow do you know they're located in China?
General Esdeath 1 votesThis person DC'd several times and their friend told me "He'll be back, he just has connections issues because he's playing from China. Give him 1 minute".
Taeseuk1 votesIt's not what nationality they are, it's where they are at the moment. Playing from halfway across the world tends to result in frequent disconnects.
I play from the uk which is good distance and don't get dced that often (unless my net goes down) and just because they speak Chinese doesn't mean they aren't in the na though.
General Esdeath 1 votesThis person DC'd several times and their friend told me "He'll be back, he just has connections issues because he's playing from China. Give him 1 minute".
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesYou can tell OP is racist when he assumes every DC players are Chinese...
General Esdeath 1 votes[deleted]
TrulyBland2 votesDo you speak chinese, or did he tell you that in English? Because if he told you in English, you're kinda contradicting your own story here.
General Esdeath 1 votesThe one guy spoke both, one only spoke Chinese. How am I contradicting? There are 2 people here, one dc's and speaks only Chinese, one speaks in both languages. Did you forget in League we can play in groups?
TrulyBland1 votesSo... basically you admit yourself that in your own example of such a premade, 50% of that premade fulfilled literally zero of the reasons you list for banning all chinese players from the server.
General Esdeath 1 votesDid I say ban Chinese players? I said ban people who don't live in the North American region. If this guy is living in Canada and his friend is playing from China, then he's not getting in any trouble.
TrulyBland1 votesThat's a picture perfect example of confirmation bias. You assume that the guy that spoke english and didn't DC could be from Canada, simply because he doesn't fit your pattern. Have you given any thought to how often do there are people playing in your team that are located outside of NA that speak English and don't d/c that often?
General Esdeath 1 votesNo, I said Canada as an example. You could say Mexico instead. I didn't say "He is" I said "If" as in "Let's imagine for this scenario", because Canada is in North America, China is not. And I can't imagine someone playing from across the world with me who has no ping issues unless the servers are dead center between us.
TrulyBland1 votesThere's ping issues and there's
C) DC every few minutes.
You can have a perfectly stabile connection from outside NA. I used to play on NA back when the EU servers were a mess, I had a high ping, but I never had d/c issues (outside of when I simply lost my entire internet connection). Ping issues are ultimately accounted for by MMR. I mean, what if somebody from outside NA has a way faster reaction than somebody from NA. Are you going to ban the person that objectively takes less time to react to a situation?
General Esdeath 1 votesFirst off, if you're gonna dc every few minutes, you shouldn't play, regardless of location. Secondly, did I say everyone outside NA has bad connection? The chances of it are simply higher, it's not a definite. You're not very good at nitpicking this post.
TrulyBland1 votesOkay, then tell me the chances. Exactly.
Because if you want to ban every player outside NA, you better have exact numbers to know how many people you're screwing over despite them having a good connection.
Because that is the point I'm making. Not that you're claiming everybody outside NA has a bad connection, but that you want to ban everybody outside NA for what might be a miniscule amount of players with bad connection.
General Esdeath 1 votesSo you're saying to ban someone we have to know how many people break that rule...I guess we're not going to ban hackers because that only happens in one out of every million games.
TrulyBland1 votesEven if your arbitrary standards were a rule, the issue is that you are suggesting banning a shit ton of people that don't even break it.
We ban individual hackers because they hack. We don't ban entire groups of players because some of them hack.
General Esdeath 1 votesPretty sure my "rule" would be that people shouldn't be playing in a server they don't live in the region(s) of. Now, how some people not living in NA countries break this rule and some don't is beyond me.
TrulyBland1 votesBecause if you want to ban every player outside NA, you better have exact numbers to know how many people you're screwing over despite them having a good connection.
and your reply:
So you're saying to ban someone we have to know how many people break that rule...
Either you've dodged my question, or you think the rule should be people having a good connection. Make up your fucking mind and then answer the question, instead of zig-zagging between stances.
Icy Hot Shoto1 votesPretty sure my "rule" would be that people shouldn't be playing in a server they don't live in the region(s) of. Now, how some people not living in NA countries break this rule and some don't is beyond me.
With that logic in mind what about people, who LIVE in the states, but go out of country for months? When they leave country they can't take their IP with them, and even if they could their IP would still reflect where they're currently staying. I don't think my friend, who's IN THE MILITARY and stationed over in Korea, would be too happy about being unable to play all because he got deployed.
Before saying anything, keep in mind those in the military get deployed FOR MONTHS, and live on a military base for those months.
MrPharmD2 voteswhen he doesn't read the whole post
Actually your post had not mentioned this. What you meant to say was, "You can tell BeatzBoyFTW is an idiot when he doesn't read every single comment in the post in hopes of getting more information."
Which is just a dumb thing to say.
General Esdeath 1 votesActually I called him an idiot because he read "China" and assumes I think all players who dc are from China. I said I kept getting paired with Chinese players. I've had French, German, and Middle Eastern players too. My first line in the post is
Why does Korean server ban anyone not from Korea but here in NA we don't?
Where here do I say I hate the Chinese or assume all dc's are Chinese people?
MrPharmD2 votesFalse. You called him an idiot because "the player said his friend was from China and OP is an idiot for not reading that". Literally what you said. He also "assumed" that you meant China because you literally said, "these players d/c so stop letting china players play on NA". Again, you NEVER said in your post that their friend said they were from China.
General Esdeath 1 votesI literally said? Actually I said players NOT in NA. And in my first post I don't mention the friend because I'm not trying to single in on ONE game. Notice I said premade"S" as in, this happens multiple times. I'm glad you know how to quote incorrectly.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesSo you're telling me that just because of that ONE game only, you already felt so triggered that you wanted to ban all players not in NA?
Okay, this is a lot dumb & worse than my first comment....
General Esdeath 1 votesA lot more than one, this is just the game where one person, in this case their premade, admits they're from another country. This is something I see happen in multiple games with an NA server, they don't do anything about the players who aren't supposed to be there, and yet Korea always does.
Icy Hot Shoto1 votesDid you know in Canada, which is part of NA, people speak French AND English? Did you know some schools offer language classes such as Chinese, Japanese, Dutch, German, Spanish etc etc? Did you know some people teach themselves a language? Did you know you're being a complete dick?
Answer to all 4: Most likely no considering you started this thread.
Just because someone doesn't speak English doesn't mean they don't live in Canada or the states. If they STATE that they're not in NA doesn't mean they have bad internet. If they're disconnecting? Doesn't mean they have bad internet. I had one game where it started to downpour shortly after a game started and I kept dc'ing every now and then. Guess where I live? Upstate New York. What's New York? A state. Where's a state located? USA. Where's USA located? North America.
General Esdeath 2 votesI know that, did I say they HAVE to speak English? I said they have to live in NA, which China DOES NOT.
Do people not read this post? Do they read 1 line and get so triggered that easily?
Shyvauni1 votesWow you do not know Geography is you think Canada is not on the Continent of north America. Hell most of Mexico is as well (as well as central america)
General Esdeath 1 votesI meant to say China, my mistake, I just woke up, I'll change that right now.
Shyvauni1 votesOn a serious note America game servers -almost- never region lock. This is not just a Riot thing. Alot of it has to do with the game not having a release in some regions but still wishing to draw on that potential playerbase.
General Esdeath 1 votesI know, like I said I see it in several games and so far the only reason I see is because it's a money grab. The other game I played started in Korea and made an NA server, however everything costs more (when comparing the Korean prices translated to US dollars), content comes out slower than it should, we just mimic their changes (Opposed to League where balance is made based on all servers/ELOs) and the security is nonexistent.